So seen someone talking about a PC they want to build, currently working with this for myself this summer and want to make sure it is future proof with good upgrade paths as well as good enough for when I finish uni (going into IT, most likely machine intelligence). Not exactly good with building PC's only ever had prebuilts.
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SmithAndWinston [#2]LOL UK AT BEGINNING OF LINK. EU LOSER
you live in NA you fat fck, go eat your 10lb burger + 2 giant cokes + a side of diabetes + obesity
SmithAndWinston [#2]LOL UK AT BEGINNING OF LINK. EU LOSER
the people in the replies are funny. 2 US flags with one of them reps RRQ and a 0 star. THEY HATE ME CAUSE I SPEAK THE TRUTH. ONLY HATED BY THE RETARDED
SmithAndWinston [#6]the people in the replies are funny. 2 US flags with one of them reps RRQ and a 0 star. THEY HATE ME CAUSE I SPEAK THE TRUTH. ONLY HATED BY THE RETARDED
lol stfu buddy
nobody___100 [#5]you live in NA you fat fck, go eat your 10lb burger + 2 giant cokes + a side of diabetes + obesity
friendly fire
JMZxp [#8]American making Americans look bad
I dont even know what your flag is. You live in an auraless country
SmithAndWinston [#11]I dont even know what your flag is. You live in an auraless country
what 🤣 norway is an infinitely better country than united states of shit
welikefortniteandvalorant [#12]what 🤣 norway is an infinitely better country than united states of shit
what a joke
welikefortniteandvalorant [#12]what 🤣 norway is an infinitely better country than united states of shit
You dont even have a flag to rep. Your country is nonexistent
SnorlaxEnjoyer [#15]my only critique of this build is the cooler I prefer the noctua NH-D15 very quiet and keeps shit cool enough or spend the extra and get one of the water coolers the corsair ones
LOL WHAT IS THIS ADVICE
The phantom spirit beats or ties the Noctua NH-D15 for 1/3 of the price.
Corsair has terrible AIOs for performance.
doomvor [#16]LOL WHAT IS THIS ADVICE
The phantom spirit beats or ties the Noctua NH-D15 for 1/3 of the price.
Corsair has terrible AIOs for performance.
look you may be right dude but in the builds I have done for clients and myself I just use things that I feel like are very reliable which is why I prefer noctua so ya know it is what it is
SmithAndWinston [#14]You dont even have a flag to rep. Your country is nonexistent
Reported for politics. Enjoy ban
if you are planning to go into MI then i would suggest you to get a nvidia card
just for cuda,cudnn and other "native" shit
this thread might help - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/10673xf/hows_amd_gpus_faring_with_machine_learningdata/
welikefortniteandvalorant [#18]Reported for politics. Enjoy ban
No politics to be discussed if your country doesn't even exist. If calling a country or region shit or nonexistent would lead to a ban then most of this site would be banned for all the region wars
SmithAndWinston [#11]I dont even know what your flag is. You live in an auraless country
NA education at its finest
welikefortniteandvalorant [#12]what 🤣 norway is an infinitely better country than united states of shit
united states of shit owns the entirety of europoor
SmithAndWinston [#20]No politics to be discussed if your country doesn't even exist. If calling a country or region shit or nonexistent would lead to a ban then most of this site would be banned for all the region wars
then most of this site would be banned
whos gonna tell him
welikefortniteandvalorant [#24]then most of this site would be banned
whos gonna tell him
Wait... No wonder my favorite people here have been missing from the site
Ultia [#29]Can you state your budget? Also, your list doesn't include any storage and Nvidia is the better option for any Machine Learning/AI productivity tasks.
oh yeah forgot to mention im taking over 2 nvme 1tb storages from my current pc, budget is 850
SomeoneLikeU [#28]Mostly good build but personally I would have a better cooler and prob faster ram to like 6k but other than that looks good
was checking out people testing that specific cooler with the 7600 and temps stayed around 65C which seemed good enough to me for an AMD cpu
also the ram is 6k unless im missing something?
