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So he just normalised messaging underage girls in sexual context
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reremus [#3]While he didn't say in a sexual context, any normal adult either has friends near his age range or actively avoids younger people because they tend to be more immature and annoying.
i would say a 16 y o is an age range for an 18 year old, i have friends who are 10 year old, and we chat a lot, am i a pedo ?
ArtemisZ083 [#4]i would say a 16 y o is an age range for an 18 year old, i have friends who are 10 year old, and we chat a lot, am i a pedo ?
Surely you don't just admit that right?????? Why are you talking to 10 year olds???
reremus [#5]Surely you don't just admit that right?????? Why are you talking to 10 year olds???
We are friends, thats why, is there something wrong in it?
ArtemisZ083 [#7]We are friends, thats why, is there something wrong in it?
why are you friends with 10 year olds??
reremus [#5]Surely you don't just admit that right?????? Why are you talking to 10 year olds???
see thats wht im talking about
reremus [#9]why are you friends with 10 year olds??
What, how can i answer that, why are we friends with anyone?
thenutoriousPRO [#10]hes not wrong i think he just worded it wrong
nothing wrong with being friends with minors just not sexually
Bro if you're in highschool or college obviously. But if you're in the real world, and have a job and are married. What kind of situations are you putting yourself in to be friends with minors. I get like if it was a 35 year old dad squadding up with 23-year-olds or something but most normal people don't really interact with minors day-to-day in a social manner.
ArtemisZ083 [#12]What, how can i answer that, why are we friends with anyone?
You're actually weird af for that LMFAO. Go make some friends your age lil bro.
reremus [#15]You're actually weird af for that LMFAO. Go make some friends your age lil bro.
Bro im 16 i do have friends my age, i also interact with other kids.
ArtemisZ083 [#16]Bro im 16 i do have friends my age, i also interact with other kids.
You text 8 year olds aint no way bro is drake
reremus [#14]Bro if you're in highschool or college obviously. But if you're in the real world, and have a job and are married. What kind of situations are you putting yourself in to be friends with minors. I get like if it was a 35 year old dad squadding up with 23-year-olds or something but most normal people don't really interact with minors day-to-day in a social manner.
- no one on this site is 35 with kids
- even then i dont think its weird, im friends with people much older
reremus [#15]You're actually weird af for that LMFAO. Go make some friends your age lil bro.
how is that weird? you not being able have a relationship with younger children without fetishizing is weird ASF, find help
EzWinz [#17]You text 8 year olds aint no way bro is drake
I dont text them bruh, i talk to them when im in the park. who will give 8 year olds mobile?
EzWinz [#17]You text 8 year olds aint no way bro is drake
there is nothing wrong with that ur the one whos making it weird
velocity05 [#19]how is that weird? you not being able have a relationship with younger children without fetishizing is weird ASF, find help
So its not strange when a 16 year old hangs out with a 8 year old
kanyefan4238173 [#22]this guy just said he has 10 year old friends at 16
how can you even regularly converse with someone that young, wouldnt it just be mad annoying. he always struck me as mentally lacking tho so maybe thats why
kids r fun to hang out with idk what u mean
EzWinz [#23]So its not strange when a 16 year old hangs out with a 8 year old
????????????? when did i say that, do you have the reading comprehension of a 4 year old
EzWinz [#23]So its not strange when a 16 year old hangs out with a 8 year old
Damn actual porn brained idiot he is, who tf ever said that
velocity05 [#19]how is that weird? you not being able have a relationship with younger children without fetishizing is weird ASF, find help
Again, not sure why you'd want to have a relationship with younger children? Regardless of anything being sexualized, they're just annoying lmfao. I have plenty of friends my age that I have good times with.
