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TeoEmil [#5]P sure my lil bro played against you in ranked
shout out to ur bro but i prob destroyed him
destroylonely [#6]shout out to ur bro but i prob destroyed him
Pretty sure he owned you. Was in plat gangy
Potatobrawler8 [#3]cuz emea has ENGGHHH
ENGHHH isn’t even close to international coaches
He got outplayed by alecks and kaplan
Asuna_Yuuki [#8]ENGHHH isn’t even close to international coaches
He got outplayed by alecks and kaplan
Sen has a vibes player Zellsis
M8 has a vibes owner Gotaga
NRG has a vibes coach Chet 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
cboomer [#10]Sen has a vibes player Zellsis
M8 has a vibes owner Gotaga
NRG has a vibes coach Chet 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Chill with this obsession gang.
Asuna_Yuuki [#8]ENGHHH isn’t even close to international coaches
He got outplayed by alecks and kaplan
Why downvote it’s true
Asuna_Yuuki [#8]ENGHHH isn’t even close to international coaches
He got outplayed by alecks and kaplan
enghhh is better than NA tier 2 coaches and thus is able to use n4rrate more efficiently
UmGordoQualquer [#9]practically NA will win all the Ascension, because training against the teams of VCT americas, Brazil and Latam will never have other teams in the VCT and this is sad, I honestly am very sad about it. Better training sessions against the best teams in the Americas
yeah I think Union (fuck pancc and ntk) was their only shot. I hope they find a way to equalize it cus yeah at this rate it probably will be only NA orgs
snowconedeity [#14]yeah I think Union (fuck pancc and ntk) was their only shot. I hope they find a way to equalize it cus yeah at this rate it probably will be only NA orgs
there's only one hope and it's fucking Leo Faria
Potatobrawler8 [#13]enghhh is better than NA tier 2 coaches and thus is able to use n4rrate more efficiently
Still not a top coach in the world imo
Maybe in EMEA
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]Still not a top coach in the world imo
Maybe in EMEA
that is not the point, the point is that enghhh is a better coach than Na tier 2 coaches, therefore he can use n4rrate more effectively. Thus n4rrate has an easier time in eu
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]Still not a top coach in the world imo
Maybe in EMEA
name better coaches than engh?
Potatobrawler8 [#3]cuz emea has ENGGHHH
Engh couldnt do shit in NA tier 2 on tsm. He also had a harder time in tier 2 NA
Ballsamolee [#20]Engh couldnt do shit in NA tier 2 on tsm. He also had a harder time in tier 2 NA
bait used to be believable tbh, engh had a shithouse in tsm to work w, hazed,corey etc? yikes
also been a language barrier issue, if you watched engh's streams a year ago, you realized he spoke lil to non english at all
endless1 [#19]name better coaches than engh?
Kaplan Alecks Solo Frod chet Bzka Potter Zikz Mce mini probably more that I forgot
Asuna_Yuuki [#22]Kaplan Alecks Solo Frod chet Bzka Potter Zikz Mce mini probably more that I forgot
youre actually delusional 😭😭
endless1 [#23]youre actually delusional 😭😭
Tell me who is wrong
KC would be at most a mid table team in NA
endless1 [#21]bait used to be believable tbh, engh had a shithouse in tsm to work w, hazed,corey etc? yikes
also been a language barrier issue, if you watched engh's streams a year ago, you realized he spoke lil to non english at all
He was also an assistant coach, not the main
Nisham [#25]He was also an assistant coach, not the main
The best eu coach isnt good enough to be head coach in na? what a surprise.
Asuna_Yuuki [#24]Tell me who is wrong
KC would be at most a mid table team in NA
alecks - hasn't done shit w prx in how many years?
solo - you're basing it off one event?
frod - what has frod done w loud exactly? got carried by aspas and saadhak
chet - had a superteam roster last year and done shit w them, outplayed by blibli?
zikz - not even gonna comment on this one
mce - he's such a great coach, thats why hes on a literal uni team rn
idk if you actually believe what u said but damn youre delulu
endless1 [#27]alecks - hasn't done shit w prx in how many years?
solo - you're basing it off one event?
frod - what has frod done w loud exactly? got carried by aspas and saadhak
chet - had a superteam roster last year and done shit w them, outplayed by blibli?
zikz - not even gonna comment on this one
mce - he's such a great coach, thats why hes on a literal uni team rnidk if you actually believe what u said but damn youre delulu
What has ENGHHH done after 2021?
