idc if G2 gets 1st seed or 100T gets 2nd seed. these are just placeholders
LEV 1st seed, G2 2nd seed, 100T 3rd see, SEN 4th seed
groups:
GENG 1, G2 2, TH 3, BLG 4 - GENG and TH qualify
LEV 1, PRX 2, TRACE 3, FUT 4 - PRX and FUT qualify
FNC 1, FPX 2, DRX 3, SEN 4 - FNC and DRX/FPX qualify
EDG 1, VIT 2, 100T 3, TLN 4 - VIT and EDG qualify ?? (100T prob win tho)
Diebs [#2]sen vs fnc would be a banger
FNATIC clear lmfao
even NA teams (100T) are copying FNATIC to win games
Diebs [#2]sen vs fnc would be a banger
yeah for old times sake but the actual match would be a blowout
StutterSt3p [#6]Lmao bro at least try to make it believable
it is:
https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3
Subreezy [#8]bros stuck in 2021 with all 4 emea teams qualifying
2024 Shanghai had all 3 emea teams qualifying to playoffs
are you sleeping?
EMEA also has the most tournaments in which all teams from EMEA qualify to playoffs:
Champions 2021, Copenhagen 2022, Champions 2022, Shanghai 2024
StalwartTiger_35 [#12]most of your posts are based but with a little emea bias, this is just braindead
its possible bro
sentinelmain377 [#7]it is:
https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3
My point exactly, if you're going to bait at least pick better matches to back up ur point. You have TH vs 100T right there and you chose a game with a worse version of LEV.
sentinelmain377 [#3]FNATIC clear lmfao
even NA teams (100T) are copying FNATIC to win games
DUMMY fnc banged them on Sen's map pick what like 13-6.imagine the real thing.one round is a distant memory.
StutterSt3p [#14]My point exactly, if you're going to bait at least pick better matches to back up ur point. You have TH vs 100T right there and you chose a game with a worse version of LEV.
Aspas went +7 in FK:FD and LEV still lost LMAO
Valuenjoyer [#15]DUMMY fnc banged them on Sen's map pick what like 13-6.imagine the real thing.one round is a distant memory.
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[DUMMY FNC] being 100T who copied FNATIC's Haven Comp
sentinelmain377 [#7]it is:
https://www.vlr.gg/348461/fut-esports-vs-leviat-n-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-r3
im kinda curious how strong do you think fnatic are? since they bombed out early last time.
Diebs [#2]sen vs fnc would be a banger
LAST time Sen met fnc their superteam myth burst within an hour.
sentinelmain377 [#16]Aspas went +7 in FK:FD and LEV still lost LMAO
Ay man, they still have Aspas though and now the rest of the team is shooting. Sex with Tex is going crazy now too. FUT is getting cooked icl.
AltonBu02 [#18]im kinda curious how strong do you think fnatic are? since they bombed out early last time.
last time they went out in such a close game to GENG (13-10, 10-13, 11-13)
it prob affected their mental by being in lowers so early
thas why they brought a mental coach this stage lmao: https://www.vlr.gg/player/42534/psych-chek
on top of that, Leo was still feeling sick
they will be much better in champs
sentinelmain377 [#21]last time they went out in such a close game to GENG (13-10, 10-13, 11-13)
it prob affected their mental by being in lowers so earlythas why they brought a mental coach this stage lmao: https://www.vlr.gg/player/42534/psych-chek
on top of that, Leo was still feeling sick
they will be much better in champs
Doesn't matter, any excuse like mental or whatever, it's all part of the game. Doesn't change the fact that they didn't get a single win and placed lower than Lev in Shanghai who you were just clowning. And whatever they did after doesn't matter either, you're missing the point. Using a previous tournament to accurately gauge how a team will perform in the next tournament will cause you to be wrong like 90 percent of the time. Lev and Fnatic's poor performance last tournament have almost nothing to do with how strong they are now. Not to mention they BOTH lost to FUT lol.
sentinelmain377 [#10]2024 Shanghai had all 3 emea teams qualifying to playoffs
are you sleeping?
EMEA also has the most tournaments in which all teams from EMEA qualify to playoffs:
Champions 2021, Copenhagen 2022, Champions 2022, Shanghai 2024
how many china matchup games did EMEA have?
also EMEA has historically had more teams go to events bc riot gave you guys 3 slots masters and 4 slots champs
also NA/Americas had: Berlin 2021, reykjavik 2022, copenhagen 2022, and Madrid 2024
AltonBu02 [#22]Doesn't matter, any excuse like mental or whatever, it's all part of the game. Doesn't change the fact that they didn't get a single win and placed lower than Lev in Shanghai who you were just clowning. And whatever they did after doesn't matter either, you're missing the point. Using a previous tournament to accurately gauge how a team will perform in the next tournament will cause you to be wrong like 90 percent of the time. Lev and Fnatic's poor performance last tournament have almost nothing to do with how strong they are now. Not to mention they BOTH lost to FUT lol.
