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so if Heretics or fut go 0-2 KC qualifies???

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Congo1

so is the only way for KC not to make it for FNC to not make top 3?

Like literally the only way???

Please tell me theres another guys

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Basically Vitality and Navi need to finish top 3

Other than that it’s just clear as day

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Dybala21 [#2]

Basically Vitality and Navi need to finish top 3

Other than that it’s just clear as day

vitality is playing navi in an elimination match bro

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Nah that's the only way

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Congo1 [#3]

vitality is playing navi in an elimination match bro

navi is the worse team left in playoffs

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kc can’t make it if th/fut/fnc drop out

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Mortadelo [#5]

navi is the worse team left in playoffs

he phrased it like both need to make top 3. thats my ppoint

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-Artorias
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idk kc but if fnatic wins his match against kc , fut makes champions

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Congo1
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Mortadelo [#4]

Nah that's the only way

garbage dumbass system. Only giving points for win is the dumbest fucking shit ever. dumbfuck riot

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Congo1 [#9]

garbage dumbass system. Only giving points for win is the dumbest fucking shit ever. dumbfuck riot

Who do you want to qualify

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Dybala21
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Congo1 [#7]

he phrased it like both need to make top 3. thats my ppoint

I basically answered your question no?
If neither of Vitality and Navi finished top 3, KC FUT TH are locked for champions

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-Artorias [#8]

idk kc but if fnatic wins his match against kc , fut makes champions

so does TH

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Congo1
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Mortadelo [#10]

Who do you want to qualify

In order:

  1. Heretics
  2. FNC
  3. FUT
  4. Vitality
  5. Navi
  6. KC

with Navi there is the slim chance that they at some point just lock the fuck in and remmeber who they are. Vitality just a more healthy and functioning team without the permanent structural issues of KC.

KC has 0 chance of making a deep run. As always they will get figured out and become worse and worse with every passing game.
By the time they leave groups (IF they make it past them, big if) they will be cooked.

The other two teams have a clearly higher ceiling currently. Navi might be a risky pick since their current level might be lower than KC but that doesnt matter. A loss is a loss. Rather have Navi have a 70% chance of losing even harder than KC but a 30% of making a run. KC cant go higher and KCs current level doesnt have success at champs. 100% failure chance.

Only way KC makes it past groups is getting like EDG and Talon.

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Congo1
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idk kc but if fnatic wins his match against kc , fut makes champions

are you sure? KC has more champ points than Fut and heretics rn, no?

what if fut goes 0-2?

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Congo1 [#14]

are you sure? KC has more champ points than Fut and heretics rn, no?

what if fut goes 0-2?

KC has 8, TH has 11 and FUT has 10

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Congo1 [#13]

In order:

  1. Heretics
  2. FNC
  3. FUT
  4. Vitality
  5. Navi
  6. KC

with Navi there is the slim chance that they at some point just lock the fuck in and remmeber who they are. Vitality just a more healthy and functioning team without the permanent structural issues of KC.

KC has 0 chance of making a deep run. As always they will get figured out and become worse and worse with every passing game.
By the time they leave groups (IF they make it past them, big if) they will be cooked.

The other two teams have a clearly higher ceiling currently. Navi might be a risky pick since their current level might be lower than KC but that doesnt matter. A loss is a loss. Rather have Navi have a 70% chance of losing even harder than KC but a 30% of making a run. KC cant go higher and KCs current level doesnt have success at champs. 100% failure chance.

Only way KC makes it past groups is getting like EDG and Talon.

Then that outcome is not that unlikely. I'm happy either way because if we're being realistic if VIT can't make top 3 which is not that hard they're probably not making a deep run at champs either so it kinda doesn't make much of a difference

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Dybala21 [#11]

I basically answered your question no?
If neither of Vitality and Navi finished top 3, KC FUT TH are locked for champions

sure but thats not enough, no? TH and fut have one point less than KC. If vit makes top 3 and fut goes 0-2 that means KC still quals to champs on points.

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Mortadelo [#16]

Then that outcome is not that unlikely. I'm happy either way because if we're being realistic if VIT can't make top 3 which is not that hard they're probably not making a deep run at champs either so it kinda doesn't make much of a difference

i disagree. I think the top 3 in europe is very strong right now.

I can imagine Vit going 1-2 vs fut with triple ot and 1-2 vs heretics with triple ot and miss out. These are trong inform opponents.

Maybe that means they aint winning champs but they could easily make like a top 6 or smth. maybe even 4.

Thats still a great run you lose out on.

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Congo1 [#9]

garbage dumbass system. Only giving points for win is the dumbest fucking shit ever. dumbfuck riot

Are you supposed to get points for losing lmao?

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catNmouse [#12]

so does TH

yeap

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Congo1 [#18]

i disagree. I think the top 3 in europe is very strong right now.

I can imagine Vit going 1-2 vs fut with triple ot and 1-2 vs heretics with triple ot and miss out. These are trong inform opponents.

Maybe that means they aint winning champs but they could easily make like a top 6 or smth. maybe even 4.

Thats still a great run you lose out on.

I think we just don't value Vitality equally high

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Congo1 [#17]

sure but thats not enough, no? TH and fut have one point less than KC. If vit makes top 3 and fut goes 0-2 that means KC still quals to champs on points.

Huh

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alchemy02 [#19]

Are you supposed to get points for losing lmao?

No he means the 2nd team gets the same amount of points as the last, only winner gets bonus points

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Dybala21 [#22]

Huh

the entire premise of the post was to determine how KCORP misses out on champs...

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Mortadelo [#23]

No he means the 2nd team gets the same amount of points as the last, only winner gets bonus points

correct. why is winner getting points but the 2nd nothing. the 3rd neither? should be a formula 1 like point system

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Mortadelo [#21]

I think we just don't value Vitality equally high

i think you dont value KC low enough

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