Pretty much nothing
All of the other players I’ve mentioned have actually had successful teams and done good things in the modern VALORANT era
Every coach I mentioned is much better
Enghhh did good in one event since 2021 and got exposed at Masters and now people think he is all that?
You can’t be serious
Ballsamolee [#26]The best eu coach isnt good enough to be head coach in na? what a surprise.
bc he literally didnt speak the language yet they still hired him, tells a lot abt him, no?
Asuna_Yuuki [#28]What has ENGHHH done after 2021?
Pretty much nothing
All of the other players I’ve mentioned have actually had successful teams and done good things in the modern VALORANT era
Every coach I mentioned is much better
Enghhh did good in one event since 2021 and got exposed at Masters and now people think he is all that?
You can’t be serious
zikz had achievements bc of potter, frod got carried by saadhak and aspas, alecks didnt win shit except being 2nd or 3rd, chet hasnt won shit after 2022 so i assume hes shit too?, what success did mce have? solo coached one event?
engh scouted a whole tier2 team and made them competitive? if you think being competitive with prx and sen w a literal tier2 team, that ppl expected to be bottom of emea is exposed, idek what to tell you
endless1 [#31]zikz had achievements bc of potter, frod got carried by saadhak and aspas, alecks didnt win shit except being 2nd or 3rd, chet hasnt won shit after 2022 so i assume hes shit too?, what success did mce have? solo coached one event?
engh scouted a whole tier2 team and made them competitive? if you think being competitive with prx and sen w a literal tier2 team, that ppl expected to be bottom of emea is exposed, idek what to tell you
The rest of consistent placements
Winning isn’t everything, placing consistently is good.
Most of the coaches I’ve mentioned have coached top teams for the past few years
And you are giving ENGHHH too much credit for scouting
He said in an interview that while he did have a say in KC’s rosters, it was actually management and rest of staff at KC that helped build the team
Asuna_Yuuki [#32]The rest of consistent placements
Winning isn’t everything, placing consistently is good.
Most of the coaches I’ve mentioned have coached top teams for the past few years
And you are giving ENGHHH too much credit for scouting
He said in an interview that while he did have a say in KC’s rosters, it was actually management and rest of staff at KC that helped build the team
where did mce, solo, frod with mibr, place consistently? not even counting zikz placements as an AC
endless1 [#29]bc he literally didnt speak the language yet they still hired him, tells a lot abt him, no?
Engh did speak english tho? Maybe not at a high level but he knew how to.
endless1 [#31]zikz had achievements bc of potter, frod got carried by saadhak and aspas, alecks didnt win shit except being 2nd or 3rd, chet hasnt won shit after 2022 so i assume hes shit too?, what success did mce have? solo coached one event?
engh scouted a whole tier2 team and made them competitive? if you think being competitive with prx and sen w a literal tier2 team, that ppl expected to be bottom of emea is exposed, idek what to tell you
I agree with u that enghh is the goat but to say he scouted them was disingenuous, all 3 of the T2 players he got were all already well known talent; marteen was literally the only good player on his team and the only reason they reached ascension; N4RRATE was an insane entry fragger and was getting trialed by NRG and G2; Tomaszy is the greatest portuguese player to touch this game. If anything his greatest achievement with this roster is making magnum an actually insanely well thought out IGL.
endless1 [#33]where did mce, solo, frod with mibr, place consistently? not even counting zikz placements as an AC
Frod was very good with LOUD last year and exceeded expectations with MIBR
Solo has done insane work transforming this GEN G team, much better than ENGHHH with KC
MCE has coached many top teams with good placements such as GUARD and c9
ENGHHH hasn’t done anything for past 3 years, comes back wins kick off but loses on LAN getting exposing their region as weak.