HE GAVE you a reason and you went "doesn't matter" to those.fnc were scrappy even ok their way to Shanghai every one knew they were on bad shape.They have only lost one map in this run on icebox with derke as iso(major winning factor shitting because of bad health).If shitty fnc lost to "best team in the world" by two rounds then imagine what in form fnc would do.btw PEAK FNC hardly dropped a map.While geng won3-2 to Th with a replacement.
Valuenjoyer [#19]LAST time Sen met fnc their superteam myth burst within an hour.
that fnatic tweet lol
Valuenjoyer [#26]HE GAVE you a reason and you went "doesn't matter" to those.fnc were scrappy even ok their way to Shanghai every one knew they were on bad shape.They have only lost one map in this run on icebox with derke as iso(major winning factor shitting because of bad health).If shitty fnc lost to "best team in the world" by two rounds then imagine what in form fnc would do.btw PEAK FNC hardly dropped a map.While geng won3-2 to Th with a replacement.
When PRX had CGRS as a sub and lost, people were clowning those who said they would've done better if they didn't have a sub and, honestly, rightfully so (even tho I love PRX). In the end, all we have are the results and no amount of reasons can change those results. Nothing can give us a glimpse of what could of happened in an alternate reality where Leo wasn't sick or FNC mental didn't crash. The only "truth" is that they lost and played like shit in that tournament. Same with Lev (although they did a bit better). And now look at both of them. They're both at the top of their regions respectively. Comparing the FUT back then to the Lev or FNC right now doesn't make sense. That's my point.
When I say it doesn't matter. I mean that it doesn't matter to the point I'm trying to make which is that comparing teams from past tournaments to the teams now doesn't make sense. Meta has changed and teams have changed as well, using a comparison between past and present teams to determine how good they are is a dumb thing to do.
The literal worst Lev had ever played was against Fut at Shanghai and it still had two 13-11 maps. The most possible is your group D, if 100T doesn't show up then EDG (who are ramping up again) could upset them and current form Sayf is going to hard diff 100T.
And I love the DRX team, but there is no universe they should get out of any group, I'm sorry. I still trust current form Sen over FPX, but knowing Sentinel's luck they'll face FPX and Life will return to absolute prime solo-stomp EDG form. Like on a real note, no other team faces more life games than Sentinels, so wtf is Life going to do to them.
But I mean who the fuck cares, if Gen.G hold up 75% of their current form they clear every other teams absolute peaks.
AltonBu02 [#29]When PRX had CGRS as a sub and lost, people were clowning those who said they would've done better if they didn't have a sub and, honestly, rightfully so (even tho I love PRX). In the end, all we have are the results and no amount of reasons can change those results. Nothing can give us a glimpse of what could of happened in an alternate reality where Leo wasn't sick or FNC mental didn't crash. The only "truth" is that they lost and played like shit in that tournament. Same with Lev (although they did a bit better). And now look at both of them. They're both at the top of their regions respectively. Comparing the FUT back then to the Lev or FNC right now doesn't make sense. That's my point.
When I say it doesn't matter. I mean that it doesn't matter to the point I'm trying to make which is that comparing teams from past tournaments to the teams now doesn't make sense. Meta has changed and teams have changed as well, using a comparison between past and present teams to determine how good they are is a dumb thing to do.
Well prx lost 3-0 to fnc with a sub.while TH took 2 whole maps from geng.and the last map where they had to change their entire comp cos miniboo was not there with his YORU.played like shit but lost to geng by 2 rounds.again that's the fact.Fnc's worst loses to the best team of the year by 2 rounds while Lev's best prolly gets 2-0ed by geng.again we will see.hopefully good matchups.
Ultia [#25]EMEA Grouped Scenario Prayge:
- FNC, PRX, 100T, BLG | PRX & 100T
- GenG, VIT, Trace, Sen | GenG & Sen
- LEV, FPX, TH, Talon | LEV & FPX
- EDG, G2, DRX, FUT | G2 & DRX
no prx without monyet are on fraud watch tbh
Valuenjoyer [#31]Well prx lost 3-0 to fnc with a sub.while TH took 2 whole maps from geng.and the last map where they had to change their entire comp cos miniboo was not there with his YORU.played like shit but lost to geng by 2 rounds.again that's the fact.Fnc's worst loses to the best team of the year by 2 rounds while Lev's best prolly gets 2-0ed by geng.again we will see.hopefully good matchups.
Yeah, I feel like what we are debating on right now is just semantics and that it's just best to see how the teams perform in Champs. I really want to see some good games and there's honestly a ton of hype surrounding the teams coming into this tournament so I'm really excited. Hope you enjoy the future games bro.
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