c0m haters | VLR.gg

#1

Manaphy

I don't know how people are blaming him for this loss when the map that 55% of the -20 came from a map win in which he was playing retake a lot. If you look at the both map losses, he literally had better a better or equal +/- than his teammates. -20 is crazy but given the context it's not as wild as people make it seem given every other thing he does for the team.

#2

number1_cned_hater

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c0m ain't the problem but he just looks so shaky now. He always won his 1v1s on eg, he can't seem to do that anymore

#3

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no one is blaming him specifically for the loss its just undeniable that the team would have a better chance at winning it all with a better initiator

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Manaphy

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You have brought up his plus minus twice in two different threads and I haven't seen you critique any other player. Also, I assume this Initiator can mid round, throw good util, and bring vibes. The only person who I can see doing that would be nzr because he has chem with the team and he's individually better than c0m when it comes to mechanics.

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its not only his plus minus that is bad its his rating too. the only agent he has a positive rating on is skye and i can guarantee that is because he presses c and holds left click on aspas.

im not saying hes the only problem this team has, and i know that stats dont give the full picture of a players value but its is undeniable that if he got more impactful frags a lot of those rounds couldve gone better on icebox.

all the other aspects of this team are in no way perfect but at a certain point the stats are just really bad. he def has potential, im not saying he should be cut, hes just not doing what he needs to rn for lev

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vlr rating favors map wins and on Bind he has the highest rating on his team. On Icebox he's 3rd and has a better plus minus than two of his teammates. Again, him going -11 on a map win would tank his rating and make it look worse than he realistically did.

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? better initiator that can midround and do what hes doing for the team right now? C0M is not a stats player and never has been but he needed to fill the gap for NZR who has been known to midround and help out the team when it came to morale and solidify the system. C0m got picked up because he is able to do the exact same albeit trading out the fragging for a decently more clutch player.

Lembo had hinted it was Kingg and Mazino that wanted nzr gone, if this turns out to be true there was no other proven player that could've been better than C0M.

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ah we played like shit but ill always back the players until they consistently prove they aren't doing better. who cares what other ppl think lev are gonna bounceback in the lower round

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Conceit

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Yeah this, Lev was just the worse team today, they can bounce back

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Nzr >>>> cUm

#11

DSGFan

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When does nzr play next?

#14

hunkkz

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in the same week as cUm, Lev will not beat Kru

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Conceit

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I mean, they would be playing in the same week regardless of if Lev beats Kru

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DSGFan

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that's odd, I don't see nzr playing this week.

#10

Chaloopa

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He's clearly the weak link in the team. Even if it isn't his fault, having good mechanics can just bail out ur team in certain situations and it feels like C0M doesn't ever have that in him. Look at Leo man, this guy single handedly won Fnatic their last 2 matches. If LEV had a leo on their team, they would be frying rn.

#12

Manaphy

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I agree I think his mechs are a problem as well, but I don't like that people can just look at the stats and instantly come to the conclusion that he was the problem for this loss.

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DSGFan

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Manaphy you are 100% right about c0m. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise