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Why NA is the BEST Region.

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#1
oiiink

Best Teams Each Year:

2021: SEN
2022: OPTIC
2023: EG
2024: SEN

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I hate to admit it but EG wasn’t the best team in 2023. It was FNC and it’s not very close. Also SEN probably wasn’t the best team in 2021 cause Gambit was insane but SEN was the best by far in Reykjavik.

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SomeoneLikeU [#2]

I hate to admit it but EG wasn’t the best team in 2023. It was FNC and it’s not very close. Also SEN probably wasn’t the best team in 2021 cause Gambit was insane but SEN was the best by far in Reykjavik.

EG easily better, they beat us in champs

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2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)

fixed it for you

eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible

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BulkyLettuce [#3]

EG easily better, they beat us in champs

no prx was better how tf you say this buddy

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Is 2024 already over? U can't say who is the best team with Champs not started

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Platypusdude
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2021 gambit
2022 optic
2023 Fnatic
2024 geng

Ezzzz

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bronzil_enjoyer
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catNmouse [#4]

2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)

fixed it for you

eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible

very valid take mr.catNmouse

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oiiink
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catNmouse [#4]

2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)

fixed it for you

eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible

g0mb0t

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catNmouse
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bronzil_enjoyer [#5]

no prx was better how tf you say this buddy

eg had a better year than prx last year let’s be for real

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BulkyLettuce
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bronzil_enjoyer [#5]

no prx was better how tf you say this buddy

PRX is the best team in the world but 2023 EG is better than 2023 FNC

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ButterflyEffect23
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Gambit
OpTic
Fnatic
GEN.G(for now)

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bronzil_enjoyer
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oiiink [#9]

g0mb0t

gambit has to be the least hateable team buddy

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catNmouse
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BulkyLettuce [#11]

PRX is the best team in the world but 2023 EG is better than 2023 FNC

best team in the world til they face an NA team

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sentinelmain377
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0/8
https://www.vlr.gg/355247/top-10-teams-of-every-year/

2021: GAMBIT, ACEND, SEN, FNATIC, ENVY
2022: OPTIC, LOUD, FPX, DRX, PRX
2023: FNATIC, EG, PRX, LOUD, DRX
2024: ???

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buddy, Loud were literally the only team with a chance to beat Fnatic in 2023, i really hope you understand that if fnatic beat Loud at champs they go on to win the tournament pretty confidently

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LocoMonteiro [#16]

buddy, Loud were literally the only team with a chance to beat Fnatic in 2023, i really hope you understand that if fnatic beat Loud at champs they go on to win the tournament pretty confidently

Nah champs was the start of them falling off

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nobody___100
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can't rank by year because it changes
i'd say:

early 2021: Sentinels
late 2021: Gambit
2022: Optic/Loud
early 2023: FNC
late 2023: EG
2024: TBD

#19
charleser
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Average VLR revisionism thread. FNC was the best team of 2023 and it's not even close. Makes me sad considering how washed they are this year.

#20
lelouch526
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how sen in 2024?
they cant qualify for shanghai
where geng were in grand finals in both masters

BEST TEAM OF 2024-GENG

#21
EzWinz
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oiiink [#9]

g0mb0t

0innk

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hellfire
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geng and th clear so hard

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Yuh_aye
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LocoMonteiro [#16]

buddy, Loud were literally the only team with a chance to beat Fnatic in 2023, i really hope you understand that if fnatic beat Loud at champs they go on to win the tournament pretty confidently

Nah i hate to break it to you but every team that placed above Fnatic at champs woulda beat them at champs.

Loud - Self explanatory, it literally happened twice. woulda happened the first time too if not for a historic choke/comeback.
PRX - PRX with something have outperformed Fnatic at every single tournament since Tokyo. You could make the case that they coulda beat them at Tokyo as well, considering that champs was only a month later and they got second and beat the team that beat fnatic twice (loud), and managed a close win vs EG .
EG - EG at tokyo was one smoke spam away from beating Fnatic in a bo3, and that was without like 2 weeks of prac with their star player, and while they were still on their upward trajectory, which peaked at champs and proved without a doubt that they were the best team at that tournament.

Finally, a team that is getting 13-1'd by DRX on their own map pick wasn't gonna beat any of those 3.

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2021: sen just won a pvp tournament and disappeared
2022: optic clapped by LOUD
2023: eg would be pissed by fnc and almost lost to loud players that had a 3 hours sleep and had no time to do anti strat after eliminate fnc
2024: lev clears

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Yuh_aye [#23]

Nah i hate to break it to you but every team that placed above Fnatic at champs woulda beat them at champs.

Loud - Self explanatory, it literally happened twice. woulda happened the first time too if not for a historic choke/comeback.
PRX - PRX with something have outperformed Fnatic at every single tournament since Tokyo. You could make the case that they coulda beat them at Tokyo as well, considering that champs was only a month later and they got second and beat the team that beat fnatic twice (loud), and managed a close win vs EG .
EG - EG at tokyo was one smoke spam away from beating Fnatic in a bo3, and that was without like 2 weeks of prac with their star player, and while they were still on their upward trajectory, which peaked at champs and proved without a doubt that they were the best team at that tournament.

Finally, a team that is getting 13-1'd by DRX on their own map pick wasn't gonna beat any of those 3.

Thank you!