voxsu [#19]if you are planning to go into MI then i would suggest you to get a nvidia card
just for cuda,cudnn and other "native" shitthis thread might help - https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/10673xf/hows_amd_gpus_faring_with_machine_learningdata/
you think its worth to put an extra £30 into the build and have a 4060? was looking at reviews of the 4060 and theyre in no way positive lol
Karbite [#27]I would change the ram to 6000 cl30 since that is the sweet spot for amd.
is that worth the extra £20?
cohnr [#30]oh yeah forgot to mention im taking over 2 nvme 1tb storages from my current pc, budget is 850
I went slightly over budget by £10 but pulled off 3 different builds. You can ignore the third option if you intend to use a cloud service for working on large models.
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A Ryzen 5 7600 paired with a 4060ti. You get robust CPU Cooling with a Phantom Spirit Cooler and 32GB of fast DDR5 RAM on an AM5 Motherboard. This gives you future upgradability and a system tuned for 1080p high-refresh gaming (540Hz) all in an mATX package:
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A Ryzen 5 5600 paired with a 4070. You get a decent AM4 Motherboard with only 16GB of DDR4 RAM in the same case with the same PSU but with a 4070. You'd have to use the stock cooler unless you want to invest another £20. You sacrifice long-term future upgradability (up until a 5800x3D) for a system tuned for 1440p single-player gaming but perfectly capable with esports titles up to 240Hz:
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A Core 5 12600K paired with a 4060ti 16GB. This is a productivity and machine learning build first. Extra e-cores for multithreaded tasks and 16GB of VRAM for larger models and data. Go for this option if, and only if, your models/data will exceed 12GB of VRAM whether that's 3D rendering/animation or model training like with SDXL. The downside is that its compute is choked by low memory bandwidth and this card's value sucks for gaming:
welikefortniteandvalorant [#12]what 🤣 norway is an infinitely better country than united states of shit
It may be but because he is from there we just say it to shut his ass up
cohnr [#32]you think its worth to put an extra £30 into the build and have a 4060? was looking at reviews of the 4060 and theyre in no way positive lol
the 4060 is a borderline scam from a gaming perspective, hence the reviews
but its not bad to the point where you should never get it; you have one of the rare use case where nvidia is simply superior
I only dabbled in ML for a paper in regards to QC so I cant exactly provide any in depth insight.
The one thing I can confirm is that lot of super new implementations are made for Nvidia hardware. However at least for my use cases the 3060 (12gb) already had severe memory limitations, to the point where I had to use the universities Server.
If you go into MI I would assume your university offers a similar service. The main question would be how accessible they are for you (waitlists etc).
cohnr [#32]you think its worth to put an extra £30 into the build and have a 4060? was looking at reviews of the 4060 and theyre in no way positive lol
i would prefer my 3060 to the 4060 just for the vram size(im gonna upgrade it soon tho so i would rather wait than shoot the gun on 4060)
if you are going into deep learning then a larger vram is always beneficial over the boost in gpu core performance
see if you can get a 4060ti 16gigs if youre going to train models on it
(what card do you currently have?)
SmithAndWinston [#20]No politics to be discussed if your country doesn't even exist. If calling a country or region shit or nonexistent would lead to a ban then most of this site would be banned for all the region wars
No politics to be discussed if your country doesn't even exist
This was kinda funny though.
Anyways don't be so toxic dude. You are just minimizing your countries reputation.
voxsu [#42]i would prefer my 3060 to the 4060 just for the vram size(im gonna upgrade it soon tho so i would rather wait than shoot the gun on 4060)
if you are going into deep learning then a larger vram is always beneficial over the boost in gpu core performance
see if you can get a 4060ti 16gigs if youre going to train models on it
(what card do you currently have?)
currently using uni's cloud services, planning to upgrade at the end of next year to a 4060ti 16GB anyways so thats why I wanted an upgradeable system, just need something for this year to save up enough for that 4060ti
Ultia [#34]I went slightly over budget by £10 but pulled off 3 different builds. You can ignore the third option if you intend to use a cloud service for working on large models.
