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"Mickey Mouse"

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#1
Iquickscopei

"Masters Madrid was a fraud masters"
"Lock//In was "fraudulent"

Literally every tournament in basically any sport/esport can be considered "fraudulent" if you look at it long enough.

#2
AlexSMTxx
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It's simple tbh, so basically if the team you support didn't go to "X" tournament you just call it Mickey Mouse and go on and live a happy life, and hope ur team makes it to the next big event.

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Psion
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the only logic for which i can justify a tournament being a fraud is if the international event itself has a bad format, so that leaves........ Lock\in for people to call a fraud

#4
Iquickscopei
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Masters Rey 1 had no group stage
Masters Berlin had single elim playoffs
Champs had single elim playoffs
Loud could have won Masters Copenhagen if they were placed in group B instead of A
Champs 2023 if FNC played anyone besides Loud they would have won
Navi could have made playoffs but got placed in the group of death
Madrid ...

#5
Psion
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  1. yes because there were 10 teams, they did the best with the amount of teams they were given
  2. so? i think double elim is much better but this is an opinion, not an objective fact. both have their strengths and weaknesses
  3. same as above
  4. this has nothing to do with the format, being 2 groups of 4 and the #1 seeds go straight to playoffs
  5. again, same as above, but with champs format this time
  6. again, same as above
#6
Iquickscopei
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  1. Why would they make it ten teams
  2. yeah so why is lock in considered bad
  3. 4 5 6. if format allowed for "team a" to be at "position b" then they would have won so that is a bad format because it could have been formatted as "team a" at "position a" Same reason why people call Madrid Mickey

#7
Psion
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1, i don't know lol, i concede on this one
3, womp fucking womp thats called luck of the draw, its going to be like that at every event. its literally best case scenario as a format, some teams get fucked over because of that what are you gonna do. just beat who you play
2, because it didn't have a double elim group stage like champs or berlin 2021 had. you used no group stage as something bad abt reykavjik 2021 but its suddenly ok at lock\in? double standard much

#8
Psion
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additionally, it only took 5 games AT LOCK\IN to win.
this is the same amount of games it took to win madrid, a tournament with 75% less teams

#9
Iquickscopei
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I'm not trying to prove it is actually a fraud just that it every tourney has a case to be a "fraud"

#15
Psion
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ah ok.
but every other tournament has substantial things going for it.
every other event has double elim at some point at the very least, so i don't have to say how other tournaments have things going for them
Lock\in has basically nothing
tied for least games to win out of any event besides reykjavik 2021 while having double the teams of the next biggest event, and this isn't even including domestic matches where every other event would trounce Lock\in in games required to win
no double elim group stage (GenG could've been the 5th best team for all we know) or playoffs (in reykjavik 2021's case since it had no group stage
so many pointless matches (who the fuck wants to watch 2023 KC vs 2023 FPX)

#10
Revlo
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champs 2023 or 2022 wasnt fraudulent

#12
Iquickscopei
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Champs 2023 if FNC played anyone besides Loud they would have won
Navi could have made playoffs but got placed in the group of death
This is fraudulent

Champs 2022 If Xset's turret did not break they could have won the tourney. They remade it but lost to Fpx because they had a bad day. They were close to beating optic and so they could haev actually won the tourney if the turret did not bug out.
This is fradulent

#17
Enjoyment_Enjoyer
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this is all just copium and a bunch of what ifs

#11
envyz
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valorant has too many factors than a game like CSGO, it takes way more time to prep for val than CSGO in CS you've been doing the same execs since 2012

#13
ALoKi007
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Just ignore those douche bags. Why create a thread to tell them you got offended

#14
FreedomFighter
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Nah madrid was mickey mouse, Shanghai first real tournament of 2024

#16
beaver_man
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Madrid = Michael mouse tournament

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