ABhi [#26]Damn actual porn brained idiot he is, who tf ever said that
bro cannot stop thinking about children having sex
EzWinz [#23]So its not strange when a 16 year old hangs out with a 8 year old
why do u think hanging out with people means hooking up holy crap get off the hub
thenutoriousPRO [#24]kids r fun to hang out with idk what u mean
maybe in like a babysitting way
regularly texting some 10 year old from the park wouldnt even be enjoyable to 99%+ 16 year olds id imagine, cause the maturity difference is massive
kanyefan4238173 [#22]this guy just said he has 10 year old friends at 16
how can you even regularly converse with someone that young, wouldnt it just be mad annoying. he always struck me as mentally lacking tho so maybe thats why
im not mentally lacking, im a normal kid. Thanks for your concern <3
velocity05 [#28]bro cannot stop thinking about children having sex
genuinely all these ppl who think talking to kids is weird are the actual weirdos
reremus [#27]Again, not sure why you'd want to have a relationship with younger children? Regardless of anything being sexualized, they're just annoying lmfao. I have plenty of friends my age that I have good times with.
sure, me too, my friends have younger brothers, some are babies like 2 years old, some are beginning to talk, some I have grown up my whole life. I carried him around, fed him, now he is 8, is it weird that I consider him my friend? almost like a little brother?
velocity05 [#33]sure, me too, my friends have younger brothers, some are babies like 2 years old, some are beginning to talk, some I have grown up my whole life. I carried him around, fed him, now he is 8, is it weird that I consider him my friend? almost like a little brother?
You're completely changing the topic. I'm talking about interacting with minors you don't know online or irl. Reaching out to them to form "friendships" or whatever you want to call them. You're talking about interacting with your friends brother. Wayyy different.
ArtemisZ083 [#31]im not mentally lacking, im a normal kid. Thanks for your concern <3
these people dont know how the world works, they are stuck in their vlr bubble, only talking to 1 age group their entire lives, cant talk to kids without feeling weird, let them be
velocity05 [#35]these people dont know how the world works, they are stuck in their vlr bubble, only talking to 1 age group their entire lives, cant talk to kids without feeling weird, let them be
exactly i talk to people younger, same age and much older
if u only talk to your age group u are missing so many possible connections
reremus [#34]You're completely changing the topic. I'm talking about interacting with minors you don't know online or irl. Reaching out to them to form "friendships" or whatever you want to call them. You're talking about interacting with your friends brother. Wayyy different.
you said they are annoying, I am showing a circumstance where they are not, you need to think, not hyperfocus on one point, get off vlr and go make some friends
reremus [#34]You're completely changing the topic. I'm talking about interacting with minors you don't know online or irl. Reaching out to them to form "friendships" or whatever you want to call them. You're talking about interacting with your friends brother. Wayyy different.
how is that different u are still friends with someone much younger why does it matter how u meet
velocity05 [#37]you said they are annoying, I am showing a circumstance where they are not, you need to think, not hyperfocus on one point, get off vlr and go make some friends
because you're interacting with them in a supervisory/guardian way. You literally listed those examples of you feeding him. But I'm done talking about this with weirdos like you. I have plenty of friends I'm happy with. I suggest spending some time with people your age, maybe your brain will mirror their maturity instead of the kids you hang out with
ArtemisZ083 [#2]I didnt say in sexual content i clearly wrote even messaging them... stop manipulating facts
my friend you were talking about a alledged groomer
reremus [#40]because you're interacting with them in a supervisory/guardian way. You literally listed those examples of you feeding him. But I'm done talking about this with weirdos like you. I have plenty of friends I'm happy with. I suggest spending some time with people your age, maybe your brain will mirror their maturity instead of the kids you hang out with
oop, strawman argument, plus not taking the time to understand the other persons position, but you probably scroll through 12 hours of brain rot a day so I imagine your intuition to not be very strong
reremus [#40]because you're interacting with them in a supervisory/guardian way. You literally listed those examples of you feeding him. But I'm done talking about this with weirdos like you. I have plenty of friends I'm happy with. I suggest spending some time with people your age, maybe your brain will mirror their maturity instead of the kids you hang out with
idk whats going on here but where did velocity state he does not have friends of his age that he is not happy with? you talk about maturity when you personally attack someone who's setting up a proper argument
velocity05 [#42]oop, strawman argument, plus not taking the time to understand the other persons position, but you probably scroll through 12 hours of brain rot a day so I imagine your intuition to not be very strong
Strawman fallacy this, oop that, you need to spend some time outside twitter threads. I'm not sure how you're misinterpreting what I'm saying so I'll say it in the most clear terms.
