kalayav_n [#2]say that when he wins you a champions, disrespect to aspas's name
People call forsaken the goat and he's never even won a master?
JvRR [#3]People call forsaken the goat and he's never even won a master?
They call him the goat because he has an infinite agent pool, not because of him playing Jett and Raze and owning... Demon1 wasn't the goat until he had won champs, Zekken isn't either til he wins a champs.
kalayav_n [#4]They call him the goat because he has an infinite agent pool, not because of him playing Jett and Raze and owning... Demon1 wasn't the goat until he had won champs, Zekken isn't either til he wins a champs.
lol ok bro starxo is in the GOAT contention then because he won champions ig
Ryszafiell [#7]No way these kids are disrespecting aspas's legacy by comparing Chokken to him.. this is crazy. The names of the game are aspas, Demon1, Less, Shaogetsu. Zekken is a nobody. Call me when he wins a major.
zekken will be on the list after tomorrow
kalayav_n [#6]I guess people just love talking out of they're ass with no intelligence at all, what does starxo have to do in this convo??
say that when he wins you a champions
starxo won champs
yukky [#9]say that when he wins you a champions
starxo won champs
Did he play as a duelist? Did he own in the champs run?
kalayav_n [#6]I guess people just love talking out of they're ass with no intelligence at all, what does starxo have to do in this convo??
your whole point was that forsaken is in the GOAT conversation because he has an infinite champion pool, meanwhile demon1 wasnt in that conversation until he won champions. Your logic being winning champions or having an infinite agent pool is the only gateway to being the GOAT if you only play a few agents? you dont even understand your own fucking logic
Ryszafiell [#7]No way these kids are disrespecting aspas's legacy by comparing Chokken to him.. this is crazy. The names of the game are aspas, Demon1, Less, Shaogetsu. Zekken is a nobody. Call me when he wins a major.
Valorant fans think so one dimensionally LMAOO Yay was considered the goat based on his consistency, he never even won the title but he was considered the GOAT because he was on that level. But i guess you can only be in that conversation if you've won champions now? which is odd because you guys also consider chronicle the goat even though hes never won it.
JvRR [#13]Valorant fans think so one dimensionally LMAOO Yay was considered the goat based on his consistency, he never even won the title but he was considered the GOAT because he was on that level. But i guess you can only be in that conversation if you've won champions now? which is odd because you guys also consider chronicle the goat even though hes never won it.
I don't have Chronicle in my top 5 goat list. But winning trophies only matters if you had impact in winning them. Yay won Masters Reykjavik and other achievements like e-sports player of the year etc. because his performance was that good. What did Zekken win yet? Champions matters the most because it has the most fleshed out format with a lot on the stake which actually tests the team's ability. Demon1 owned Champions 2023. He had a great performance as a rookie in a new team as soon as he started playing. Zekken was absent the entirety of last year.
JvRR [#11]your whole point was that forsaken is in the GOAT conversation because he has an infinite champion pool, meanwhile demon1 wasnt in that conversation until he won champions. Your logic being winning champions or having an infinite agent pool is the only gateway to being the GOAT if you only play a few agents? you dont even understand your own fucking logic
Since you unfortunately lack in the department where it comes to intellectual thinking, I'll give you an example of what I said. In football, the usual ballonDor(MVP OF THE YEAR) winners are typically forwards and or attacking players. This is because of the VALUE of what the attackers bring to their team. In terms of Valorant, even though Forsaken hasn't won any major trophies he can play any agent at a high level making him VALUABLE. This is very different to someone who plays only 1 role like Aspas and demon1 and Starxo who have to prove themselves in other places as to why they might be the "GOAT".
JvRR [#13]Valorant fans think so one dimensionally LMAOO Yay was considered the goat based on his consistency, he never even won the title but he was considered the GOAT because he was on that level. But i guess you can only be in that conversation if you've won champions now? which is odd because you guys also consider chronicle the goat even though hes never won it.
Its a Masters yay did it over a concrete line of time.
