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AK3

Am sorry for the delusional SEN fans, but this is the truth, this is a system failure what we witnessed, no trades, no1 holding smokes, no team play, I don't know what Kaplan was cocking since the long break from split 1, man I play Heaven atk side better than them it makes me furious to see SEN attk side on Heaven, so much space given to GenG, Ascent? that map was a Slauter, every player on GenG had the chance to boost their status by getting EZ 3k,4k, not much to say, changes are needed and that was pathetic, imagine not been able to get 7 defensive rounds on Ascent!!!, TenZ got baited so hard on A site, its either JOHNQT utilities wasn't useful or sometimes john himself will throw a stun grenade on his anchor player that was pathetic to watch, Kaplan should have sticked to what actually worked for them before, instead of copying others.

Down vote me or whatever but if you are being realistic and actually have little knowledge about the game you will know that was a shit show by SEN fucking 0 respect to Kaplan and Drewspark if that what they were cocking for this long period, this might be harsh or you might call me a fake SEN fan but its make me anger to see my Team getting farmed like this, I hold accountable for this the coaching staff and the players, and I really hope Rob Morre take a decisive decision to cut players/coaches, and get some1 who can actually cook.

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time to log off brother

#3
Dinero0
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TenZ was an npc both games

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AK3
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shrike- [#2]

time to log off brother

no am not bro, at least am being realistic and criticizing the team not coping hard like your pathetic reasoning for your washed core team (NRG) for been so bad lol

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Zsaber
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I WILL RAGE IF THEY PLAY DEADLOCK AGAIN

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nobody___100
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Am sorry for the delusional SEN fans, but this is the truth, this is a system failure what we witnessed, no trades, no1 holding smokes, no team play, I don't know what Kaplan was cocking since the long break from split 1, man I play Heaven atk side better than them it makes me furious to see SEN attk side on Heaven, so much space given to GenG, Ascent? that map was a Slauter, every player on GenG had the chance to boost their status by getting EZ 3k,4k, not much to say, changes are needed and that was pathetic, imagine not been able to get 7 defensive rounds on Ascent!!!, TenZ got baited so hard on A site, its either JOHNQT utilities wasn't useful or sometimes john himself will throw a stun grenade on his anchor player that was pathetic to watch, Kaplan should have sticked to what actually worked for them before, instead of copying others.

Down vote me or whatever but if you are being realistic and actually have little knowledge about the game you will know that was a shit show by SEN fucking 0 respect to Kaplan and Drewspark if that what they were cocking for this long period, this might be harsh or you might call me a fake SEN fan but its make me anger to see my Team getting farmed like this, I hold accountable for this the coaching staff and the players, and I really hope Rob Morre take a decisive decision to cut players/coaches, and get some1 who can actually cook.

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nobody___100 [#6]

Am sorry for the delusional SEN fans, but this is the truth, this is a system failure what we witnessed, no trades, no1 holding smokes, no team play, I don't know what Kaplan was cocking since the long break from split 1, man I play Heaven atk side better than them it makes me furious to see SEN attk side on Heaven, so much space given to GenG, Ascent? that map was a Slauter, every player on GenG had the chance to boost their status by getting EZ 3k,4k, not much to say, changes are needed and that was pathetic, imagine not been able to get 7 defensive rounds on Ascent!!!, TenZ got baited so hard on A site, its either JOHNQT utilities wasn't useful or sometimes john himself will throw a stun grenade on his anchor player that was pathetic to watch, Kaplan should have sticked to what actually worked for them before, instead of copying others.

Down vote me or whatever but if you are being realistic and actually have little knowledge about the game you will know that was a shit show by SEN fucking 0 respect to Kaplan and Drewspark if that what they were cocking for this long period, this might be harsh or you might call me a fake SEN fan but its make me anger to see my Team getting farmed like this, I hold accountable for this the coaching staff and the players, and I really hope Rob Morre take a decisive decision to cut players/coaches, and get some1 who can actually cook.

couldn't agree more

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Burgru
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I watched the first pistol round and I instantly closed the vod. Disgusting behavior.

#9
Demon1_The_GOAT
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They will fix their shit back to the basics and beat FPX. Trust me.

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Demon1_The_GOAT [#9]

They will fix their shit back to the basics and beat FPX. Trust me.

dude they played like 2023 SEN vs FNC they were looking clueless lmfao,

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AK3 [#10]

dude they played like 2023 SEN vs FNC they were looking clueless lmfao,

They were probably a little nervous.

