all look like orgless teams except TSM M80 FULLSENSE
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any big org in ascension 2024?
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#4]What counts as big org?
relevant org with clout and mutiple esports team that people know about not something like YFP gaming or QOR
meyournightmare [#5]relevant org with clout and mutiple esports team that people know about not something like YFP gaming or QOR
Does fennel scarz and riddle count?
IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]Does fennel scarz and riddle count?
fennel and scarz yes
never heard of riddle before
hellfire [#11]9z?
streets will never forget how 9z won this match
https://www.hltv.org/matches/2372343/9z-vs-vitality-iem-dallas-2024
meyournightmare [#9]fennel and scarz yes
never heard of riddle before
Mb I looked at riddle played in algs last split and equated them having clout
In terms of orgs with teams. Theres a few kicking around in EMEA
-Ascend is still playing in east
-A couple turkish orgs like FF and SMB
-Dach has orgs like mouz and SK
-Apex are there, no one cares because they got no clout but they're there
-MENA has TM and Falcons who come with huge amounts of Saudi clout (and because of esports world cup they're in pretty much every game now)
FDWC- [#19]TSM
M80
Moist
SK Gaming
MOUZ
FOKUS
SAW
Falcons
Twisted Minds
B8 Esports
Barca
Apeks
Eternal Fire
9z
BOOM
Dplus
NORTHEPTION
FENNEL
FULL SENSEpretty big name
Kinda Crazy Falcons and Twisted Minds currently have a presence in 35 different games between them not even counting their secondary teams like Falcons Vega or TM orchids in GC and CAH
PrinceCharming [#21]Kinda Crazy Falcons and Twisted Minds currently have a presence in 35 different games between them not even counting their secondary teams like Falcons Vega or TM orchids in GC and CAH
yeah they are investing on esports hard
FDWC- [#27]yeah they are investing on esports hard
I think a lot of it is EWC. The 20 million dollar payout for the winning club overall. Like otherwise who on earth is paying for a pubg team these days
PrinceCharming [#28]I think a lot of it is EWC. The 20 million dollar payout for the winning club overall. Like otherwise who on earth is paying for a pubg team these days
i think saudi investing on esports too
they are hosting alot of esports events there not just EWC
FDWC- [#29]i think saudi investing on esports too
they are hosting alot of esports events there not just EWC
Yeah kinda, a lot of it stems from ownership. Face It and ESL are Saudi owned which means they own the back bone of CS and Overwatch (overwatch is unique for being the esport they're actually pretty good at if they luck the right meta). And also have there hand in other games like dota and starcraft
Mortadelo [#6]Apeks is big infrastructure wise but they have negative fanbase
Are there any big fanbase teams left in T2 emeA?
I dont think so
Congo1 [#32]Are there any big fanbase teams left in T2 emeA?
I dont think so
Mandatory is pretty big
Fokus and Mouz are not huge but definitely bigger than Apeks
And some of the turks, SUP maybe
Mortadelo [#33]Mandatory is pretty big
Fokus and Mouz are not huge but definitely bigger than Apeks
And some of the turks, SUP maybe
SUP have huge fanbase in League not VAL
FF probably have biggest fanbase in VAL for Turkey
Gutssz [#35]SUP have huge fanbase in League not VAL
FF probably have biggest fanbase in VAL for Turkey
ty
Mortadelo [#33]Mandatory is pretty big
Fokus and Mouz are not huge but definitely bigger than Apeks
And some of the turks, SUP maybe
Mandatory and JL
Injonc [#37]Mandatory and JL
Can you give a little context on both? Ik they're big I don't think I fully understand how much or why tho
KyLZi [#22]man, I wish JPN valorant was good.
all they need is a Japanese team to win internationals
Mortadelo [#38]Can you give a little context on both? Ik they're big I don't think I fully understand how much or why tho
They are both created by 2 big streamer; Mandatory by ZeratoR and Joblife by JL_Tomy. They both have a good viewer ship. so tha. Why they can perfom well when they stream their team.
meyournightmare [#34]they are inactive
Damwon gaming -> damwon kia -> d+ kia they just rebranded over the years cause of sponsors
decently popular after winning worlds + showmaker in league of legends
they're on a tear rn in Korea ascension
Injonc [#41]They are both created by 2 big streamer; Mandatory by ZeratoR and Joblife by JL_Tomy. They both have a good viewer ship. so tha. Why they can perfom well when they stream their team.
Ah I see, which one is bigger? Mandatory?
taejuny [#31]Surprised not more people are mentioning Damwon.
It's not the same since dplus. Damwon logo and brand was tier S
PrinceCharming [#20]In terms of orgs with teams. Theres a few kicking around in EMEA
-Ascend is still playing in east
-A couple turkish orgs like FF and SMB
-Dach has orgs like mouz and SK
-Apex are there, no one cares because they got no clout but they're there
-MENA has TM and Falcons who come with huge amounts of Saudi clout (and because of esports world cup they're in pretty much every game now)
Ascend and Apex my fav teams
PrinceCharming [#28]I think a lot of it is EWC. The 20 million dollar payout for the winning club overall. Like otherwise who on earth is paying for a pubg team these days
i went to high school with one of the kids on the falcons pubg team
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