I have stated in multiple threads that interacting with children in a social manner is weird behavior. I am saying this as a 22 year old so maybe its just weirder to me because I may be older than you. For example, if I was in a game of Valorant and there was a 13 year old on my team and I decided to add them afterwards, that is plain weird. I am actively seeking that relationship out. It isn't weird because it's sexual, its weird because my maturity level is different and me interacting with that child would be exhausting/annoying so why would I do that? What level of friendship would we have?
You came back to me with an example of you interacting with someone you're close enough to call "little brother." Feeding him, carrying him. While I don't have siblings, I grew up with my cousins who are way younger than me. For example, they're all in middle school/high school. They're older than your friends brother but I have similar experiences. I take them to practices, am there when they need advice, I'll play Fifa with one of them if he wants to etc... These are my duties/roles as the "older brother" figure. I didn't ask for it, but it is my responsibility.
These are two different scenarios yet you're putting them together as if some stranger on the internet was the same as your cousin/brother. I'm just not sure what you're arguing here? Like what are you pressed about? That I don't hang out with underage children? If you want to have a good conversation, then go ahead. But if you're just going to act like you're getting impressions on a tweet, I'm done here.
ArtemisZ083 [#4]i would say a 16 y o is an age range for an 18 year old, i have friends who are 10 year old, and we chat a lot, am i a pedo ?
kanyefan4238173 [#22]this guy just said he has 10 year old friends at 16
how can you even regularly converse with someone that young, wouldnt it just be mad annoying. he always struck me as mentally lacking tho so maybe thats why
it’s not weird lmfao
i’m chill w my friends younger siblings and text them from time to time
they’re pretty immature but it’s not weird at all
ArtemisZ083 [#46]Is it weird?
i mean, the context of the discussion was about fcked up shit, and you saying stuff like this will surely bring a huge ass question mark and depending on country, 16 is NOT a "good" "range" for 18. 16 is underaged. UNDERAGED. wake up man. and why do u even bring up the fact that you have 10 year old friends. 10?????
DeluluGavin [#48]i mean, the context of the discussion was about fcked up shit, and you saying stuff like this will surely bring a huge ass question mark and depending on country, 16 is NOT a "good" "range" for 18. 16 is underaged. UNDERAGED. wake up man. and why do u even bring up the fact that you have 10 year old friends. 10?????
well said
DeluluGavin [#48]i mean, the context of the discussion was about fcked up shit, and you saying stuff like this will surely bring a huge ass question mark and depending on country, 16 is NOT a "good" "range" for 18. 16 is underaged. UNDERAGED. wake up man. and why do u even bring up the fact that you have 10 year old friends. 10?????
I was just making a point that talking to people smaller than you isnt weird
reremus [#44]Strawman fallacy this, oop that, you need to spend some time outside twitter threads. I'm not sure how you're misinterpreting what I'm saying so I'll say it in the most clear terms.
I have stated in multiple threads that interacting with children in a social manner is weird behavior. I am saying this as a 22 year old so maybe its just weirder to me because I may be older than you. For example, if I was in a game of Valorant and there was a 13 year old on my team and I decided to add them afterwards, that is plain weird. I am actively seeking that relationship out. It isn't weird because it's sexual, its weird because my maturity level is different and me interacting with that child would be exhausting/annoying so why would I do that? What level of friendship would we have?
You came back to me with an example of you interacting with someone you're close enough to call "little brother." Feeding him, carrying him. While I don't have siblings, I grew up with my cousins who are way younger than me. For example, they're all in middle school/high school. They're older than your friends brother but I have similar experiences. I take them to practices, am there when they need advice, I'll play Fifa with one of them if he wants to etc... These are my duties/roles as the "older brother" figure. I didn't ask for it, but it is my responsibility.
