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Bias against Florescent

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Ballsamolee

Why are people acting like florescent is a shit player who would even do ass in tier 2? Just because she plays in gc doesn't mean that she is untalented. She is legit performing in tier 3, and even in the qualifiers she was doing amazing on a mid team. To put that into perspective, players like jakee, runi, and icy rarely even put these numbers in tier 3, but they all did good in tier 1. I'm not saying that she deserves to have an automatic spot in tier 1, but you guys think that she is a shit player and completely underrate her which is completely wrong.

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Cause her teams bombs out of the qualifiers

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Ballsamolee
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trikecycle [#2]

Cause her teams bombs out of the qualifiers

I don't get that argument. Has any of the tier 3 players I have talked about ever played in tier 2 before they played in tier 1? It's not like they did shit in tier 1 either.

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trikecycle [#2]

Cause her teams bombs out of the qualifiers

well thats the teams fault not florescent herself

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i think with more t2 experience if she keeps frying like this she'll def make a good argument for herself, for now we just need to see how well she does in like challengers and stuff

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Ballsamolee [#3]

I don't get that argument. Has any of the tier 3 players I have talked about ever played in tier 2 before they played in tier 1? It's not like they did shit in tier 1 either.

I don’t agree with it either I think people just look at sr failing qualifiers and then say none of them deserve tier 2 cause they didn’t make it. Obviously that’s not how it works but people don’t use critical thinking much on this site

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espeon [#5]

i think with more t2 experience if she keeps frying like this she'll def make a good argument for herself, for now we just need to see how well she does in like challengers and stuff

Yeah but people are saying that she is a tier 4 player who will get fried in challengers which is completely wrong. However, I believe with a good system, Flor can be amazing in tier 1.

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OkOkay [#4]

well thats the teams fault not florescent herself

demon1 failing in NRG is ch0t's fault, but people still call him lemon1, diamond1, cuck1, etc
people are braindead

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trikecycle [#6]

I don’t agree with it either I think people just look at sr failing qualifiers and then say none of them deserve tier 2 cause they didn’t make it. Obviously that’s not how it works but people don’t use critical thinking much on this site

Yeah it is stupid as fuck

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Ballsamolee [#7]

Yeah but people are saying that she is a tier 4 player who will get fried in challengers which is completely wrong. However, I believe with a good system, Flor can be amazing in tier 1.

people can say whatever they want but just like with something who was frying in tier 2, it just depends on performance. personally i dont she'll be tier 1 ready for a little bit, but if she gets a good system and keeps up her insane performances she will definitely be in the conversation soon

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espeon [#10]

people can say whatever they want but just like with something who was frying in tier 2, it just depends on performance. personally i dont she'll be tier 1 ready for a little bit, but if she gets a good system and keeps up her insane performances she will definitely be in the conversation soon

i kinda agree, if she has a tier 1 system, I think she can play tier 1 level, but she's stuck in GC which is a tier 3 system at best

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x_knowitall39_x
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never gonna hype someone up for t1 for GC performances

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x_knowitall39_x [#12]

never gonna hype someone up for t1 for GC performances

What has icy done to prove he was good enough for tier 1? What has runi done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1? What has jakee done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1?

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x_knowitall39_x [#12]

never gonna hype someone up for t1 for GC performances

😭😭 these mfs r asking to drop cryo zekken for fl0rescent

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Exhibit A: flor vs Turtle Troop https://www.vlr.gg/281432/turtle-troop-vs-version1-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2023-october-sf

Sure, her team isn't successful and it's a team game but it's just pure bias at this point saying that she can't compete in challengers

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Ballsamolee [#13]

What has icy done to prove he was good enough for tier 1? What has runi done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1? What has jakee done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1?

play good in t1

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he would get dominated by any team with a brain

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Ballsamolee [#13]

What has icy done to prove he was good enough for tier 1? What has runi done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1? What has jakee done to prove that he was good enough for tier 1?

icy carried g2 against prx and place 3rd at a masters event

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heavensentsaint [#18]

icy carried g2 against prx and place 3rd at a masters event

What has he done in tier 3 tho? What made him good enough for him to get picked up? Give me the answer.

