Yay narrative is false

People are making it seem like it's yay's fault that his team is lost.
Did he decline? Most likely from world champ days but

If demon1 went to bleed, he wouldn't win either.

Bleed look lost as a team,
Hes defo underperforming to his quality, but i think the whole bleed chemistry is all off

demon1 has never made the worst team in a region become the best itw, you right fr. put aspas on a mid team and he wouldn't go +34 on the latest masters winners, no sir.

cartixuzi [#3]

demon1 has never made the worst team in a region become the best itw, you right fr. put aspas on a mid team and he wouldn't go +34 on the latest masters winners, no sir.

if you put demon1 on bleed rn they maybe win one more game than they did so far

demon1 would farm on bleed wtf are you saying. Don't compare y0y to demon1

ive seen this before.. "if (put world class duelists here) went to dsg, he wouldn't win either"

y0y

yay has always been a passive duelist, he can't survive in APAC where everything is chaos tbh

kanyefan4238173 [#4]

if you put demon1 on bleed rn they maybe win one more game than they did so far

yeah but he'd still look good. Like I said, Yay has been giving way too much leeway. Good players still shine in bad teams, Yay is just washed sadly. Not even saying this as a hater its just the truth.

melodymur [#8]

yay has always been a passive duelist, he can't survive in APAC where everything is chaos tbh

“im excited to adapt to the new play style” 💀

obviously all the hate/attention is because he was the best in the world at a point.. for example - stellar went from 100t IGL to turtle troops and lost to a collegiate team and no one cared

melodymur [#8]

yay has always been a passive duelist, he can't survive in APAC where everything is chaos tbh

yet he has farmed apac on international stage.. its his team, not him

Ullyr [#5]

demon1 would farm on bleed wtf are you saying. Don't compare y0y to demon1

demon1 has 4 champs on his team, lets see if he wins a trophy again.. if he cant with this nrg squad then i dont believe he could farm with guys like retla

kskm [#13]

demon1 has 4 champs on his team, lets see if he wins a trophy again.. if he cant with this nrg squad then i dont believe he could farm with guys like retla

Lmao eg was ass till demon1 join wtf are ppl saying. This narrative is so weird. Demon1 was the piece that made eg start dominating. Every team y0y joined for past year and half been losing ...

dapada [#6]

ive seen this before.. "if (put world class duelists here) went to dsg, he wouldn't win either"

You put aspas on that DSG team, DSG would be in franchising rn

kskm [#12]

yet he has farmed apac on international stage.. its his team, not him

??? Beating a playstyle is not the same as being able to adapt and use it

cartixuzi [#3]

demon1 has never made the worst team in a region become the best itw, you right fr. put aspas on a mid team and he wouldn't go +34 on the latest masters winners, no sir.

General

1. This is a team game where initiators set up duelists
2. Coaches set up plays that work (Antistrats play heavily into games, executes play heavily on attack, who plays where, etc)
3. IGLs Mid rounding is crucial ( If a team runs into a stack, everyone would die)

For EG

1. EG had 10 players for scrims so they improved quickly
2. EG had synergy from the year before: same core
3. EG's team wasn't bad but had problems that demon1 fixed : BCJ was not meant to play smokes
4. EG's team almost won against C9 with BCJ : just because EG was the worst doesn't mean it wasn't close
5. Potter shown she put the work in unlike bleed's coach
6. Demon1 might have won the Talon Game (Actually Nvm Bleed's comp on bind and icebox is too bad)

For Lev

1. C0M was said to be a world class initiator when he won champs
2. The gap between Lev and Bleed to be making that comparison is too much

all that

kskm [#11]

obviously all the hate/attention is because he was the best in the world at a point.. for example - stellar went from 100t IGL to turtle troops and lost to a collegiate team and no one cared

thats true but that loss was because their best player had an off day, a rematch would not be pretty for winthrop

Ullyr [#14]

Lmao eg was ass till demon1 join wtf are ppl saying. This narrative is so weird. Demon1 was the piece that made eg start dominating. Every team y0y joined for past year and half been losing ...

eg played 1 game in regular season without him and then lost 3/4 games once he started playing including a loud 13-0. yay with c9 beat prx and lost to drx where he was their best player in lock-in.. there is no way one can compare the likes of Potter, ethan, jawgemo, c0m and the fact that their core remained together and then compare that to DSG and bleed.. lol there is no way u can convince me that yay hasnt been dealt with a bad hand ever since optic..