These are two different scenarios yet you're putting them together as if some stranger on the internet was the same as your cousin/brother. I'm just not sure what you're arguing here? Like what are you pressed about? That I don't hang out with underage children? If you want to have a good conversation, then go ahead. But if you're just going to act like you're getting impressions on a tweet, I'm done here.
lmaoo "good conversation" stop with this holier-than-thou attitude. you literally told me to go make friends my own age as if you know everything about. then you go on to ramble with paragraphs and you have the audacity to tell other people to get jobs and make friends when you are spending time arguing on vlr.gg. your 22 yet attacking artemis who is 16 for talking to 10 year olds, where is the problem in that? If you watch porn and are a sex addict, i can see where the problem would lie...
ArtemisZ083 [#50]I was just making a point that talking to people smaller than you isnt weird
obviously failed to make a point cus that shit backfired kinda hard
nobody___100 [#47]it’s not weird lmfao
i’m chill w my friends younger siblings and text them from time to time
they’re pretty immature but it’s not weird at all
i dont mean like its a pedophilic or groomer thing i just dont understand how someone can regularly talk to someone that young, what is there to even talk about.
your case is very different, you occasionally talk to a younger family friend
ct_fd_str [#52]obviously failed to make a point cus that shit backfired kinda hard
I dont really care if it backfired, i dont mind talking to people younger than me, if they need my help.
ArtemisZ083 [#54]I dont really care if it backfired, i dont mind talking to people younger than me, if they need my help.
dude ure all making this up right
"if they need my help"
if u stated this in #4, all this wouldnt have happend
ArtemisZ083 [#50]I was just making a point that talking to people smaller than you isnt weird
16 y o is an age range for an 18 year old
firstly, this is weird asf.
secondly, constantly chatting a 10 year old privately online. Read that again. Shit is weird. PLUS, little lads who are really young can be very easily manipulated in terms of their thoughts and shits, basically very naive and their ability to stand by their opinion is weak. Men's brain don't fully develop until 25, imagine how naive 16 year olds are but you are here talking about 10 year olds. idk how old you are but from wtv you said from that previous thread too, its super fcking weird
velocity05 [#51]lmaoo "good conversation" stop with this holier-than-thou attitude. you literally told me to go make friends my own age as if you know everything about. then you go on to ramble with paragraphs and you have the audacity to tell other people to get jobs and make friends when you are spending time arguing on vlr.gg. your 22 yet attacking artemis who is 16 for talking to 10 year olds, where is the problem in that? If you watch porn and are a sex addict, i can see where the problem would lie...
If you notice, after I learned he was 16, I stopped responding. There's no point to it. I'm also at work and getting paid to respond to you at this very moment. And yet you didn't touch on a single thing I said. It's ok though. I assumed you wouldn't because you can't. Hell I'm even proud of you for not saying Allat and actually writing a paragraph out, even if its filled with garbage.
reremus [#57]If you notice, after I learned he was 16, I stopped responding. There's no point to it. I'm also at work and getting paid to respond to you at this very moment. And yet you didn't touch on a single thing I said. It's ok though. I assumed you wouldn't because you can't. Hell I'm even proud of you for not saying Allat and actually writing a paragraph out, even if its filled with garbage.
No, I am not constantly monitoring your vlr activities, my apologies, my dearest. And I could reply to your message (that being your "analogy" is nowhere near what artemis was saying at what people are accusing him of), but I really have better things to do than argue with an arrogant 22 year old.
velocity05 [#58]No, I am not constantly monitoring your vlr activities, my apologies, my dearest. And I could reply to your message (that being your "analogy" is nowhere near what artemis was saying at what people are accusing him of), but I really have better things to do than argue with an arrogant 22 year old.
My entire point across this whole thread and other threads was that having a relationship with a child online, especially when there is a 5-10 year age gap and you don't know them is weird. You were able to boil that down using your smooth brain to "if you can't have a relationship with any child, you're a freak." I'm not being arrogant, you're just being stupid.
reremus [#59]My entire point across this whole thread and other threads was that having a relationship with a child online, especially when there is a 5-10 year age gap and you don't know them is weird. You were able to boil that down using your smooth brain to "if you can't have a relationship with any child, you're a freak." I'm not being arrogant, you're just being stupid.
so you are 22,
you cant talk to 17 year olds online without it being weird?