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Demon1_The_GOAT [#11]

They were probably a little nervous.

DONT bring the nerves man, TenZ attended 6 Lans, sacy Aswell or might be more, these guys should be ok on stage lets be realistic bro no more coping

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they played terrified.

they have very weak mental.

Thats why sacy did fine. he has so much experience he wasn't rattled.

if sacy can go positive then the whole team could EASILY go positive if they played with confidence.

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AK3 [#12]

DONT bring the nerves man, TenZ attended 6 Lans, sacy Aswell or might be more, these guys should be ok on stage lets be realistic bro no more coping

tenz and sacy did the best on the team.....

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team played so scared

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AK3
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LouBag [#13]

they played terrified.

they have very weak mental.

Thats why sacy did fine. he has so much experience he wasn't rattled.

if sacy can go positive then the whole team could EASILY go positive if they played with confidence.

Trust me Sacy was getting exits kills, or lived to 1v2 tried to defuse but when the timer is near ending they peek him and that's why he got a good score in the match they were clueless as a team am sorry to say that but its the truth

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AK3 [#12]

DONT bring the nerves man, TenZ attended 6 Lans, sacy Aswell or might be more, these guys should be ok on stage lets be realistic bro no more coping

Don't worry. They'll beat FPX 2-0 or 2-1. I already see SEN performing again next week.

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LouBag [#14]

tenz and sacy did the best on the team.....

poor TenZ was shooting good but got baited so hard by un useful deadlock abilities on A site, every time he gets in a fair fight he gets 2 while anchoring

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AK3 [#4]

no am not bro, at least am being realistic and criticizing the team not coping hard like your pathetic reasoning for your washed core team (NRG) for been so bad lol

Am sorry for the delusional SEN fans, but this is the truth, this is a system failure what we witnessed, no trades, no1 holding smokes, no team play, I don't know what Kaplan was cocking since the long break from split 1, man I play Heaven atk side better than them it makes me furious to see SEN attk side on Heaven, so much space given to GenG, Ascent? that map was a Slauter, every player on GenG had the chance to boost their status by getting EZ 3k,4k, not much to say, changes are needed and that was pathetic, imagine not been able to get 7 defensive rounds on Ascent!!!, TenZ got baited so hard on A site, its either JOHNQT utilities wasn't useful or sometimes john himself will throw a stun grenade on his anchor player that was pathetic to watch, Kaplan should have sticked to what actually worked for them before, instead of copying others.

Down vote me or whatever but if you are being realistic and actually have little knowledge about the game you will know that was a shit show by SEN fucking 0 respect to Kaplan and Drewspark if that what they were cocking for this long period, this might be harsh or you might call me a fake SEN fan but its make me anger to see my Team getting farmed like this, I hold accountable for this the coaching staff and the players, and I really hope Rob Morre take a decisive decision to cut players/coaches, and get some1 who can actually cook.

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dort [#19]

Am sorry for the delusional SEN fans, but this is the truth, this is a system failure what we witnessed, no trades, no1 holding smokes, no team play, I don't know what Kaplan was cocking since the long break from split 1, man I play Heaven atk side better than them it makes me furious to see SEN attk side on Heaven, so much space given to GenG, Ascent? that map was a Slauter, every player on GenG had the chance to boost their status by getting EZ 3k,4k, not much to say, changes are needed and that was pathetic, imagine not been able to get 7 defensive rounds on Ascent!!!, TenZ got baited so hard on A site, its either JOHNQT utilities wasn't useful or sometimes john himself will throw a stun grenade on his anchor player that was pathetic to watch, Kaplan should have sticked to what actually worked for them before, instead of copying others.

Down vote me or whatever but if you are being realistic and actually have little knowledge about the game you will know that was a shit show by SEN fucking 0 respect to Kaplan and Drewspark if that what they were cocking for this long period, this might be harsh or you might call me a fake SEN fan but its make me anger to see my Team getting farmed like this, I hold accountable for this the coaching staff and the players, and I really hope Rob Morre take a decisive decision to cut players/coaches, and get some1 who can actually cook.

fart

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Zsaber [#5]

I WILL RAGE IF THEY PLAY DEADLOCK AGAIN

ong

#22
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Burgru [#8]

I watched the first pistol round and I instantly closed the vod. Disgusting behavior.

it honestly ruined any desire of watching the game for me

#23
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SEN seem to struggle a lot against teams that have an extremely hard lurk IGL facilitating half of the map on their own. (Boostio and Munchkin).

