Bro is only one of 7 players in the whole of vct who has won 2 trophies and yet everyone still hates on the poor guy
the team lost 3 games
lev was a close as u can get and aspas had to carry for them to win
eg was close but they fucking threw so hard
loud was the only convincing one
the team does not need to kick anyone they are the major winners for a reason
they play the exact same map pool every game (lotus, bind, sunset, icebox ) and have played the most games out of every team itw and had no time to practice inbetween madrid and kickoff
over off season they need to change comps on some maps (breeze and lotus being the main ones) get new strats and come into split 2 being a different sentinels like they did coming into kickoff and madrid
TM06Nick [#6]Bro is the most clutch player on the team besides Johnqt and he's seemingly been playing sick (mask on) ? the past few weeks
Yeah he had dental surgery
TheAceGamer30 [#2]Fr bro is not even bad, he just isn’t a consistent fragger . His utility is amazing it deserves credit
thats true, but thats 50% of the game, the other 50 shows up every 1 in 5 games.
even his Net Ratings, Bottom half On Skye, Bottom 3 On Fade, and middle on Gekko.
yall can say his util is amazing , but having the likes of sacy and zellsis relies heavily on the other 3 to frag out and if they aren't there just gonna lose.
Shawn23 [#9]thats true, but thats 50% of the game, the other 50 shows up every 1 in 5 games.
even his Net Ratings, Bottom half On Skye, Bottom 3 On Fade, and middle on Gekko.
yall can say his util is amazing , but having the likes of sacy and zellsis relies heavily on the other 3 to frag out and if they aren't there just gonna lose.
I mean the utility is set up for the other 3 to perform good
TheAceGamer30 [#10]I mean the utility is set up for the other 3 to perform good
and that’s why this team has already peaked and won’t improve.
Shawn23 [#11]and that’s why this team has already peaked and won’t improve.
What makes them not be able to improve ?. They have time off to work on all their problems. Roster moves is not a solution especially this is a team that has won an event like making a roster move would be the dumbest move
I remember Sacy being an insane fragging initiator wayyy back on Vikings and then Loud ofc. Comparable to how D4v41 or N4RRATE are playing now. I feel like we haven’t seen that side of him so much since he left Loud. That being said, I think he was pretty much a perma sova bc that was the astra meta, so developing flexibility has been important for him. These days, he’s still a world class player but the fragging is definitely less consistent.
zardinez [#13]I remember Sacy being an insane fragging initiator wayyy back on Vikings and then Loud ofc. Comparable to how D4v41 or N4RRATE are playing now. I feel like we haven’t seen that side of him so much since he left Loud. That being said, I think he was pretty much a perma sova bc that was the astra meta, so developing flexibility has been important for him. These days, he’s still a world class player but the fragging is definitely less consistent.
His Skye used to be horrendous, now it’s actually good, his geeko is decent and his fade and sova are still world class
Rey55 [#4]A team with aspas and less won over a team with y0y and FNS. What a surprise!
Bait or you weren’t watching the game back then. Yay was the only guy who could reliably diff Aspas and Less in duels, and FNS was the only IGL who could outcall Saadhak (think the 10-2 side on Ascent in masters 1 2022, back when NOBODY beat Loud on Ascent).
There’s a reason El Classico was so frequent.
TheAceGamer30 [#14]His Skye used to be horrendous, now it’s actually good, his geeko is decent and his fade and sova are still world class
Yeah he’s pretty inflexible when it come to fragging out in other roles
zardinez [#16]Yeah he’s pretty inflexible when it come to fragging out in other roles
He’s doing better than last year for sure, people just like scapegoating him since he isn’t the main shooter for team
Zerphyr1 [#17]idk if this is just an unconcious bias but I haven't seen any hate threads about sacy on vlr is quite some time. From memory he has the same amount as almost every other player on sentinels apart from johnqt.
I’m outta start a JohnQT hate thread, reality is that he’s a mid IGL with exceptional mechanical skills. Think ANGE1/Saadhak with less brain more aim. But that’s not the part that pisses me off, he reminds me a lot of BlameF, always last alive, baiting his team in a 1vX situation. He’s the Sentinel typically so I get why he needs to stay alive, but honestly it’s so repetitive with how many times he’s the last one alive, and padding his stats.
YaoMung [#19]I’m outta start a JohnQT hate thread, reality is that he’s a mid IGL with exceptional mechanical skills. Think ANGE1/Saadhak with less brain more aim. But that’s not the part that pisses me off, he reminds me a lot of BlameF, always last alive, baiting his team in a 1vX situation. He’s the Sentinel typically so I get why he needs to stay alive, but honestly it’s so repetitive with how many times he’s the last one alive, and padding his stats.
0/8
TheAceGamer30 [#20]0/8
What is bro even waffling about, if anything ANGE1 can't even hold a candle to saadhak and hasn't even beaten him. Also what is the logic behind if FPX were there they would have won, if they were so good why didn't they win champs 22 or even be in the finals for that matter. NAVI was dogshit in 23 whereas john's career in T1 has just started
TheAceGamer30 [#12]What makes them not be able to improve ?. They have time off to work on all their problems. Roster moves is not a solution especially this is a team that has won an event like making a roster move would be the dumbest move
theres no improving atp, they had the advantage with the early team work and prep and thats 100% honesty. but everything they did 2 months ago doesn't work at all ( probably just heavy anti stratting ) even in both series losses to Lev and EG its the same person at the bottom of the leaderboard. with a neg rating.
id rather have someone with MID Util usage but a High KDR then someone with VERY good util but cant shoot a building with a RPG on at 12 PM On a Saturday.
TheAceGamer30 [#2]Fr bro is not even bad, he just isn’t a consistent fragger . His utility is amazing it deserves credit
everyone's utility is "amazing" nowadays and he's not even playing the harder initiators for utility (kayo, breach). there's many better initiators out there
Shawn23 [#9]thats true, but thats 50% of the game, the other 50 shows up every 1 in 5 games.
even his Net Ratings, Bottom half On Skye, Bottom 3 On Fade, and middle on Gekko.
yall can say his util is amazing , but having the likes of sacy and zellsis relies heavily on the other 3 to frag out and if they aren't there just gonna lose.
5 star players dont make a team
Sentinels wouldve lost to loud in master and kick off without his clutches, he is a support players, many of zekken kills comes with he setting him up.
Zerphyr1 [#17]idk if this is just an unconcious bias but I haven't seen any hate threads about sacy on vlr is quite some time. From memory he has the same amount as almost every other player on sentinels apart from johnqt.
Every SEN game there is hate on sacy even when he is top fragging people are hating the way he shoots LUL
Xabrusca [#24]5 star players dont make a team
Sentinels wouldve lost to loud in master and kick off without his clutches, he is a support players, many of zekken kills comes with he setting him up.
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Xabrusca [#24]5 star players dont make a team
Sentinels wouldve lost to loud in master and kick off without his clutches, he is a support players, many of zekken kills comes with he setting him up.
wow so let’s focus on his highlights and not the 1v1s he just completely whiffs on. 1-3 clutches per 3 games not that great.
Xabrusca [#25]Every SEN game there is hate on sacy even when he is top fragging people are hating the way he shoots LUL
https://www.vlr.gg/search/threads/?q=sacy&index=titles&sort=replied
everytime sacy does bad there are hate threads.
https://www.vlr.gg/search/threads/?q=zekken&index=titles&sort=replied
same with zekken and legit every other sentinels member.
I am not saying there is no hate but I find almost every player apart from johnqt is getting similar levels of hate proportionate to their fans