JvRR [#11]your whole point was that forsaken is in the GOAT conversation because he has an infinite champion pool, meanwhile demon1 wasnt in that conversation until he won champions. Your logic being winning champions or having an infinite agent pool is the only gateway to being the GOAT if you only play a few agents? you dont even understand your own fucking logic
Demon1 wasn't considered the GOAT bc he just won champs, he did it because he was the best player in the biggest tournament ever that probably also had the highest skill and team ceiling. There's also that narrative with him saving the worst team in Americas and other stuff.
skibidiyesyes [#18]Demon1 wasn't considered the GOAT bc he just won champs, he did it because he was the best player in the biggest tournament ever that probably also had the highest skill and team ceiling. There's also that narrative with him saving the worst team in Americas and other stuff.
I don't get the sentinel fanboys, yes Zekken is in great form, and if he keeps this up and wins champs. He'll probably be the best player of 2024 but these guys are riding as if he didn't get owned by texture last series. He's also only having this performance at a masters event...
kalayav_n [#16]Since you unfortunately lack in the department where it comes to intellectual thinking, I'll give you an example of what I said. In football, the usual ballonDor(MVP OF THE YEAR) winners are typically forwards and or attacking players. This is because of the VALUE of what the attackers bring to their team. In terms of Valorant, even though Forsaken hasn't won any major trophies he can play any agent at a high level making him VALUABLE. This is very different to someone who plays only 1 role like Aspas and demon1 and Starxo who have to prove themselves in other places as to why they might be the "GOAT".
Bro wants to sound like a redditor so bad. Alright bro whatever you say, Aspas even if he didn't win a title being a jett/raze one trick is still and always would've been a VALUABLE player, what makes Aspas considered the greatest isnt the fact that he won champions. It's the fact that he has been consistently the best player in the world. Me saying zekken is a young aspas was meant to indicate that he can reach his level if he keeps this up, it wasn't meant to be taken so literally
wykes [#20]people are really going mad over this, lol.
btw aspas is really young tbf, he is only 20. 👍
I literally said it as a joke but leave it to vlr ig LMAOO
kalayav_n [#19]I don't get the sentinel fanboys, yes Zekken is in great form, and if he keeps this up and wins champs. He'll probably be the best player of 2024 but these guys are riding as if he didn't get owned by texture last series. He's also only having this performance at a masters event...
Brother i was trying to compliment the kids performance i didnt think you guys would genuinely get butthurt over me calling him young aspas and go "ackshually he hasn't won a champions yet" like there hasn't only been 15 players in the history of the game to do it LMAOOO
JvRR [#22]I literally said it as a joke but leave it to vlr ig LMAOO
people really going mad over it bro 💀
Im literally one of the biggest aspas fans in this website and i found it cool.
zekken is really talented, deserves some enjoyment👍
JvRR [#21]Bro wants to sound like a redditor so bad. Alright bro whatever you say, Aspas even if he didn't win a title being a jett/raze one trick is still and always would've been a VALUABLE player, what makes Aspas considered the greatest isnt the fact that he won champions. It's the fact that he has been consistently the best player in the world. Me saying zekken is a young aspas was meant to indicate that he can reach his level if he keeps this up, it wasn't meant to be taken so literally
The fuck is a redditor, secondly Aspas is high value because his performances won Loud champs. It's not complicated, And yes I agree Zekken can be a top duelist if he wins sentinels Champs, otherwise hes just a one even wonder.
kalayav_n [#10]Did he play as a duelist? Did he own in the champs run?
starxo did own at champs
demon1 isnt even the goat idk why youre waffling lol
JvRR [#23]Brother i was trying to compliment the kids performance i didnt think you guys would genuinely get butthurt over me calling him young aspas and go "ackshually he hasn't won a champions yet" like there hasn't only been 15 players in the history of the game to do it LMAOOO
Could've just said it at the beginning, why would u ask "why is forsaken considered a goat". Don't back out after losing pussy.
kalayav_n [#27]Could've just said it at the beginning, why would u ask "why is forsaken considered a goat". Don't back out after losing pussy.
It was a genuine question asking why forsaken is considered the GOAT with no real accolades but other players can't be. No one is backing out or scared of you bro, i just couldn't understand why you read such a simple thread and started balling your fist and defending the honor of aspas 😂
Zeron [#29]people really this heated damn
Last time i compliment a player using another player i stg 💀