Everyone else I mentioned has actually been consistently good and didn’t find all of their success in 2021.
Hyopic [#35]I agree with u that enghh is the goat but to say he scouted them was disingenuous, all 3 of the T2 players he got were all already well known talent; marteen was literally the only good player on his team and the only reason they reached ascension; N4RRATE was an insane entry fragger and was getting trialed by NRG and G2; Tomaszy is the greatest portuguese player to touch this game. If anything his greatest achievement with this roster is making magnum an actually insanely well thought out IGL.
there's a lot more to it than just being a known talent, marteen destroyed italy's challenger league, yes but so did other people like wackie, whos still stuck in tier2. n4rrate was known yes, ill give you that. tomaszy being the greatest portuguese player is kinda yap, everyone on saw was great, including fizzy. but even then, making a duelist player completely take on another role as tomaszy did, engh and magnum did a great job, no?
TeoEmil [#7]Pretty sure he owned you. Was in plat gangy
makes sense it was ur lil bro who played him.
you could never get plat
Asuna_Yuuki [#36]Frod was very good with LOUD last year and exceeded expectations with MIBR
Solo has done insane work transforming this GEN G team, much better than ENGHHH with KC
MCE has coached many top teams with good placements such as GUARD and c9
ENGHHH hasn’t done anything for past 3 years, comes back wins kick off but loses on LAN getting exposing their region as weak.
Everyone else I mentioned has actually been consistently good and didn’t find all of their success in 2021.
how is gen.g's transition better than kc's?
mce only coached tgrd and c9 and hasn't done shit w either of them apart from the qualification to masters?
frod exceeded what expectations exactly? beating a fraudulent c9 team?
you cant be serious
Ballsamolee [#34]Engh did speak english tho? Maybe not at a high level but he knew how to.
if you literally watched his streams a year ago, you saw how he spoke barely to no english?
endless1 [#37]there's a lot more to it than just being a known talent, marteen destroyed italy's challenger league, yes but so did other people like wackie, whos still stuck in tier2. n4rrate was known yes, ill give you that. tomaszy being the greatest portuguese player is kinda yap, everyone on saw was great, including fizzy. but even then, making a duelist player completely take on another role as tomaszy did, engh and magnum did a great job, no?
Again, I want to say I agree, if KC keep performing how they have, enghh is probably going to be the greatest coach to touch this game unless potter/alecks or kaplan (would need to win multiple events and place high in champs but even then I would probably give credit to JohnQT) can pull something (I don't say chet because pretty much every team hes joined or been on has what are considered the best players in NA), but I think that you misunderstand how much T2 duelist -> another role has happened. Mako, TenZ, demon1, Jawgemo, Tuyz, Less (short time period), Asuna, Zellsis, Life, Bang, Boostio, Cryo, Zyppan, Ardiis, Starxo, Sheydos, Jampii, Sayf, and Trexx are only some of the examples of this trend. I genuinely think that enghh probably had it a lot easier with the 3 rookies than it was to make magnum successful within his system. If N4RRATE, Tomaszy or Marteen did not get picked up by Karmine Corp, I guarantee they would have been picked up. Tomaszy was also definitely the best portuguese player, I do not think that is debatable lmao, he is an incredible player.
number2_cNed_fan [#38]makes sense it was ur lil bro who played him.
you could never get plat
Gangy I smurf your peak unfortunately 😞
Asuna_Yuuki [#8]ENGHHH isn’t even close to international coaches
He got outplayed by alecks and kaplan
because he had to carry*
cboomer [#10]Sen has a vibes player Zellsis
M8 has a vibes owner Gotaga
NRG has a vibes coach Chet 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Vibes coach is crazy
Potatobrawler8 [#18]that is not the point, the point is that enghhh is a better coach than Na tier 2 coaches, therefore he can use n4rrate more effectively. Thus n4rrate has an easier time in eu
did you forget that engh coached tsm in na t2 last year and they were shit
danii1 [#45]Vibes coach is crazy
stop necrothreading the nrg fans are mad im calling out their bs
hating on enghhh but im obsessed
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