Best Teams Each Year:
2021: SEN
2022: OPTIC
2023: EG
2024: SEN
SomeoneLikeU [#2]I hate to admit it but EG wasn’t the best team in 2023. It was FNC and it’s not very close. Also SEN probably wasn’t the best team in 2021 cause Gambit was insane but SEN was the best by far in Reykjavik.
EG easily better, they beat us in champs
BulkyLettuce [#3]EG easily better, they beat us in champs
no prx was better how tf you say this buddy
catNmouse [#4]2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)fixed it for you
eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible
very valid take mr.catNmouse
catNmouse [#4]2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)fixed it for you
eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible
g0mb0t
bronzil_enjoyer [#5]no prx was better how tf you say this buddy
eg had a better year than prx last year let’s be for real
bronzil_enjoyer [#5]no prx was better how tf you say this buddy
PRX is the best team in the world but 2023 EG is better than 2023 FNC
BulkyLettuce [#11]PRX is the best team in the world but 2023 EG is better than 2023 FNC
best team in the world til they face an NA team
0/8
https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year/
2021: GAMBIT, ACEND, SEN, FNATIC, ENVY
2022: OPTIC, LOUD, FPX, DRX, PRX
2023: FNATIC, EG, PRX, LOUD, DRX
2024: ???
LocoMonteiro [#16]buddy, Loud were literally the only team with a chance to beat Fnatic in 2023, i really hope you understand that if fnatic beat Loud at champs they go on to win the tournament pretty confidently
Nah champs was the start of them falling off
LocoMonteiro [#16]buddy, Loud were literally the only team with a chance to beat Fnatic in 2023, i really hope you understand that if fnatic beat Loud at champs they go on to win the tournament pretty confidently
Nah i hate to break it to you but every team that placed above Fnatic at champs woulda beat them at champs.
Loud - Self explanatory, it literally happened twice. woulda happened the first time too if not for a historic choke/comeback.
PRX - PRX with something have outperformed Fnatic at every single tournament since Tokyo. You could make the case that they coulda beat them at Tokyo as well, considering that champs was only a month later and they got second and beat the team that beat fnatic twice (loud), and managed a close win vs EG .
EG - EG at tokyo was one smoke spam away from beating Fnatic in a bo3, and that was without like 2 weeks of prac with their star player, and while they were still on their upward trajectory, which peaked at champs and proved without a doubt that they were the best team at that tournament.
Finally, a team that is getting 13-1'd by DRX on their own map pick wasn't gonna beat any of those 3.
Yuh_aye [#23]Nah i hate to break it to you but every team that placed above Fnatic at champs woulda beat them at champs.
Loud - Self explanatory, it literally happened twice. woulda happened the first time too if not for a historic choke/comeback.
PRX - PRX with something have outperformed Fnatic at every single tournament since Tokyo. You could make the case that they coulda beat them at Tokyo as well, considering that champs was only a month later and they got second and beat the team that beat fnatic twice (loud), and managed a close win vs EG .
EG - EG at tokyo was one smoke spam away from beating Fnatic in a bo3, and that was without like 2 weeks of prac with their star player, and while they were still on their upward trajectory, which peaked at champs and proved without a doubt that they were the best team at that tournament.Finally, a team that is getting 13-1'd by DRX on their own map pick wasn't gonna beat any of those 3.
Thank you!
Finally someone with brains
charleser [#19]Average VLR revisionism thread. FNC was the best team of 2023 and it's not even close. Makes me sad considering how washed they are this year.
it's a SEN fan. FNC was the most consistent team of 2023 for sure, but they didn't end the year as the best team.
DSGFan [#25]Thank you!
Finally someone with brains
they can downvote it but they can't respond to it, tells you all you need to know
Yuh_aye [#29]they can downvote it but they can't respond to it, tells you all you need to know
exactly
catNmouse [#4]2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)fixed it for you
eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible
2024 clearly goes to Gen G atp
Gambit were the best in 2021. Winning 1 masters and reaching the final in champions. Thats two finals, Sen only made 1
Fnatic were the best in 2023 Winning 2 events.
Loud were the best in 2022. Winning Champs and reaching another final
How is sen the best in 2024? They won one event and didn't even make the other. GenG have reached both finals this year and won one of them. So you're deluded
Vexd [#33]Gambit were the best in 2021. Winning 1 masters and reaching the final in champions. Thats two finals, Sen only made 1
Fnatic were the best in 2023 Winning 2 events.
Loud were the best in 2022. Winning Champs and reaching another final
How is sen the best in 2024? They won one event and didn't even make the other. GenG have reached both finals this year and won one of them. So you're deluded
Because Americas is the only region apparently
merciless-pity8989-89 [#32]2024 clearly goes to Gen G atp
If Geng do bad in champs and TH or SEN win its for the winner
Yuh_aye [#29]they can downvote it but they can't respond to it, tells you all you need to know
There is nothing to respond to, those are all hypothetics made up by you, the only team that beat fnatic convincingly that year was Loud (that liquid 3-1 was a bit flukey)
And its not like Im speculating, Derke himself said on a podcast that they knew if they beat Loud they would win champs and that they were aware that Loud was the only team with the potencial to beat them
SomeoneLikeU [#38]Bro said TH. SEN is 10x better.
they had a dominant run in masters and they've looked consistent locally, if a team can't keep their form why even consider
r3verie_ [#35]If Geng do bad in champs and TH or SEN win its for the winner
sen winning would be enough for them to be the team of the year imo
LocoMonteiro [#37]There is nothing to respond to, those are all hypothetics made up by you, the only team that beat fnatic convincingly that year was Loud (that liquid 3-1 was a bit flukey)
And its not like Im speculating, Derke himself said on a podcast that they knew if they beat Loud they would win champs and that they were aware that Loud was the only team with the potencial to beat them
claims that I'm being hypothetical, proceeds to talk about derke's speculation (cope) that they woulda beat EG and PRX if they beat loud.
Lets go through it one more time
The Facts
#1 Loud beat FNC twice at champs, coulda won the first time
#2 PRX with Something playing has outperformed Fnatic ever since (Champs, Madrid, and Shanghai)
#3 A fast improving EG came very close to beating Fnatic in a Bo3 at Tokyo even with complications surrounding practice with their star player.
#4 DRX nearly 13-0'd Fnatic on their own map pick at champs
The 'Hypothetical' parts
A. PRX could have beat Fnatic at Tokyo if they had Something - This plausible due to #2
B. EG would have beaten Fnatic at Tokyo
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B is pretty obvious to anybody who watched the tournament, but since you wanna pretend we don't have eyes, lets look at it in more detail.
#4 logically implies that EG would have won, because it means Fnatic was playing at a level much weaker than EG, given that EG dunked on DRX
#3 logically implies that EG would have won, given that they already gave them a respectable fight when they were weaker and had prac/visa issues
#1 logically implies that EG would have won, given that Loud > Fnatic, and EG > Loud (proved it in Bo5)
#2 plausibly implies that EG would have won, given that EG > PRX, and PRX is at least plausibly better than FNC (see A)
2021 GMB clears
2022 optic beats loud only cause loud didn't do well in copenhagen
2023 fnatic ez. I can see the argument for EG but they were not cookin at lockin and lockin grand final was the best grand final we've had in valorant even though I was crushed as a loud fan
2024 is GENG unless SEN win and GENG doesn't make grand final