Damn I would never believe the allegations till I saw fns and saadhak play recently. Are old igls becoming washed ?
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at least Boaster still making lans and playing great/close against the top teams in the world (Team Heretics and GENG):
FNC vs GENG:
https://www.vlr.gg/348466/fnatic-vs-gen-g-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-ubqf
FNC 13-10 GENG
FNC 10-13 GENG
FNC 11-13 GENG
Close match loss.
FNC vs TH:
https://www.vlr.gg/341821/team-heretics-vs-fnatic-champions-tour-2024-emea-stage-1-gf
FNC 7-13 TH
FNC 13-15 TH
FNC 13-8 TH
FNC 13-5 TH
FNC 13-8 TH
Win.
boo(?), johnqt, and munchkin clear boaster tho no? (theres probably other igls too) although FNC beat TH regional results dont compare to international results, teams change and improve. The only regional winner who had a good finish at shanghai was 100T but they lost horribly to TH and are doing horrible rn
but who were their games against? they almost lost to BBL, a win over vitality, and a washed karmine corp (their last match is against to a dying team liquid) + only having a few good maps isnt gonna win anything, teams to even be considered a winner need to have a vast map pool (if they dont they gotta still be decent enough on a lot of maps/are worldclass in at least 3 maps) and even so seeing how they play on these maps against teams in their own region is different story compared to how teams from other regions play their map. never said fnatic are horrible its just the truth about how teams can be different in LANs and how fnatic's maps most likely wont show the same results internationally compared to the results they get regionally
LOUD (coaching/system changed), NRG (roster/system changed), and NAVI (coaching changed) have gone through so many changes its hard to compare their results to last year/previous events lol, systems, meta, coaching, agents, map pools/changes, everything is very different that so many other teams have footage of these ex-top teams (specifically loud and NRG/optic core) basically everything is already anti-stratted/improved. and for NAVI idk i dont rlly watch emea that much but they def are in the same situation as NRG in which they arent fundamentally as strong, no matter how hard they try to stay in the meta they cant achieve good results because they just arent that strong anymore. One of the reasons why fnatic was and still is good is because they are fundamentally strong (individually and as a team) and are just one of the teams that adapt better to the meta (loud usually try to change the meta to adjust to their playstyles but the meta is so overwhelming/powerful that its hard for them and when they try the meta they dont find much success) + for fnatic to be "back" they gotta be in their best form to even be a contender for champs because thats legit every team's goal (to make it far into champs lol)
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