being honest, c0m joined a team that was totally not set up for him to fit at all lol
went from playing hard lurk cleaning up demon1 and jaw overheats and finding really good flank timings on eg to raw support player because "kingg lurks better"
it is insane how hard he has failed to adjust to this role, but i think we can all agree this is not the playstyle he won a championship on
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heavensentsaint [#6]nah i feel like mechanically he was better last year too, i saw him pull off some nasty clips but this year feels like he barely wins his 1s
definitely true, but I think that also derives(at least somewhat) from his discomfort on his role
my guy was also phantom only last year and now he's running some vandal which i swear he is never getting kills on
but yeah this guy would not win that 1v1 against kangkang on split
heavensentsaint [#6]nah i feel like mechanically he was better last year too, i saw him pull off some nasty clips but this year feels like he barely wins his 1s
mechanically, nzr has always been better than c0m 🙃
mitskiteamo [#9]mechanically, nzr has always been better than c0m 🙃
as a player, c0m has always been better than nzr
finnwithtwons [#8]also fuck it ill come out and say it
kingg is the real reason this team is going to fail and it's a complete disgrace that c0m will take all of the heat and this fucking fraud will still be considered a "good igl" next season
yeah his mechanics are good but his calls are so questionable idk how longer the kinggg igl experiment will go on
heavensentsaint [#11]yeah his mechanics are good but his calls are so questionable idk how longer the kinggg igl experiment will go on
everything about this roster fucking reeks from the top down
we all surely know that nzr getting dropped was 100% a player thing and management was just covering right?
heavensentsaint [#6]nah i feel like mechanically he was better last year too, i saw him pull off some nasty clips but this year feels like he barely wins his 1s
nah still the same, be just fits better with eg/potter system, he just not fit with lev as a team, as a player kingg is better too at lurking
videte [#13]nah still the same, be just fits better with eg/potter system, he just not fit with lev as a team, as a player kingg is better too at lurking
kingg is NOT better at lurking than corbin "HES STILL FLANKING??" lee what are we saying here...
heavensentsaint [#11]yeah his mechanics are good but his calls are so questionable idk how longer the kinggg igl experiment will go on
also the kingg igl will go on for at least one more season because all the failures are going to get chalked up to c0m instead of where they belong
finnwithtwons [#17]-guy who started watching valorant in April 2024
Bro when I started watching Valorant C0m wasn’t even in tier1. I recognize his top util usage, but this thread is just forcing a fake narrative.
ElLolo98 [#18]Bro when I started watching Valorant C0m wasn’t even in tier1. I recognize his top util usage, but this thread is just forcing a fake narrative.
how is it a fake narrative did we watch the same eg team? did the lbf against loud just not happen or?
finnwithtwons [#19]how is it a fake narrative did we watch the same eg team? did the lbf against loud just not happen or?
Of course he was amazing and can pop off again but the thing you put this year’s perfomance to blame on everyone but himself just sucks ass
finnwithtwons [#14]kingg is NOT better at lurking than corbin "HES STILL FLANKING??" lee what are we saying here...
he just does it a lot, doesnt mean hes better
ElLolo98 [#20]Of course he was amazing and can pop off again but the thing you put this year’s perfomance to blame on everyone but himself just sucks ass
no, i would say that he's definitely played very badly and has completely failed to adjust to his new role, which is on him(and maybe you can argue the coaching staff to some extent, but no real point in speculating that), but a) lev would be failing regardless because kingg is a shit igl, b) picking him up to play this role was a clear mistake, as he is not at all able to play to his strengths and c) he is still entirely capable of hitting the heights he hit at champs and his performance was not a fluke
finnwithtwons [#22]no, i would say that he's definitely played very badly and has completely failed to adjust to his new role, which is on him(and maybe you can argue the coaching staff to some extent, but no real point in speculating that), but a) lev would be failing regardless because kingg is a shit igl, b) picking him up to play this role was a clear mistake, as he is not at all able to play to his strengths and c) he is still entirely capable of hitting the heights he hit at champs and his performance was not a fluke
I really don't hate c0m, I was even happy he joined lev, but keeping the hate on Kingg when he does things like this is ???