A Ryzen 5 7600 paired with a 4060ti. You get robust CPU Cooling with a Phantom Spirit Cooler and 32GB of fast DDR5 RAM on an AM5 Motherboard. This gives you future upgradability and a system tuned for 1080p high-refresh gaming (540Hz) all in an mATX package:
A Ryzen 5 5600 paired with a 4070. You get a decent AM4 Motherboard with only 16GB of DDR4 RAM in the same case with the same PSU but with a 4070. You'd have to use the stock cooler unless you want to invest another £20. You sacrifice long-term future upgradability (up until a 5800x3D) for a system tuned for 1440p single-player gaming but perfectly capable with esports titles up to 240Hz:
A Core 5 12600K paired with a 4060ti 16GB. This is a productivity and machine learning build first. Extra e-cores for multithreaded tasks and 16GB of VRAM for larger models and data. Go for this option if, and only if, your models/data will exceed 12GB of VRAM whether that's 3D rendering/animation or model training like with SDXL. The downside is that its compute is choked by low memory bandwidth and this card's value sucks for gaming:
I like the first one but the only problem is that the 50 series is coming out so soon after buying this and dont wanna feel like im getting ripped off because of the price dropping lol
definitely going to look into the first one tho
edit: most likely going to actually take the first one and try it, thanks man really appreciate taking the time to make those for me
cohnr [#44]currently using uni's cloud services, planning to upgrade at the end of next year to a 4060ti 16GB anyways so thats why I wanted an upgradeable system, just need something for this year to save up enough for that 4060ti
yeah just get the 4060ti later unless you cant go a day without gaming
also if you want to future proof it then try going with am5 (if amd) even tho a bit more expensive for ram and mobo
i just upgraded to a 7800x3d that shit is good just needs a beefy cooler
voxsu [#46]yeah just get the 4060ti later unless you cant go a day without gaming
also if you want to future proof it then try going with am5 (if amd) even tho a bit more expensive for ram and mobo
i just upgraded to a 7800x3d that shit is good just needs a beefy cooler
yeah im looking more and more at the part list Ultia sent in (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/WoozyKoala/saved/#view=7jqM3C) and quite liking it, 4060ti 8GB should be easy enough to sell on second hand as well
Targu1n [#38]the 4060 is a borderline scam from a gaming perspective, hence the reviews
but its not bad to the point where you should never get it; you have one of the rare use case where nvidia is simply superiorI only dabbled in ML for a paper in regards to QC so I cant exactly provide any in depth insight.
The one thing I can confirm is that lot of super new implementations are made for Nvidia hardware. However at least for my use cases the 3060 (12gb) already had severe memory limitations, to the point where I had to use the universities Server.
If you go into MI I would assume your university offers a similar service. The main question would be how accessible they are for you (waitlists etc).
ML for next year in the course shouldn't be that intensive so I should be able to get away with 8GB card and if I need to, I have a friend that has a 4080 ti that would be willing to help me out just need to think about the year after that so going to go straight into upgrading at the end of next year to a 4060ti 16GB
uni services arent that bad, cloud based but they do have a tendancy to go down
cohnr [#47]yeah im looking more and more at the part list Ultia sent in (https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/WoozyKoala/saved/#view=7jqM3C) and quite liking it, 4060ti 8GB should be easy enough to sell on second hand as well
yeah seems good
you might also be able to run dual 4060ti later
(im not sure about the diff memory capacity tho(8+8 or 16+16 should work not sure if 8+16 will count as 24 tho) and with that processor both will be on pcie x8 instead of x16 but added vram and compute is always a plus)
cohnr [#45]I like the first one but the only problem is that the 50 series is coming out so soon after buying this and dont wanna feel like im getting ripped off because of the price dropping lol
definitely going to look into the first one tho
edit: most likely going to actually take the first one and try it, thanks man really appreciate taking the time to make those for me
All good dude!
Prices tend to fluctuate for GPUs daily due to new sales. Make sure to use PcPartPicker to check prices and compare reviews from the best value models for thermals/user complaints.
Hope that build treats you well!
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