They also tend to over rotate or easily give up space for the other team to re aggress and end up winning the round with kills or information

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The ascent game was not good to watch. They played very differently from how teams of that comp fight, but even then basics were all wrong. Having your omen (only flash and smokes) hard anchor to get hit by 5 utils + texture is guaranteed death. Even the round where he got a nice 2k was played bad because nothing to help him when he got paranoid, john runs away after netting while texture is top of gen, and when john swings to get the tenz 2k trade, theyre already in.

You cannot have your most valuable retake agent aside from Sova be hard anchor is one of my issues.

Then they played too passively, never pushing mid or b had them stuck until their util gets any info, because that is all they had to rely on. They would try to get tenz or zekken in wine, not for fights but midround info, but that is just too predictable and will get no value if they decide to commit, even the tenz kill on texture was textures fault because he didnt wait for the kayo molly. If they just had zekken or anyone like zelllsis follow up on a drone from sacy to reclear b main and then put aggressive trips instead and get info that no one is here, theyd actually get proper info instead of knowing whats happening 2 seconds before the site hit comes. Example is the round where munchkin gets his ult from B and rotates to A from mid. Sen have 0 info of mid and b main aside from theyre not too aggressive here (but they can be passively holding). This keeps john in A site because he doesnt anticipate the kay o ult, and then when it comes, you get a recon, into a paranoia from geng, and because there was no info of it being A, Tenz didnt smoke A main and the deadlock util didnt work and both get farmed by munchkin.

You cannot forfeit information in a comp with needs you to stop pushes as it happens, because then youll never know where to setup for the push properly.

Lastly, the players were shooting great, but they were never set up for success. I saw this on haven defense too, but zekken is never assisted to be put in an aggressive angle where he can get one and run away, the way geng does for texture. They 3 (maybe 4) man walked mid with no util and texture opping and kept pushing until CT where texture gets a pick and sacy has to drone because he knows there are more. Sen never did that, they gave zekken so much autonomy but couldnt set him up. Even something simple like zekken tiles crunching, walking b with an op, one waying and then getting an aggressive line just never happened.

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WhoseTao [#24]

The ascent game was not good to watch. They played very differently from how teams of that comp fight, but even then basics were all wrong. Having your omen (only flash and smokes) hard anchor to get hit by 5 utils + texture is guaranteed death. Even the round where he got a nice 2k was played bad because nothing to help him when he got paranoid, john runs away after netting while texture is top of gen, and when john swings to get the tenz 2k trade, theyre already in.

You cannot have your most valuable retake agent aside from Sova be hard anchor is one of my issues.

Then they played too passively, never pushing mid or b had them stuck until their util gets any info, because that is all they had to rely on. They would try to get tenz or zekken in wine, not for fights but midround info, but that is just too predictable and will get no value if they decide to commit, even the tenz kill on texture was textures fault because he didnt wait for the kayo molly. If they just had zekken or anyone like zelllsis follow up on a drone from sacy to reclear b main and then put aggressive trips instead and get info that no one is here, theyd actually get proper info instead of knowing whats happening 2 seconds before the site hit comes. Example is the round where munchkin gets his ult from B and rotates to A from mid. Sen have 0 info of mid and b main aside from theyre not too aggressive here (but they can be passively holding). This keeps john in A site because he doesnt anticipate the kay o ult, and then when it comes, you get a recon, into a paranoia from geng, and because there was no info of it being A, Tenz didnt smoke A main and the deadlock util didnt work and both get farmed by munchkin.

You cannot forfeit information in a comp with needs you to stop pushes as it happens, because then youll never know where to setup for the push properly.

Lastly, the players were shooting great, but they were never set up for success. I saw this on haven defense too, but zekken is never assisted to be put in an aggressive angle where he can get one and run away, the way geng does for texture. They 3 (maybe 4) man walked mid with no util and texture opping and kept pushing until CT where texture gets a pick and sacy has to drone because he knows there are more. Sen never did that, they gave zekken so much autonomy but couldnt set him up. Even something simple like zekken tiles crunching, walking b with an op, one waying and then getting an aggressive line just never happened.

agree W analysis bro that's why I called it a system failure, they didn't even got to play the game correctly.

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AK3 [#25]

agree W analysis bro that's why I called it a system failure, they didn't even got to play the game correctly.

they'll do a lot better against FPX. Trust.