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Ballsamolee [#19]

What has he done in tier 3 tho? What made him good enough for him to get picked up? Give me the answer.

why does his tier 3 performances matter if he’s placing 3rd in a tier 1 tournament and g2 players fw him

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dort [#17]

he would get dominated by any team with a brain

Still excited for when you finally get one of those!

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heavensentsaint [#20]

why does his tier 3 performances matter if he’s placing 3rd in a tier 1 tournament and g2 players fw him

So icy was a shit player before he was in tier 1. Got it.

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Ballsamolee [#19]

What has he done in tier 3 tho? What made him good enough for him to get picked up? Give me the answer.

t3 doesnt matter thats the point, he was on eg reserves and was a good pick up

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How about we wait until she plays t2 matches before making useless arguments that won't answer anything

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Ballsamolee [#19]

What has he done in tier 3 tho? What made him good enough for him to get picked up? Give me the answer.

Icy was a prominent member of the EG reserve team, who basically trained EG to winning champs… so with that and likely some connections here and there it made him a good choice for g2

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heavensentsaint [#14]

😭😭 these mfs r asking to drop cryo zekken for fl0rescent

no ones saying that dummy

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Ballsamolee [#22]

So icy was a shit player before he was in tier 1. Got it.

icy was on the eg reserve roster and helped them do their 10 man scrim fetish

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her team sucks and mel is a fraud who was never close to deserving a tier 1 spot (like those reports said that one time) but her and sarah are tier 2 level for sure. maybe sarah lower but still theyre both at the level of a spot there

she needs to join a coed team cause idk if theres any good NA gc igls who can bring her and sarah to tier 2

maybe they need coaching or something but i rlly think those 2 and maybe alexis should leave the others behind

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It’s just really the fact her team gets dominated by no name tier 2/3 teams, it’s just not a good look even if she has stellar performances which really does suck 🤷‍♂️

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heavensentsaint [#27]

icy was on the eg reserve roster and helped them do their 10 man scrim fetish

Okay that is honestly valid, but you are deflecting my question about runi and jakee.

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nobody___100 [#8]

demon1 failing in NRG is ch0t's fault, but people still call him lemon1, diamond1, cuck1, etc
people are braindead

what is blud yappin abt

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laifu [#26]

no ones saying that dummy

There literally were lmao. Look back at people saying to drop Asuna for Florescent and shit like that.

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lollollollol [#32]

There literally were lmao. Look back at people saying to drop Asuna for Florescent and shit like that.

lets be very clear
cryo and zekken clear asuna by a light year

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laifu [#15]

Exhibit A: flor vs Turtle Troop https://www.vlr.gg/281432/turtle-troop-vs-version1-knights-monthly-gauntlet-2023-october-sf

Sure, her team isn't successful and it's a team game but it's just pure bias at this point saying that she can't compete in challengers

exactly, the only person who outfragged her in that match is moose and he's now in tier 1

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kanyefan4238173 [#28]

her team sucks and mel is a fraud who was never close to deserving a tier 1 spot (like those reports said that one time) but her and sarah are tier 2 level for sure. maybe sarah lower but still theyre both at the level of a spot there

she needs to join a coed team cause idk if theres any good NA gc igls who can bring her and sarah to tier 2

maybe they need coaching or something but i rlly think those 2 and maybe alexis should leave the others behind

fns needs to marry up and have a daughter

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Ballsamolee [#30]

Okay that is honestly valid, but you are deflecting my question about runi and jakee.

