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2 map ban rule

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#1
BlackInDiamond

forget about this

#2
OnlyHereCosBored
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Yeah I don’t really like it but it is what it is

#3
ycstrip
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geng had 2 map bans when sen beat them tho

#4
Injonc
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??? it's not new

#5
UkieVAL
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  1. its not new, its been in this game for a while
  2. gen.g and other teams had this advantage and still lost in finals before
#6
Anti-fakenews
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do you even watch the event my guy?

It has been like this over 2.5+ years.

fnatic won against it in emea finals, that was the latest one in one of many such incidents.

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Mortadelo
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No, many teams have won from lower

#8
edgno1fan2
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need some reward for upper bracket.

in fighting games its more brutal, where the player coming from losers needs to win two sets in a row.

#9
H0r0sha
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The Team has to have some Advantage to go directly into the Grand Final without losing.

#10
G2thelion
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UkieVAL [#5]
  1. its not new, its been in this game for a while
  2. gen.g and other teams had this advantage and still lost in finals before

other teams xd

you mean PRX

#11
Sir_Johnny123
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I think teams should ban 1 map each and then Upper bracket picks the first two maps

#12
ZettGundam
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GENG PRX LOUD all had that advantage and still lost

#13
Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr
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G2thelion [#10]

other teams xd

you mean PRX

Bro forgot Madrid

#14
Soddalele
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G2thelion [#10]

other teams xd

you mean PRX

fnatic in regional also did it

#15
notnormally
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In the double map ban era, lower bracket team are 4-2. So maybe TH is just worse than GenG

#16
G2thelion
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Currently more teams have lost with that advantage

#17
Subreezy
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okay but

  1. Copenhagen 2022
  2. Champs 2023
  3. Madrid 2024
  4. Reykjavik 2022

all won by the lower bracket team

#18
EyeZick
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More teams have won from lower bracket than upper bracket this is cope

#19
Noodle
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Results of international matches with a 2-map ban advantage:

  • LOUD 0-3 OPTC
  • PRX 2-3 FPX
  • LOUD 3-1 OPTC
  • FNC 3-0 EG
  • PRX 1-3 EG
  • GEN 2-3 SEN

The team with the ban advantage has only won 2/6 times.

#20
ALEISTER
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2 map ban + first pick is kinda crazy ngl

#21
notnormally
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G2thelion [#10]

other teams xd

you mean PRX

Loud and GenG also lost?

#22
BerZergg
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they should get more advantage for upper bracket imo

#23
145512
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ycstrip [#3]

geng had 2 map bans when sen beat them tho

that's because geng choked both icebox and bind

#24
darkhorse08
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ALEISTER [#20]

2 map ban + first pick is kinda crazy ngl

Yeah, too much for being flawless throughout the playoffs no?

#25
acekianno
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Bro you just gotta pick advantages Twice to beat or +1 map already or just map pick advantage

#26
nihso
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2022 and beyond has had the 2 map ban rule.
Most teams that has had 2 map bans in lan grand final lost.
LOUD lost to OPTIC with 2 map bans
PRX lost to FPX with 2 map bans
LOUD won vs OPTIC 2 map bans
Lock in didn't have it
FNATIC won vs EG with 2 map bans
PRX lost to EG with 2 map bans
GEN G lost to SEN with 2 map bans
2 wins with 2 map bans
4 losses with 2 map bans
Safe to say more seems like a con than a pro coming from upper

#27
Cosmic_
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BerZergg [#22]

they should get more advantage for upper bracket imo

100%

#28
DrudaL
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prx lose twice with 2 bans

#29
UkieVAL
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G2thelion [#10]

other teams xd

you mean PRX

i didnt deny we did in 2023, im more mentioning Gen.G cause they are the most recent example in an international event, keep trying little bro lol

#30
kapteN
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nihso [#26]

2022 and beyond has had the 2 map ban rule.
Most teams that has had 2 map bans in lan grand final lost.
LOUD lost to OPTIC with 2 map bans
PRX lost to FPX with 2 map bans
LOUD won vs OPTIC 2 map bans
Lock in didn't have it
FNATIC won vs EG with 2 map bans
PRX lost to EG with 2 map bans
GEN G lost to SEN with 2 map bans
2 wins with 2 map bans
4 losses with 2 map bans
Safe to say more seems like a con than a pro coming from upper

Just because more teams have won despite not getting any bans doesn't mean it's a disadvantage for the team getting the bans lmao what. 0 logic, definitely not "safe to say"

#31
Nbs
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Having a '2nd life' in playoffs is still better than having an extra ban in grand finals

Originally, in some old esports, it used to be even harsher for lower bracket finalists. Back then if you would come from lower bracket, you would need to legitimately win 2 series vs the upper bracket grand finalist, because every team could lose at least once and continue, even if it was grand finals

#32
LeCat
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nihso [#26]

2022 and beyond has had the 2 map ban rule.
Most teams that has had 2 map bans in lan grand final lost.
LOUD lost to OPTIC with 2 map bans
PRX lost to FPX with 2 map bans
LOUD won vs OPTIC 2 map bans
Lock in didn't have it
FNATIC won vs EG with 2 map bans
PRX lost to EG with 2 map bans
GEN G lost to SEN with 2 map bans
2 wins with 2 map bans
4 losses with 2 map bans
Safe to say more seems like a con than a pro coming from upper

More like prx singlehandedly skewed the statistic lmao

#33
TriQo
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new rule? have you watched any VCT internationals before?

#34
Eto_OwO
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Don't forget that the team that advanced from the lower bracket has already exercised their "crazy" right to lose once.

#35
gliss
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Only if the team in the upper bracket loses 3-2, the team in the upper bracket can choose a map and play BO1 and the winner is the winner.
This is an irregular BO6.

#36
BlackInDiamond
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How to delete this forum bro

#37
PP12123213123
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Noodle [#19]

Results of international matches with a 2-map ban advantage:

  • LOUD 0-3 OPTC
  • PRX 2-3 FPX
  • LOUD 3-1 OPTC
  • FNC 3-0 EG
  • PRX 1-3 EG
  • GEN 2-3 SEN

The team with the ban advantage has only won 2/6 times.

PACIFIC ruin this stat lmao

#38
m1kah
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OnlyHereCosBored [#2]

Yeah I don’t really like it but it is what it is

It’s better than being up 1-0 by default

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