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WhoseTao
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AK3 [#25]

agree W analysis bro that's why I called it a system failure, they didn't even got to play the game correctly.

Yea, for their comp, they were fundamentally wrong in their approach. They need to stop worrying about what geng will bring, and start playing their own game. Be more silly, be more open, more fluid, take more risks and they need to prioritize zekken. And they need to switch off from a cypher on Haven because that garage set up is horrible.

The round where texture updrafts over and they essentially crunch C has one of the worst cypher set ups. You cannot use a trip like an alarm bot or turret for just info, you need them to get a pick as theyre entering site, but John in C did not have an angle to get a pick for the tripped guy in garage. Plus, they didnt have anyone push down C and hold for info (many teams will do this to get information), and no one to watch garage from CT (this is normal), which is why when the site hit happens, johns only trip is deep into site so it doesnt stop the flood into site, texture is able to easily wrap around because of his smokes and no one watching garage from CT and because they didnt have an aggressive push into C, they were also worried about a C main player. Essentially, with such a shitty set up, they somehow managed to create a way to ideally get crunched 3 way into C. Its just much better to use a cam to watch garage, and have at least 1 cypher trip for garage or main flood imo.

Back on ascent, I remember the kay o ult round where he farms john and tenz on site, the cypher cam is on the wall facing into a link and not on an angle to get any info on mid. If they had a cam set up on the cat, or maybe market which looked into mid, theyd know about the rotation and would just play retake with everyone instead of anchoring against a kay o ult with no smokes.

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K4ziuHa
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shrike- [#2]

time to log off brother

shr0ke

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K4ziuHa
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WhoseTao [#27]

Yea, for their comp, they were fundamentally wrong in their approach. They need to stop worrying about what geng will bring, and start playing their own game. Be more silly, be more open, more fluid, take more risks and they need to prioritize zekken. And they need to switch off from a cypher on Haven because that garage set up is horrible.

The round where texture updrafts over and they essentially crunch C has one of the worst cypher set ups. You cannot use a trip like an alarm bot or turret for just info, you need them to get a pick as theyre entering site, but John in C did not have an angle to get a pick for the tripped guy in garage. Plus, they didnt have anyone push down C and hold for info (many teams will do this to get information), and no one to watch garage from CT (this is normal), which is why when the site hit happens, johns only trip is deep into site so it doesnt stop the flood into site, texture is able to easily wrap around because of his smokes and no one watching garage from CT and because they didnt have an aggressive push into C, they were also worried about a C main player. Essentially, with such a shitty set up, they somehow managed to create a way to ideally get crunched 3 way into C. Its just much better to use a cam to watch garage, and have at least 1 cypher trip for garage or main flood imo.

Back on ascent, I remember the kay o ult round where he farms john and tenz on site, the cypher cam is on the wall facing into a link and not on an angle to get any info on mid. If they had a cam set up on the cat, or maybe market which looked into mid, theyd know about the rotation and would just play retake with everyone instead of anchoring against a kay o ult with no smokes.

True also I am sorry for the delusional SEN fans, but this is the truth, this is a system failure what we witnessed, no trades, no1 holding smokes, no team play, I don't know what Kaplan was cocking since the long break from split 1, man I play Heaven atk side better than them it makes me furious to see SEN attk side on Heaven, so much space given to GenG, Ascent? that map was a Slauter, every player on GenG had the chance to boost their status by getting EZ 3k,4k, not much to say, changes are needed and that was pathetic, imagine not been able to get 7 defensive rounds on Ascent!!!, TenZ got baited so hard on A site, its either JOHNQT utilities wasn't useful or sometimes john himself will throw a stun grenade on his anchor player that was pathetic to watch, Kaplan should have sticked to what actually worked for them before, instead of copying others. Down vote me or whatever but if you are being realistic and actually have little knowledge about the game you will know that was a shit show by SEN fucking 0 respect to Kaplan and Drewspark if that what they were cocking for this long period, this might be harsh or you might call me a fake SEN fan but its make me anger to see my Team getting farmed like this, I hold accountable for this the coaching staff and the players, and I really hope Rob Morre take a decisive decision to cut players/coaches, and get some1 who can actually cook.

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nobody___100
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K4ziuHa [#28]

shr0ke

illiteracy

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nobody___100 [#30]

illiteracy

fixed 🫡

#32
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bro these people need to get a life outside valorant. Even league players are better than this

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