For runi he was a good player for Soniqs(miss them sm) which did pretty good in tier 2, and that’s prolly why he got the t1 spot, idk about Jakee

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heavensentsaint [#27]

icy was on the eg reserve roster and helped them do their 10 man scrim fetish

florescent scrims against franchise teams brotha

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nobody___100 [#35]

fns needs to marry up and have a daughter

mel is the fns of gc (only aim-wise)

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why is such a mid player getting discussed so often?
let’s see her in some real comp before we start making threads about him/her or whatever being in t1

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tuffybass
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nobody___100 [#33]

lets be very clear
cryo and zekken clear asuna by a light year

buddy hasn't been watching any matches recently

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CanadianLegend [#36]

For runi he was a good player for Soniqs(miss them sm) which did pretty good in tier 2, and that’s prolly why he got the t1 spot, idk about Jakee

Runi never made it into tier 2. However, my main argument is that florescent doesn't suck like what these people say.

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OkOkay [#31]

what is blud yappin abt

example of team being mid and people calling good players bad as a result

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Ballsamolee
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1phnxe [#39]

why is such a mid player getting discussed so often?
let’s see her in some real comp before we start making threads about him/her or whatever being in t1

I never said shit about her being in tier 1. I am just saying that she won't be fried in tier 2.

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nobody___100 [#33]

lets be very clear
cryo and zekken clear asuna by a light year

nah asuna is better than cryo, cryo has been lowkey mid after the fut game

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lollollollol [#32]

There literally were lmao. Look back at people saying to drop Asuna for Florescent and shit like that.

All 10 of your comments on vlr are just misogynistic towards SR congrats

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lollollollol
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nobody___100 [#33]

lets be very clear
cryo and zekken clear asuna by a light year

And Asuna clears Florescent by several thousand light years lmao. And yet people were saying to drop him for Flor because he was doing bad against actual T1 pros like Aspas compared to Flor farming no name T4 gc players

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Ballsamolee [#41]

Runi never made it into tier 2. However, my main argument is that florescent doesn't suck like what these people say.

Soniq is a tier 2 team? What are you waffling about, also I don’t think no one (expect haters) think that fluorescent sucks

Correction: Soniqs was a TIER 1 team during the time Runi played due to 2022 being such a weird playoff system

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nobody___100 [#11]

i kinda agree, if she has a tier 1 system, I think she can play tier 1 level, but she's stuck in GC which is a tier 3 system at best

yea, i lwk think her and sarah could do well in tier 2 just like bob and katsumi, branching out to coed would do both of them so well

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nobody___100 [#33]

lets be very clear
cryo and zekken clear asuna by a light year

asuna clears zekken

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Florescent is really really skilled. But Keep in mind talent isn't always what teams are looking for. I played with her on my team in a comp game a little while back and she hard carried, but she rarely communicated at all and the few times she did were kind of toxic. I'm not saying shes always like this, but if she has an ego it could be a turn off for teams since t1 requires insane amounts of communication and team chemistry.

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CanadianLegend [#47]

Soniq is a tier 2 team? What are you waffling about, also I don’t think no one (expect haters) think that fluorescent sucks

Correction: Soniqs was a TIER 1 team during the time Runi played due to 2022 being such a weird playoff system

I'm sorry but when runi was on soniqs, he was never in tier 2. However, at one point I would consider them tier 2.

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Ballsamolee [#51]

I'm sorry but when runi was on soniqs, he was never in tier 2. However, at one point I would consider them tier 2.

Your right he was playing during tier 1 NA Challengers(Which directly qualifies to LANs), Soniq is a tier 1/2 team I just don’t understand why you don’t think so?

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Penqu1N [#50]

Florescent is really really skilled. But Keep in mind talent isn't always what teams are looking for. I played with her on my team in a comp game a little while back and she hard carried, but she rarely communicated at all and the few times she did were kind of toxic. I'm not saying shes always like this, but if she has an ego it could be a turn off for teams since t1 requires insane amounts of communication and team chemistry.

Okay this makes sense. I would see why this would be a turn off, but the people hating on her don't even know about her personality. They are just hating to hate.