Iquickscopei [#17]

General

1. This is a team game where initiators set up duelists
2. Coaches set up plays that work (Antistrats play heavily into games, executes play heavily on attack, who plays where, etc)
3. IGLs Mid rounding is crucial ( If a team runs into a stack, everyone would die)

For EG

1. EG had 10 players for scrims so they improved quickly
2. EG had synergy from the year before: same core
3. EG's team wasn't bad but had problems that demon1 fixed : BCJ was not meant to play smokes
4. EG's team almost won against C9 with BCJ : just because EG was the worst doesn't mean it wasn't close
5. Potter shown she put the work in unlike bleed's coach
6. Demon1 might have won the Talon Game (Actually Nvm Bleed's comp on bind and icebox is too bad)

For Lev

1. C0M was said to be a world class initiator when he won champs
2. The gap between Lev and Bleed to be making that comparison is too much

all that

agree lol the kids on this website have too much recency bias and generally forgetful. yay's C9 did beat PRX and even in the loss to DRX - yay was their best player... remember the whole "role clashes" shit and then leaf moves to duelist.. now bro is back on sentinel for G2. Its stupid politics that resulted in yay losing NA tier 1 team and forcing himself to go to DSG to keep competing.. if only he had a team like Sentinels for tenz who kept him through thick and thin, he would farm again.

Al-Mawsil [#16]

??? Beating a playstyle is not the same as being able to adapt and use it

u dont need to adapt to apac playstyle to beat them? also teams like geng and drx are not all that chaotic and have been doing well. so his comment about not being able to survive it is bullshit cause otherwise apac wouldnt have 0 trophies

kskm [#21]

u dont need to adapt to apac playstyle to beat them? also teams like geng and drx are not all that chaotic and have been doing well. so his comment about not being able to survive it is bullshit cause otherwise apac wouldnt have 0 trophies

MB on the adapt comment I thought u were replying to someone else, but have u watched bleed last year? They liked playing aggressive as they were great aimers and got away with running double duelists alot. Why you saying yay's team is at fault (i think they bad and he is not doing anything about it), he's not even his teams best player

Al-Mawsil [#22]

MB on the adapt comment I thought u were replying to someone else, but have u watched bleed last year? They liked playing aggressive as they were great aimers and got away with running double duelists alot. Why you saying yay's team is at fault (i think they bad and he is not doing anything about it), he's not even his teams best player

wasnt that ascension.. completely different level considering apac where prx sometimes gets away with BS just with pure aim so i can imagine tier 2.. also when i say team it is him included.. like saying g2 is shit, doesnt mean individually players arent good just not good enough together synergy wise + i do think some of the players on bleed are nothing special at tier 1 level

kskm [#23]

wasnt that ascension.. completely different level considering apac where prx sometimes gets away with BS just with pure aim so i can imagine tier 2.. also when i say team it is him included.. like saying g2 is shit, doesnt mean individually players arent good just not good enough together synergy wise + i do think some of the players on bleed are nothing special at tier 1 level

oh ok i thought u were on of those people saying yay's team is bad not him, all g then

y0y enjoyers list of excuses:

1. Blurry eyes, next week he farmed
2. wahh wahh put him away from viper roles
3. if only (put any team here) utilize his chamber on certain map
4. his teammates are just bad!!!!

kskm [#20]

agree lol the kids on this website have too much recency bias and generally forgetful. yay's C9 did beat PRX and even in the loss to DRX - yay was their best player... remember the whole "role clashes" shit and then leaf moves to duelist.. now bro is back on sentinel for G2. Its stupid politics that resulted in yay losing NA tier 1 team and forcing himself to go to DSG to keep competing.. if only he had a team like Sentinels for tenz who kept him through thick and thin, he would farm again.

Recency bias is so true, I honestly forgot about the role clash drama last year and leaf switching roles again after capping yay is terribly funny now that you mention it. Hard not to feel bad for the guy