Finally someone with brains

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charleser [#19]

Average VLR revisionism thread. FNC was the best team of 2023 and it's not even close. Makes me sad considering how washed they are this year.

it's a SEN fan. FNC was the most consistent team of 2023 for sure, but they didn't end the year as the best team.

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Azzelastia
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EG 2023 was the best team of all time

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canopuszz
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Azzelastia [#27]

EG 2023 was the best team of all time

not evem the best of 2023

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Yuh_aye
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DSGFan [#25]

Thank you!

Finally someone with brains

they can downvote it but they can't respond to it, tells you all you need to know

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Ballsamolee
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bronzil_enjoyer [#5]

no prx was better how tf you say this buddy

How was prx better?

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DSGFan
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Yuh_aye [#29]

they can downvote it but they can't respond to it, tells you all you need to know

exactly

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catNmouse [#4]

2021: gambit
2022: optic
2023: fnatic
2024: TBD (goes to either sen or geng)

fixed it for you

eg had an amazing year but fnatic won back to back and top 4 in champs which isn’t horrible

2024 clearly goes to Gen G atp

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Vexd
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Gambit were the best in 2021. Winning 1 masters and reaching the final in champions. Thats two finals, Sen only made 1
Fnatic were the best in 2023 Winning 2 events.
Loud were the best in 2022. Winning Champs and reaching another final
How is sen the best in 2024? They won one event and didn't even make the other. GenG have reached both finals this year and won one of them. So you're deluded

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localkoolkid
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Vexd [#33]

Gambit were the best in 2021. Winning 1 masters and reaching the final in champions. Thats two finals, Sen only made 1
Fnatic were the best in 2023 Winning 2 events.
Loud were the best in 2022. Winning Champs and reaching another final
How is sen the best in 2024? They won one event and didn't even make the other. GenG have reached both finals this year and won one of them. So you're deluded

Because Americas is the only region apparently

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r3verie_
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merciless-pity8989-89 [#32]

2024 clearly goes to Gen G atp

If Geng do bad in champs and TH or SEN win its for the winner

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buy_mace_30gp
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0/8

#37
LocoMonteiro
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Yuh_aye [#29]

they can downvote it but they can't respond to it, tells you all you need to know

There is nothing to respond to, those are all hypothetics made up by you, the only team that beat fnatic convincingly that year was Loud (that liquid 3-1 was a bit flukey)
And its not like Im speculating, Derke himself said on a podcast that they knew if they beat Loud they would win champs and that they were aware that Loud was the only team with the potencial to beat them

#38
SomeoneLikeU
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hellfire [#22]

geng and th clear so hard

Bro said TH. SEN is 10x better.

#39
nobody___100
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2021 gambit 2023 fnc 2024 geng

#40
7whanzussjwbsysbbejskaoao
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It's not dumbass

It's just teams reviving after a 3-year hiatus

#41
my-dad-ate-my-toes
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2021: GMB
2022: OpTic
2023: FNC
2024: GEN.G (so far)

#42
ersagaswdgsadghagtdsg
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2021 gambit
2022 optic
2023 fnatic
2024 geng

#43
Azzelastia
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canopuszz [#28]

not evem the best of 2023

EG World Champs from 2023

#44
hellfire
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SomeoneLikeU [#38]

Bro said TH. SEN is 10x better.

they had a dominant run in masters and they've looked consistent locally, if a team can't keep their form why even consider

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kanyenum1fan
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r3verie_ [#35]

If Geng do bad in champs and TH or SEN win its for the winner

sen winning would be enough for them to be the team of the year imo

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Yuh_aye
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LocoMonteiro [#37]

There is nothing to respond to, those are all hypothetics made up by you, the only team that beat fnatic convincingly that year was Loud (that liquid 3-1 was a bit flukey)
And its not like Im speculating, Derke himself said on a podcast that they knew if they beat Loud they would win champs and that they were aware that Loud was the only team with the potencial to beat them

claims that I'm being hypothetical, proceeds to talk about derke's speculation (cope) that they woulda beat EG and PRX if they beat loud.

Lets go through it one more time

The Facts
#1 Loud beat FNC twice at champs, coulda won the first time
#2 PRX with Something playing has outperformed Fnatic ever since (Champs, Madrid, and Shanghai)
#3 A fast improving EG came very close to beating Fnatic in a Bo3 at Tokyo even with complications surrounding practice with their star player.
#4 DRX nearly 13-0'd Fnatic on their own map pick at champs

The 'Hypothetical' parts
A. PRX could have beat Fnatic at Tokyo if they had Something - This plausible due to #2
B. EG would have beaten Fnatic at Tokyo
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B is pretty obvious to anybody who watched the tournament, but since you wanna pretend we don't have eyes, lets look at it in more detail.

#4 logically implies that EG would have won, because it means Fnatic was playing at a level much weaker than EG, given that EG dunked on DRX

#3 logically implies that EG would have won, given that they already gave them a respectable fight when they were weaker and had prac/visa issues

#1 logically implies that EG would have won, given that Loud > Fnatic, and EG > Loud (proved it in Bo5)

#2 plausibly implies that EG would have won, given that EG > PRX, and PRX is at least plausibly better than FNC (see A)

#47
hmazuur
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2021 GMB clears
2022 optic beats loud only cause loud didn't do well in copenhagen
2023 fnatic ez. I can see the argument for EG but they were not cookin at lockin and lockin grand final was the best grand final we've had in valorant even though I was crushed as a loud fan
2024 is GENG unless SEN win and GENG doesn't make grand final

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