Bias against Florescent

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Ballsamolee

Why are people acting like florescent is a shit player who would even do ass in tier 2? Just because she plays in gc doesn't mean that she is untalented. She is legit performing in tier 3, and even in the qualifiers she was doing amazing on a mid team. To put that into perspective, players like jakee, runi, and icy rarely even put these numbers in tier 3, but they all did good in tier 1. I'm not saying that she deserves to have an automatic spot in tier 1, but you guys think that she is a shit player and completely underrate her which is completely wrong.

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trikecycle

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Cause her teams bombs out of the qualifiers

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Ballsamolee

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I don't get that argument. Has any of the tier 3 players I have talked about ever played in tier 2 before they played in tier 1? It's not like they did shit in tier 1 either.

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I don’t agree with it either I think people just look at sr failing qualifiers and then say none of them deserve tier 2 cause they didn’t make it. Obviously that’s not how it works but people don’t use critical thinking much on this site

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Ballsamolee

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Yeah it is stupid as fuck

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OkOkay

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well thats the teams fault not florescent herself

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nobody___100

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demon1 failing in NRG is ch0t's fault, but people still call him lemon1, diamond1, cuck1, etc
people are braindead

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OkOkay

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what is blud yappin abt

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nobody___100

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example of team being mid and people calling good players bad as a result

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i think with more t2 experience if she keeps frying like this she'll def make a good argument for herself, for now we just need to see how well she does in like challengers and stuff

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Ballsamolee

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Yeah but people are saying that she is a tier 4 player who will get fried in challengers which is completely wrong. However, I believe with a good system, Flor can be amazing in tier 1.

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espeon

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people can say whatever they want but just like with something who was frying in tier 2, it just depends on performance. personally i dont she'll be tier 1 ready for a little bit, but if she gets a good system and keeps up her insane performances she will definitely be in the conversation soon

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nobody___100

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i kinda agree, if she has a tier 1 system, I think she can play tier 1 level, but she's stuck in GC which is a tier 3 system at best

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espeon

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yea, i lwk think her and sarah could do well in tier 2 just like bob and katsumi, branching out to coed would do both of them so well

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never gonna hype someone up for t1 for GC performances

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Ballsamolee

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What has icy done to prove he was good enough for tier 1? What has runi done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1? What has jakee done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1?

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x_knowitall39_x

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play good in t1

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icy carried g2 against prx and place 3rd at a masters event

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Ballsamolee

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What has he done in tier 3 tho? What made him good enough for him to get picked up? Give me the answer.

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heavensentsaint

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why does his tier 3 performances matter if he’s placing 3rd in a tier 1 tournament and g2 players fw him

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Ballsamolee

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So icy was a shit player before he was in tier 1. Got it.

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heavensentsaint

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icy was on the eg reserve roster and helped them do their 10 man scrim fetish

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Ballsamolee

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Okay that is honestly valid, but you are deflecting my question about runi and jakee.

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CanadianLegend

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For runi he was a good player for Soniqs(miss them sm) which did pretty good in tier 2, and that’s prolly why he got the t1 spot, idk about Jakee

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Ballsamolee

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Runi never made it into tier 2. However, my main argument is that florescent doesn't suck like what these people say.

continue thread →

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OkOkay

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florescent scrims against franchise teams brotha

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t3 doesnt matter thats the point, he was on eg reserves and was a good pick up

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CanadianLegend

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Icy was a prominent member of the EG reserve team, who basically trained EG to winning champs… so with that and likely some connections here and there it made him a good choice for g2

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heavensentsaint

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😭😭 these mfs r asking to drop cryo zekken for fl0rescent

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laifu

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no ones saying that dummy

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There literally were lmao. Look back at people saying to drop Asuna for Florescent and shit like that.