https://x.com/Negzus1/status/1808248018530893880
Ps. Good thing he went +0 on stats this game 🥳 (genuinely). Don't get the kingg hate
ElLolo98 [#23]I really don't hate c0m, I was even happy he joined lev, but keeping the hate on Kingg when he does things like this is ???
https://x.com/Negzus1/status/1808248018530893880Ps. Good thing he went +0 on stats this game 🥳 (genuinely). Don't get the kingg hate
kingg hate comes from his complete incapability to call remotely well or have even the slightest grip on his team's structure - from what is known, major influence in nzr being cut, not an emotional leader, and LEV have less teamplay than a ranked team with 5 soloq no-commers
almost never see impact off his lurks this season either tbh
like truly what does he do except shoot back against mibr
finnwithtwons [#24]kingg hate comes from his complete incapability to call remotely well or have even the slightest grip on his team's structure - from what is known, major influence in nzr being cut, not an emotional leader, and LEV have less teamplay than a ranked team with 5 soloq no-commers
almost never see impact off his lurks this season either tbh
like truly what does he do except shoot back against mibr
Lmao, surely the vlr random knows better than 3 different coaches who is suited to igl. I love c0m and the impact he brings to the team, but this narrative is just braindead. You're a hater just cuz you don't understand what is in front of your screen.
And regardint that "only shoot back against mibr", not only the team is currently 7-1 with 0 maps dropped on stage 2 (surely 5 soloq no commers can achieve that), but also kingg was mvp against 100T and is 2nd in overall stats lmao.
finnwithtwons [#15]also the kingg igl will go on for at least one more season because all the failures are going to get chalked up to c0m instead of where they belong
pretty sure c0m is their second caller, which would explain why the team looks better than it should
Orly [#25]Lmao, surely the vlr random knows better than 3 different coaches who is suited to igl. I love c0m and the impact he brings to the team, but this narrative is just braindead. You're a hater just cuz you don't understand what is in front of your screen.
And regardint that "only shoot back against mibr", not only the team is currently 7-1 with 0 maps dropped on stage 2 (surely 5 soloq no commers can achieve that), but also kingg was mvp against 100T and is 2nd in overall stats lmao.
i dont understand what is in front of my screen when i watch lev hop from b to c and back to b and back to c between the lotus door for 50 seconds, praying that a player will rotate from one of the sites so they can avoid hitting a site with two people holding it, before eventually sending it into one of the two and losing the round? i don't understand what is in front of my screen when i watch lev throw away several 5v3s and 5v4s at shanghai to geng and fut after aspas gives them yet another first blood? yeah im sure bud
you can try and twist my words all you like, but we both watched that fut game, we both watched that geng game, and we certainly both watched that g2 "game", if you can even call it that, and i understood full well what was in front of my screen watching all of those
Ausam [#29]Com can't pick and choose his role on a team like lev.
thanks for sharing that, very fascinating insight
sn4ke_gg [#32]The narrative is cUm is not a good player, he is a one trick player that can play only in a specific way and with a specific coach, Potter can make even Apoth look good that doesn’t mean he is good.
flag im afraid
finnwithtwons [#10]as a player, c0m has always been better than nzr
as a system player, which is why com worked at the highest level, at least lev has some ideas now
Sidyon [#27]pretty sure c0m is their second caller, which would explain why the team looks better than it should
he is, ever since he got into the team they don't insta lose the round at the 1m mark
sn4ke_gg [#32]The narrative is cUm is not a good player, he is a one trick player that can play only in a specific way and with a specific coach, Potter can make even Apoth look good that doesn’t mean he is good.
by that definition most players are system players
pancada comes to mind
the qualifier of "system player" as a way to label someone as a bad player is thoroughly braindead, no matter how you define it or justify it, its just the dumbest shit anyone can say
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