Maybe if riot

Didnt just nerf viable agents the game would be more fun.
Like give a buff to neon or iso to spice things up, would give more variability in team comps and make the game more fun to play

There is viable and there is op let's leave pro play out of it for a sec (which these agents also are op on) you can't tell me it's fun playing against cypher and viper

there is new patch coming soon with a lot of duelist changes

idek you can argue that the changes were too much but there is no doubt those agents needed nerfs, vipers pick rate was insane as was cyphers

Agx192 [#2]

There is viable and there is op let's leave pro play out of it for a sec (which these agents also are op on) you can't tell me it's fun playing against cypher and viper

Bros dissapointed that he has to consider his team's composition when facing a cypher 💀

Mozzarellas [#4]

Bros dissapointed that he has to consider his team's composition when facing a cypher 💀

Just use yoru in cyher maps

Mozzarellas [#4]

Bros dissapointed that he has to consider his team's composition when facing a cypher 💀

Bro think teammates listen in ranked ☠️

qwertyuiop123456 [#5]

Just use yoru in cyher maps

What happens if you nerf Cypher to be unplayable? BOOM, no more Yoru counterpick??? Everything goes back to the stale same 5 characters in all maps

Ailed [#3]

there is new patch coming soon with a lot of duelist changes

idek you can argue that the changes were too much but there is no doubt those agents needed nerfs, vipers pick rate was insane as was cyphers

wait fr? patch got leaked?

Mozzarellas [#4]

Bros dissapointed that he has to consider his team's composition when facing a cypher 💀

its solo q not vct stop smoking

Agx192 [#6]

Bro think teammates listen in ranked ☠️

Lets get riot to nerf cypher cause low elo lobbies refuse to pick agents that counter him👍

Akukko [#7]

What happens if you nerf Cypher to be unplayable? BOOM, no more Yoru counterpick??? Everything goes back to the stale same 5 characters in all maps

mf we're talking about solo q there has never been a time in the history of valorant where 5 agents every map has ever been a thing for solo q stop coping

Ailed [#3]

there is new patch coming soon with a lot of duelist changes

idek you can argue that the changes were too much but there is no doubt those agents needed nerfs, vipers pick rate was insane as was cyphers

just because an agent has a high pick rate doesn't make it need a nerf. as the OP was saying, it could be just as feasible that other agents have a buff. furthermore, it's also such a logical jump to suggest that a high pick rate is an inherently bad thing. in some ways, having some consistent agents allows teams to experiment and learn individual different agents to compare against non-mirrored by 1 agent comps.

number1_cned_hater [#8]

wait fr? patch got leaked?

kinda

https://twitter.com/ValorantUpdated/status/1785672756761157814

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#11]

mf we're talking about solo q there has never been a time in the history of valorant where 5 agents every map has ever been a thing for solo q stop coping

he's exaggerating but the point still stands no? i happen to like the current meta, and don't think viper or cypher needed to be nerfed this much. look at what happened to Jett, she just ended up being replaced by maximum two agents. hardly a diversification.

wiki [#14]

he's exaggerating but the point still stands no? i happen to like the current meta, and don't think viper or cypher needed to be nerfed this much. look at what happened to Jett, she just ended up being replaced by maximum two agents. hardly a diversification.

MF there is no meta in solo q. jett gets played every practically single game she never got replaced. majority of my games dont have a viper unless its icebox or breeze. half my games dont even have cypher. people are just mad to be mad.

wiki [#12]

just because an agent has a high pick rate doesn't make it need a nerf. as the OP was saying, it could be just as feasible that other agents have a buff. furthermore, it's also such a logical jump to suggest that a high pick rate is an inherently bad thing. in some ways, having some consistent agents allows teams to experiment and learn individual different agents to compare against non-mirrored by 1 agent comps.

constant buffs is never a good idea in games like these

power creep can become rlly bad if you balance by just bringing up weaker characters instead of nerfing strong ones

Mozzarellas [#10]

Lets get riot to nerf cypher cause low elo lobbies refuse to pick agents that counter him👍

Let's nerf toxic op agents is what I am saying 80% pick rate in pro play for viper and the cypher nerfs isn't that bad

sdgdfdrgdrfgdrgdrfttdhy [#15]

MF there is no meta in solo q. jett gets played every practically single game she never got replaced. majority of my games dont have a viper unless its icebox or breeze. half my games dont even have cypher. people are just mad to be mad.

Thats what a meta literally means...

Agx192 [#17]

Let's nerf toxic op agents is what I am saying 80% pick rate in pro play for viper and the cypher nerfs isn't that bad

I dont think the cypher nerf is bad either but you said unbreakable trips shouldnt be a thing when they're perfectly fine

Ailed [#16]

constant buffs is never a good idea in games like these

power creep can become rlly bad if you balance by just bringing up weaker characters instead of nerfing strong ones

well that's a bit of a strawman - not sure "constant buffs" are required. for viper, it's only really sage which needs to be changed to offer a reasonable alternative, i.e on split, a sage buff would also reduce cypher's monopoly on stall a bit as well.

Mozzarellas [#19]

I dont think the cypher nerf is bad either but you said unbreakable trips shouldnt be a thing when they're perfectly fine

Sorry couldn't find when i said that so you're 🙂