thats interesting man, hope you can find some help
velocity05 [#60]so you are 22,
you cant talk to 17 year olds online without it being weird?
thats interesting man, hope you can find some help
You're twisting my words again. I've probably interacted with 17 years olds here while talking about valorant, probably in my comp games and more places. The difference is, I don't add them as friends or ask for their discords etc. I don't have a personal relationship with them. I don't know why keep trying to condense my argument of "actively seeking and having a close, 1:1 relationship with a minor you don't know is bad" to "interacting with all minors is bad"
reremus [#61]You're twisting my words again. I've probably interacted with 17 years olds here while talking about valorant, probably in my comp games and more places. The difference is, I don't add them as friends or ask for their discords etc. I don't have a personal relationship with them. I don't know why keep trying to condense my argument of "actively seeking and having a close, 1:1 relationship with a minor you don't know is bad" to "interacting with all minors is bad"
so if you meet two guys on valorant, one 18, another 17.8 years old, your gonna miss out on a friendship just cause he is .2 years off legal age. how come?
kanyefan4238173 [#30]maybe in like a babysitting way
regularly texting some 10 year old from the park wouldnt even be enjoyable to 99%+ 16 year olds id imagine, cause the maturity difference is massive
Did i say regularly texting, children in India do not have mobile phone at the age of 8, i got mine last year
ArtemisZ083 [#63]Did i say regularly texting, children in India do not have mobile phone at the age of 8, i got mine last year
okay you said "chat a lot" i assumed texting
velocity05 [#62]so if you meet two guys on valorant, one 18, another 17.8 years old, your gonna miss out on a friendship just cause he is .2 years off legal age. how come?
Haha dude stop trying to put words in my mouth. You called me out for a strawman and you've been doing it with almost every reply. If you've actually been reading and comprehending what I'm saying, I've been talking about large age gaps. Like a 22 year old talking with a 13 year old. I'd say a 2 year age gap is a good rule of thumb for minors. 16-18 / 14-16 etc.
And to answer the specific question you asked. I wouldn't add either of them, not that it would be weird, I just don't add a lot of people. I just play with friends I know. That's a personal thing.
ArtemisZ083 [#31]im not mentally lacking, im a normal kid. Thanks for your concern <3
defending psion is not normal at all buddy
ct_fd_str [#67]defending psion is not normal at all buddy
Defending and trying to know the whole story before judging are different
ArtemisZ083 [#68]Defending and trying to know the whole story before judging are different
cmon man you dont need all the details to know that Psion is a pedophile just accept the fact
ct_fd_str [#70]cmon man you dont need all the details to know that Psion is a pedophile just accept the fact
I wont till i know the whole story... Why do i have to believe something without proof?
ArtemisZ083 [#73]I wont till i know the whole story... Why do i have to believe something without proof?
the "truth", "the whole story" or whatever you want to call it, had been stated many times before
i dont really know what youre trying to do
ArtemisZ083 [#74]Im sorry btw, i was kinda rude to you at the start
Listen buddy, I really do understand your whole crusade. In fact, it's somewhat admirable that you didn't change your opinion once or caved into the mob mentality. We might not agree on this. but you don't need to be sorry, you're just standing up for what you believe is right. I was going at your throat too, didn't know you were a youngin. Sorry about that!
ct_fd_str [#75]the "truth", "the whole story" or whatever you want to call it, had been stated many times before
i dont really know what youre trying to do
Bro can we stop? My whole motive was to stop psion hate, which has now stopped
reremus [#76]Listen buddy, I really do understand your whole crusade. In fact, it's somewhat admirable that you didn't change your opinion once or caved into the mob mentality. We might not agree on this. but you don't need to be sorry, you're just standing up for what you believe is right. I was going at your throat too, didn't know you were a youngin. Sorry about that!
Its okay man, thank you <3 I hope we can be friends in the future
jeMEGASUS [#79]"in sexual context"
when did he ever mention that?
yeah mb i messed up a bit
worded it wrong
but you need to really understand what had happend before
ct_fd_str [#80]yeah mb i messed up a bit
worded it wrong
but you need to really understand what had happend before
np man
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