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moatz [#7]If true, this is a downgrade for sure. Ppl are hating on neT bc of trashtalk but let's be fr, he still clears this icy guy
Has NeT been rank 1 in ranked recently? No, but Icy have. Icy is more relevant and will provide better results 😤
Elso [#9]Has NeT been rank 1 in ranked recently? No, but Icy have. Icy is more relevant and will provide better results 😤
Bro even dasnerth has hit rank 1 multiple times.
Icy is not relevant lol. He's never even played a game in tier 1.
The highlight of his career was being a reserve for EG where he nvr played 😭
moatz [#11]Bro even dasnerth has hit rank 1 multiple times.
Icy is not relevant lol. He's never even played a game in tier 1.
The highlight of his career was being a reserve for EG where he nvr played 😭
apparently, a lot of na players say that icy has been a demon in scrims, you've played him in scrims to say he's a downgrade to net?
endless1 [#12]apparently, a lot of na players say that icy has been a demon in scrims, you've played him in scrims to say he's a downgrade to net?
Tf? Do I need to play every player in scrims before I can criticize them on vlr now 😭
I'm going off actual games where I've watched him play t2 and t3 with OR and other teams. I've also watched neT play for a while
Based on this statement, I'm gonna assume you've scrimmed every player you've ever criticized?
moatz [#13]Tf? Do I need to play every player in scrims before I can criticize them on vlr now 😭
I'm going off actual games where I've watched him play t2 and t3 with OR and other teams. I've also watched neT play for a while
Based on this statement, I'm gonna assume you've scrimmed every player you've ever criticized?
nah you don't but how do you know if icy is a downgrade if you haven't seen him play in scrims/officials? you're saying hes a downgrade based on what exactly?
endless1 [#14]nah you don't but how do you know if icy is a downgrade if you haven't seen him play in scrims/officials? you're saying hes a downgrade based on what exactly?
I'm going off actual games where I've watched him play t2 and t3 with OR and other teams. I've also watched neT play for a while
Do u really think icy looked better on OR than neT did on TGRD?
moatz [#15]I'm going off actual games where I've watched him play t2 and t3 with OR and other teams. I've also watched neT play for a while
Do u really think icy looked better on OR than neT did on TGRD?
net was surrounded by a way better supporting cast on tgrd than icy on or, also can't compare the stats between the two of them because they played different roles. there's a reason why they're deciding to pick up icy and drop net
Repulse [#16]is this guy any good i cant lie i have never seen anything from him
Yes, I wanted him to replace Asuna on 100T this year but he's getting a opportunity on G2 instead 😄
moatz [#11]Bro even dasnerth has hit rank 1 multiple times.
Icy is not relevant lol. He's never even played a game in tier 1.
The highlight of his career was being a reserve for EG where he nvr played 😭
Do you know how hard it is to get a chance at Tier 1 Valorant?
endless1 [#18]net was surrounded by a way better supporting cast on tgrd than icy on or, also can't compare the stats between the two of them because they played different roles. there's a reason why they're deciding to pick up icy and drop net
idk. i often watch t3 games out of boredom and after watching icy, he's a decent player but nothing special.
i think they just chose him due to a lack of good sentinels in na who aren't already contracted to tier 2 teams
hopefully he proves me wrong though
Elso [#21]Do you know how hard it is to get a chance at Tier 1 Valorant?
Ik it's hard but he's playing since Jan of 2021.
You're telling me this guy is cracked but no tier 1 team even considered trialing him for a few matches in the past 3 yrs?
Many tier 1 players joined after that yet managed to find a team. I'm not saying he's a bad player but I don't think he's anything special that justifies replacing neT with him
madokamagik [#8]Icy duelist Or leaf duelist? Honestly I might prefer icy on duelist
i meannn if they are gonna switch leaf to sentinel then might as well get sonofcar and put him on perma duelist no?
moatz [#22]idk. i often watch t3 games out of boredom and after watching icy, he's a decent player but nothing special.
i think they just chose him due to a lack of good sentinels in na who aren't already contracted to tier 2 teams
hopefully he proves me wrong though
thats what we all said about n4rrate. stop judging someone based off of just stats. g2 made a change because they've hit a rut and needed something new.
moatz [#23]Ik it's hard but he's playing since Jan of 2021.
You're telling me this guy is cracked but no tier 1 team even considered trialing him for a few matches in the past 3 yrs?Many tier 1 players joined after that yet managed to find a team. I'm not saying he's a bad player but I don't think he's anything special that justifies replacing neT with him
which tier 1 teams trialled n4rrate? only nrg. terrible argument
moatz [#11]Bro even dasnerth has hit rank 1 multiple times.
Icy is not relevant lol. He's never even played a game in tier 1.