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CanadianLegend [#52]

Your right he was playing during tier 1 NA Challengers(Which directly qualifies to LANs), Soniq is a tier 1/2 team I just don’t understand why you don’t think so?

wtf are u talking about. oh 2022 but why u talking about 2022 and not 2023

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Ballsamolee
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CanadianLegend [#52]

Your right he was playing during tier 1 NA Challengers(Which directly qualifies to LANs), Soniq is a tier 1/2 team I just don’t understand why you don’t think so?

Fuck thats my fault. You won.

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heavensentsaint [#44]

nah asuna is better than cryo, cryo has been lowkey mid after the fut game

Eh. Cryo is usually better imo. Although Asuna is way more aggro so his team can trade him

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lollollollol [#56]

Eh. Cryo is usually better imo. Although Asuna is way more aggro so his team can trade him

yeah cryo plays too passively so idk, asunas gekko is miles ahead still

asuna just runs it down and gets 1

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nobody___100
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tuffybass [#40]

buddy hasn't been watching any matches recently

buddy didn't watch any 100t games before boostio

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insane player, extremely low tier (compared to t1/t2) league. but shes only in gc bcus its smartewr than t2. "she needs to build experience and show her worth in t2 though" why do that when she has a bigger name and reward in gc?

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dort [#49]

asuna clears zekken

d0rt as usual, making NRG fans look bad

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Ballsamolee [#53]

Okay this makes sense. I would see why this would be a turn off, but the people hating on her don't even know about her personality. They are just hating to hate.

Yeah a lot of people hate just to hate. I think she needs to join a Tier 2 team before she can make it into T1.

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Vegaaa [#59]

insane player, extremely low tier (compared to t1/t2) league. but shes only in gc bcus its smartewr than t2. "she needs to build experience and show her worth in t2 though" why do that when she has a bigger name and reward in gc?

She most definitely wants to play in tier 2, but the reason why she is still playing in gc is for the reasons you gave and the fact that she never was part of a team in which she didn't have to carry.

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OkOkay [#54]

wtf are u talking about. oh 2022 but why u talking about 2022 and not 2023

Because the guy runi got the job in 2023 because of his efforts in 2022?! You realize he got hired right after lock/in when the yey incident happened

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i feel like ppl overhype flor because flor is like one of the best gc players and some people are just kinda biased towards gc players and want some sort of gc representation in tier 1

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Penqu1N [#61]

Yeah a lot of people hate just to hate. I think she needs to join a Tier 2 team before she can make it into T1.

actually good take, half the people here are braindead

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smthlikeyou11 [#64]

i feel like ppl overhype flor because flor is like one of the best gc players and some people are just kinda biased towards gc players and want some sort of gc representation in tier 1

more people are biased against GC players, and nobody is hyping up anybody other than flor, because nobody other than flor has been shown to be outstanding in GC

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smthlikeyou11 [#64]

i feel like ppl overhype flor because flor is like one of the best gc players and some people are just kinda biased towards gc players and want some sort of gc representation in tier 1

Honestly yeah idk about how she will perform in tier 1, but I am just saying that she isn't a tier 3928328932832 player and has the tier 3 capabilities to hold their own in at least tier 2. Bob was worse than flor in tier 2, but she still managed to be the best on her tier 2 team.

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smthlikeyou11 [#64]

i feel like ppl overhype flor because flor is like one of the best gc players and some people are just kinda biased towards gc players and want some sort of gc representation in tier 1

She definitely needs to go to t2 first, and if she's good enough, then tier 1. Let's not forget that their are High School Teams in HSEL that have beat some GC teams. Not all of them, and I'm not saying GC is easy, but some teams aren't really that good.

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nobody___100 [#58]

buddy didn't watch any 100t games before boostio

watched every game, using games from last year to make an argument about now is just stupid

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nobody___100
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tuffybass [#69]

watched every game, using games from last year to make an argument about now is just stupid

asuna ain't a good player without boostio is my point
potter made c0m look good

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