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am i in the wrong in this arguement?

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#1
Lucrix

https://twitter.com/NotLucrix/status/1783966505996300746 im not the only one that thinks this is an overreaction, right?

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kanyefan4238173
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no way am i reading all that

#3
Lucrix
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basically read the original tweet and then this https://twitter.com/NotLucrix/status/1783854431647207680

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Ballsamolee
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Pedo jokes are p weird tbh

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Lucrix
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Okay yeah but it was a joke. also he was flyuh little brother whos 14

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Ballsamolee
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The person who posted that didn't know a 14 year old posted it. either way it is still weird whether it is a joke or not. the 14 year old will learn tho

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Lucrix
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it's weird if the kid actually believes it. sure it's a really bad and edgy joke, but it's just a joke. it was a one time thing and i swear the only reason why this guy is posting this is cuz it's flyuh.

also look at the second image the dude tweeted. theres no way to defend the guys reaction for that

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Ballsamolee
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The second image I agree with you, but pedo jokes are just weird. you should never be supporting that whether or not they actually mean it. either way neither of you are in the wrong.

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Manaphy
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It's a 14yr. They're edgy and quirky so it's likely they'll grow out of it but there should also be people of authority like parents/guardians or teachers or older siblings to keep them in check and prevent them from continuing to be like this in to their late teens or 20s. This is a both sides are right kinda thing.

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it's just a joke. it's edgy sure, but i know ive def made a couple of "if her age is on the clock, shes ready for this cock" jokes before. do i really believe that that's true? hell fucking no. should i seek help? yes, but for other stuff. not for a fucking joke😭

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I agree and this also shouldn't have been posted on twitter but Flyuh and the person that tweeted this to some extent is also in the right that this is crazy behavior. Flyuh his older brother was able to recognize that and as his older brother aka the person of authority in this situation he is there to make sure that just in case he doesn't grow out of it he'll educate him that these jokes are weird. Even if they don't stop now the lesson, he taught him will still remain and eventually the edginess will dissapear hopefully.

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Lucrix
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alright fair. my problem wasnt really the joke, more so the fact that this guy was going INSANE over it and posting it on twitter

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TDQ1
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please seek grass, how you got time to be dropping novels about a joke made in a swiftplay

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Lucrix
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i didn't post it, the other dude did

#9
phm04
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I fell asleep while scrolling up to the original tweet so I can't judge.

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uwukitten
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it's a joke + it's a kid 🗿I agree with you

#15
laeDLaer
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i saw tswiftfan in their name so yeah youre right

#17
Lucrix
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he's known? ive never seen this dude before

#24
fourlvalorant
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no hes saying because they're a taylor swift fan he wont be listening to anything they have to say

#18
EseemedRes1180
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Clout bait tryna use fluyuh nane for traction and it worked

#19
shermie
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its weird af but theyre 14, they should be held accountable but not like thrown pitchforks at em

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Lucrix
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+IT WAS A JOKE AND A ONE TIME THING

#20
cartixuzi
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thats like saying if there wasnt a black person present, saying the n word isn't bad. it's bad regardless if you can't claim the word.

howd it get here 💀

#21
Lucrix
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nah deadass that was insane to me😭

#23
cartixuzi
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w shoutout tho 🔥

#25
rumbledink
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Your arguments are really dumb and I think you're the one making it a bigger deal tbh. All they did was post a screenshot?

#27
Lucrix
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???

he posted cuz it was flyuh. no other way around it.

dude was overreacting hella

#28
Zerphyr1
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you're in the wrong.

1) it is not an over reaction to try and spread light on this situation as it can destroy flyuhs reputation. It's like the wardell situation for me, both flyuh and wardell weren't the ones stream sniping/ being creepy but they were queued with the one doing the stream sniping/ creepy messages; this holds wardell and flyuh as partially responsible for this and especially since they are supposed to be role models. I won't compare them any furthur though as wardells situation was much different as he knew in advance that he was queued with a stream sniper whereas flyuh did not know his brother was going to say those messages. Flyuh also can't just not queue with this guy as it's his younger brother and if flyuh wants a healthy and good relationship with his brother then discontinuing to play with him will negatively impact his relationship.

another reason I don't find this an over reaction is because I would objectively find that it's important to try and get rid of the creepy and weird people in the valorant community and if it's done by trying to expose them in a twitter post then so be it. Just a side note I would find that since flyuh was queued with his brother and it was his brother who was being inappropriate but also in the next swiftplay there was no more creepy stuff being said then I would be heavily inclined to believe that flyuh did nothing wrong in this situation (obviously flyuh could be lying about the fact that this was his brother but I highly doubt this is the case).

2) It seems a lot of your argument was just saying that tswiftfan is over reacting but another one of your popular arguments is that you find the stuff that flyuh brother said to be just a harmless joke and so there is no point in making a massive twitter post about this. I would disagree however as joking about fucking a 12 year old is not a light hearted joke and jokes about pedophilia and this kind of behaviour can normalise or trivialise the serious nature of child abuse, this can be harmful to survivors and society as a whole.

I understand some people like dark humour jokes but pedophilia and fucking someone who is 12 even if the other person is above 14 is illegal and is morally wrong, so joking about it can be seen as condoning illegal and harmful behaviour.

this is why the joke is harmful and has some weight to it.

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I would take some time to consider why it is morally wrong for a 14 year old to be fucking a 12 year old and why this joke is harmful.

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