The highlight of his career was being a reserve for EG where he nvr played 😭
Wasn't the EG reserve roster from last year supposed to also be kinda cracked by the end of the year?
VinceVioVN [#26]which tier 1 teams trialled n4rrate? only nrg. terrible argument
was icy playing like n4rrate in tier 2? also n4rrate first started playing in 2023 and already made his mark.
this just further proves my point that icy joined jan of 2021 and still hasn't done much so on what basis do u think he's gonna be the next n4rrate?
moatz [#11]Bro even dasnerth has hit rank 1 multiple times.
Icy is not relevant lol. He's never even played a game in tier 1.
The highlight of his career was being a reserve for EG where he nvr played 😭
he didnt even play a t2 game 💀💀💀 only t3
VinceVioVN [#25]thats what we all said about n4rrate. stop judging someone based off of just stats. g2 made a change because they've hit a rut and needed something new.
when did anybody say that abt n4rrate? he had good stats lmfao.
literally put mad lions on his back
ik g2 made a change to try something new but all i'm saying is I don't think it's an upgrade
moatz [#28]was icy playing like n4rrate in tier 2? also n4rrate first started playing in 2023 and already made his mark.
this just further proves my point that icy joined jan of 2021 and still hasn't done much so on what basis do u think he's gonna be the next n4rrate?
you are putting words in my mouth. when did I ever say that he's going to be the next n4rrate. my premise was that we don't know unless they are given a shot. Also, from watching n4rrate in his tier2 games, he has moments but by no means was did he show anywhere near what he's showing now from the eye test.
and don't come back and say "so many pros said he's insane!" because many pros say icy is very good too.
moatz [#30]when did anybody say that abt n4rrate? he had good stats lmfao.
literally put mad lions on his backik g2 made a change to try something new but all i'm saying is I don't think it's an upgrade
what do you mean his stats were insane on madlions. out of his tenure on madlions he has 3 stand out games based solely on stats. 2 of which were aginst ORE, which was undeniably one of the weaker teams in the circuit.
please learn how to argue. your premise is souly based on feelings here.
All I am saying is that based on n4rrates stas. he was a good t2 player but plenty of players looked more promising than him in t2. but now that he has a good team he's insane. what is to say Icy isn't similar? Many pros said n4rrate was insane, many say icy is the same. why are we judging so early without any basis?
VinceVioVN [#25]thats what we all said about n4rrate. stop judging someone based off of just stats. g2 made a change because they've hit a rut and needed something new.
huh? no one said anything about n4rrate, all knew he was insane thats why he was trialed by C9 and was abt to join NRG before EG collapsed
endless1 [#34]huh? no one said anything about n4rrate, all knew he was insane thats why he was trialed by C9 and was abt to join NRG before EG collapsed
i was merely giving an example. and yes n4rrate was good in t2 with a bad team. but people are talking about his stats like they were prime tenz on c9. he had 3 stand out (in terms of stats) games on his tenure on madlions, 2 of which were aginst ORE, a very lackluster team last year.
but now we see he's one of the best initiators ITW. why cant we just let icy have a chance on a solid team before saying he's worse than neT? how do we know right now he is infact worse? we are just making shit up now.
VinceVioVN [#33]what do you mean his stats were insane on madlions. out of his tenure on madlions he has 3 stand out games based solely on stats. 2 of which were aginst ORE, which was undeniably one of the weaker teams in the circuit.
please learn how to argue. your premise is souly based on feelings here.
All I am saying is that based on n4rrates stas. he was a good t2 player but plenty of players looked more promising than him in t2. but now that he has a good team he's insane. what is to say Icy isn't similar? Many pros said n4rrate was insane, many say icy is the same. why are we judging so early without any basis?
please learn how to argue.
Go to NA VCL --> Stats. Guess what? N4rrate's the 2nd highest rated duelist after Koalanoob while on a team like Mad Lions
I don't need u to teach me how to argue. I've done plenty of that on this site already.
why are we judging so early without any basis?
I literally said in multiple replies that I am basing this off the tier 2 and 3 games I have watched. I have watched a lot of those and a majority of the time, he was pretty avg. That's why , IN MY OPINION, I don't think he's an upgrade. Also, the initial person I was arguing with was saying that he's good bc he hit rank 1. Like what? Even Dasnerth's done that.
your premise is souly based on feelings here.
I have literally never watched an icy stream in my life. I have no personal feelings against the guy.
moatz [#28]was icy playing like n4rrate in tier 2? also n4rrate first started playing in 2023 and already made his mark.
this just further proves my point that icy joined jan of 2021 and still hasn't done much so on what basis do u think he's gonna be the next n4rrate?
Icy is cold though