Compared to SMB and Gambit, arent Acend being rated way higher even though they came only 3rd having lost to both those teams. Plus most of their success is also solely dependant on a single player popping off .... idk how they are being considered a dream match up for SEN over SMB/Gambit.
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Mrityunjay [#2]Tell me you havent watched Acend without telling me you havent watched Acend
I have watched them....that doesnt change the fact they lost to both SMB and Gambit.
You wont be handed the trophy just cz your play looks good, what matters is if you win or not.
zephyr_nah [#3]I have watched them....that doesnt change the fact they lost to both SMB and Gambit.
You wont be handed the trophy just cz your play looks good, what matters is if you win or not.
Maybe acend on purpose wanted to come 3rd so that maybe they could eliminate sentinels from groups itself.
mangolemonade81 [#4]sen also super overrated because they lost to bbg once
Stupid comparison. SMB and Gambit arent "1 match wonders" , they are legit solid teams who will be competing in Berlin too.
blubeer [#6]Maybe acend on purpose wanted to come 3rd so that maybe they could eliminate sentinels from groups itself.
wish they didnt 'lose on purpose' to avoid being in a group of death.
zephyr_nah [#7]Stupid comparison. SMB and Gambit arent "1 match wonders" , they are legit solid teams who will be competing in Berlin too.
was an exaggeration but alright my point was that just because a team loses an unimportant seeding match doesn't mean they're necessarily worse than the people that beat them
mangolemonade81 [#11]was an exaggeration but alright my point was that just because a team loses an unimportant seeding match doesn't mean they're necessarily worse than the people that beat them
'unimportant' yeah right ... got seeded in the group of death right after . Had they won the whole thing being the 'no.1 EU rep' , they would have avoided it.
zephyr_nah [#12]'unimportant' yeah right ... got seeded in the group of death right after . Had they won the whole thing being the 'no.1 EU rep' , they would have avoided it.
yes, because NA 3rd gets easy group and EMEA 3rd gets group of death. Everyone totally saw this coming. It's not their fault Riot doesn't release the way matches will be seeded until they release the actual schedule. If they got NV's group, and NV got their group, which iirc could've realistically happened, you would not have an argument.
I think the big thing with Acend is not only are they a good team, they player for player match up with SEN effectively. They also definitely have proven to be at the level of a Gambit or SMB even though they got 3rd in challengers finals.
One reason I believe Gambit are not being rated highly is their lack of a superstar duelist, they have Nats and he is great but not the entry. I feel people equate team success with how good your #1 duelist is and for Gambit that can lead to them looking lackluster. Realistically they are a well oiled machine that is very balanced but idk.
SMB is due to how new they are. Also, they can flop the most out of the 3 due to their heavy aim duel playstyle. that will get shut down by SEN as no one can out aim that at this very moment.
zephyr_nah [#12]'unimportant' yeah right ... got seeded in the group of death right after . Had they won the whole thing being the 'no.1 EU rep' , they would have avoided it.
or they couldve won that seeding match and lose to gambit, to also be seeded in the group of death. I think that the VS situation just proved that seeding doesn't matter.
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