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nobody___100

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lets be very clear
cryo and zekken clear asuna by a light year

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buddy hasn't been watching any matches recently

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nobody___100

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buddy didn't watch any 100t games before boostio

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watched every game, using games from last year to make an argument about now is just stupid

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nobody___100

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asuna ain't a good player without boostio is my point
potter made c0m look good

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heavensentsaint

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nah asuna is better than cryo, cryo has been lowkey mid after the fut game

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lollollollol

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Eh. Cryo is usually better imo. Although Asuna is way more aggro so his team can trade him

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heavensentsaint

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yeah cryo plays too passively so idk, asunas gekko is miles ahead still

asuna just runs it down and gets 1

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lollollollol

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And Asuna clears Florescent by several thousand light years lmao. And yet people were saying to drop him for Flor because he was doing bad against actual T1 pros like Aspas compared to Flor farming no name T4 gc players

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asuna clears zekken

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nobody___100

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d0rt as usual, making NRG fans look bad

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laifu

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All 10 of your comments on vlr are just misogynistic towards SR congrats

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laifu

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Exhibit A: flor vs Turtle Troop https://www.vlr.gg/281432/turtle-troop-vs-version1-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2023-october-sf

Sure, her team isn't successful and it's a team game but it's just pure bias at this point saying that she can't compete in challengers

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nobody___100

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exactly, the only person who outfragged her in that match is moose and he's now in tier 1

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dort

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he would get dominated by any team with a brain

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Still excited for when you finally get one of those!

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Twentytwo

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How about we wait until she plays t2 matches before making useless arguments that won't answer anything

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her team sucks and mel is a fraud who was never close to deserving a tier 1 spot (like those reports said that one time) but her and sarah are tier 2 level for sure. maybe sarah lower but still theyre both at the level of a spot there

she needs to join a coed team cause idk if theres any good NA gc igls who can bring her and sarah to tier 2

maybe they need coaching or something but i rlly think those 2 and maybe alexis should leave the others behind

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nobody___100

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fns needs to marry up and have a daughter

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mel is the fns of gc (only aim-wise)

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CanadianLegend

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It’s just really the fact her team gets dominated by no name tier 2/3 teams, it’s just not a good look even if she has stellar performances which really does suck 🤷‍♂️

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1phnxe

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why is such a mid player getting discussed so often?
let’s see her in some real comp before we start making threads about him/her or whatever being in t1

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Ballsamolee

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I never said shit about her being in tier 1. I am just saying that she won't be fried in tier 2.

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Penqu1N

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Florescent is really really skilled. But Keep in mind talent isn't always what teams are looking for. I played with her on my team in a comp game a little while back and she hard carried, but she rarely communicated at all and the few times she did were kind of toxic. I'm not saying shes always like this, but if she has an ego it could be a turn off for teams since t1 requires insane amounts of communication and team chemistry.

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Ballsamolee

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Okay this makes sense. I would see why this would be a turn off, but the people hating on her don't even know about her personality. They are just hating to hate.

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Penqu1N

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Yeah a lot of people hate just to hate. I think she needs to join a Tier 2 team before she can make it into T1.

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nobody___100

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actually good take, half the people here are braindead

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Vegaaa

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insane player, extremely low tier (compared to t1/t2) league. but shes only in gc bcus its smartewr than t2. "she needs to build experience and show her worth in t2 though" why do that when she has a bigger name and reward in gc?

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Ballsamolee

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She most definitely wants to play in tier 2, but the reason why she is still playing in gc is for the reasons you gave and the fact that she never was part of a team in which she didn't have to carry.

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i feel like ppl overhype flor because flor is like one of the best gc players and some people are just kinda biased towards gc players and want some sort of gc representation in tier 1

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nobody___100

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more people are biased against GC players, and nobody is hyping up anybody other than flor, because nobody other than flor has been shown to be outstanding in GC

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Ballsamolee

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Honestly yeah idk about how she will perform in tier 1, but I am just saying that she isn't a tier 3928328932832 player and has the tier 3 capabilities to hold their own in at least tier 2. Bob was worse than flor in tier 2, but she still managed to be the best on her tier 2 team.

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Penqu1N

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She definitely needs to go to t2 first, and if she's good enough, then tier 1. Let's not forget that their are High School Teams in HSEL that have beat some GC teams. Not all of them, and I'm not saying GC is easy, but some teams aren't really that good.