Why is everyone rating KC and TH super high with expectations? If they win masters sure but just because they beat NAVI and FNATIC in a BO3 single elimination doesn't mean they are the best team in the world, arguably they are on par with Furia and Mibr. Sentinels and Loud are the best teams in the tournament and both will make it to the finals.
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GKeepItReal [#3]Lot of people think TH are not going far.
It's fair to say KC look strong as fuck though.
Beating FNC Is no joke.
But fnc played trash tbh
TheAceGamer30 [#4]But fnc played trash tbh
Of course people disregard their performance, it's always the opponent that sucks according to you all
GKeepItReal [#3]Lot of people think TH are not going far.
It's fair to say KC look strong as fuck though.
Beating FNC Is no joke.
didn't team liquid beat FNC last year?
lmao
stfu
GKeepItReal [#3]Lot of people think TH are not going far.
It's fair to say KC look strong as fuck though.
Beating FNC Is no joke.
Single elim, if both teams were to run it back. You sure as hell aren't betting for KC or TH.
GKeepItReal [#5]Of course people disregard their performance, it's always the opponent that sucks according to you all
dude they didn’t look like the team that won masters at all in that match Kc was simply better
TheAceGamer30 [#8]dude they didn’t look like the team that won masters at all in that match Kc was simply better
Whatever you think.
Loud didn't look as good as last year too.
I'd also argue that EMEA looks better, teams like Vitality, TH with wo0t, FUT, even Na'vi look better than last year.
GKeepItReal [#9]Whatever you think.
Loud didn't look as good as last year too.
I'd also argue that EMEA looks better, teams like Vitality, TH with wo0t, FUT, even Na'vi look better than last year.
What ☠️, are you just saying things to say things.
kalayav_n [#10]What ☠️, are you just saying things to say things.
EMEA looks stronger than last year, it's a fact.
Teams are looking better.
Don't forget FNC (still the same roster) toyed with NA teams last year, get off your high horses guys.
GKeepItReal [#11]EMEA looks stronger than last year, it's a fact.
Teams are looking better.
Don't forget FNC (still the same roster) toyed with NA teams last year, get off your high horses guys.
We don't know yet til they face NA teams but new era in EMEA looks sick. I just hate the fact that KC and TH are #1 favorites and #1 team because they beat Navi and Fnatic who got dog walked in champs last year.
TheAceGamer30 [#4]But fnc played trash tbh
But NRG should've 2-0'd Sen
See how that logic doesn't work
NioMS [#12]You're gonna eat those words
You just recycled your washed players this year whereas most EMEA teams brought up actual talent from tier 2
KC and Heretics will stomp in Madrid just like they stomped Navi and Fnatic
I'm sure losing to a fortnite guy did some damage but I didn't know it was this much damage.
kalayav_n [#13]We don't know yet til they face NA teams but new era in EMEA looks sick. I just hate the fact that KC and TH are #1 favorites and #1 team because they beat Navi and Fnatic who got dog walked in champs last year.
KC have no experience, that's true, but you can't deny they still pretty well and they have ENGH.
TH is kinda meh, I think they will be better with wo0t but maybe they will surprise people at master's
kalayav_n [#13]We don't know yet til they face NA teams but new era in EMEA looks sick. I just hate the fact that KC and TH are #1 favorites and #1 team because they beat Navi and Fnatic who got dog walked in champs last year.
You're just saying things to say things
Navi got 12+ rounds on average in a tough group that they should've made it out off
Fnatic still only lost to 1 team
kalayav_n [#15]I'm sure losing to a fortnite guy did some damage but I didn't know it was this much damage.
No need to talk just wait a few days and watch the games
GKeepItReal [#16]KC have no experience, that's true, but you can't deny they still pretty well and they have ENGH.
TH is kinda meh, I think they will be better with wo0t but maybe they will surprise people at master's
Kinda reminds me of the billibilli incident, where they beat the best team arguably and then get dog walked right after. You can have 1 in a billion game matches but you just can't repeat them without experience.
kalayav_n [#15]I'm sure losing to a fortnite guy did some damage but I didn't know it was this much damage.
Fortnite guy benyjfishy will school tenz and qt just wait and watch
kalayav_n [#15]I'm sure losing to a fortnite guy did some damage but I didn't know it was this much damage.
I think Sen are favorites but it sucks that TH can't play with w0ot, I think they'd be stronger with him.
NioMS [#19]No need to talk just wait a few days and watch the games
The aura, I just shivered mate. NA is for sure getting rolled over and stomped on! Thanks for opening my eyes up
kalayav_n [#20]Kinda reminds me of the billibilli incident, where they beat the best team arguably and then get dog walked right after. You can have 1 in a billion game matches but you just can't repeat them without experience.
NRG was not the best team at all last year 😂
FNC_Ajay [#22]Fortnite guy benyjfishy will school tenz and qt just wait and watch
When does neT play?
TheAceGamer30 [#25]NRG was not the best team at all last year 😂
on paper NRG were probably the best team last year. Then Double Agent 007 Goat came in and dismantled them all.
kalayav_n [#27]on paper NRG were probably the best team last year. Then Double Agent 007 Goat came in and dismantled them all.
on paper fnatic was way better than NRG lmao
Psion [#28]on paper fnatic was way better than NRG lmao
Let's just ignore the word probably and arguably.
TheAceGamer30 [#4]But fnc played trash tbh
Fnc played trash because the opponent put them in that place to have bad performance . Just like Lord Voldemort diffed you and made you drop 1 kill in a gold lobby and beat your team 13-0
Psion [#31]can u reword this i am confusion
Pay attention in class instead of playing Valorant on your Chromebook.
kalayav_n [#32]Pay attention in class instead of playing Valorant on your Chromebook.
bro u edited world to word lmfaooo. they were never arguably or probably the best team in the world this is revisionism at it's finest. Lock\in? Not even best team at americas
Tokyo and Champs? not even best team in North America
Psion [#33]bro u edited world to word lmfaooo. they were never arguably or probably the best team in the world this is revisionism at it's finest. Lock\in? Not even best team at americas
Tokyo and Champs? not even best team in North America
Do you understand the meaning of the words, On PAPER, ARGUABLY, and PROBABLY?
kalayav_n [#34]Do you understand the meaning of the words, On PAPER, ARGUABLY, and PROBABLY?
yes, on paper fnc were better. they were never arguably the best team in the world, and they were never probably the best team in the world either. you are either remembering wrong or making up bullshit
GKeepItReal [#5]Of course people disregard their performance, it's always the opponent that sucks according to you all
Even B0tster said it
Emmy_TOF [#41]KC vs fpx scuffed
look on LOUD beating 2 china team
both th and kc got 2-0ed and sent home. i told you this recency bias is crazy these guys are not good at all!
NioMS [#12]You're gonna eat those words
You just recycled your washed players this year whereas most EMEA teams brought up actual talent from tier 2
KC and Heretics will stomp in Madrid just like they stomped Navi and Fnatic
hope your okay mate
bc surprisingly, there is a big upset on the emea teams that qualify on masters Madrid, like we expectating navi and fnatic, but for some weird reason kc and th performed well against them during kickoff, idk what happened but ig if u put up a team w new players, you don't really have lots of vods or knowledge about how these new players play in the scene, but now that they've got vods from Madrid, they know now how to prepare against them. from me though KC was very mid during Madrid, th had the kicks but still can't win important rounds, but I still think th will be a strong team w woot. like I know kc strat works but for me they are still mid, even though they are top seed during kickoff.
jnm16 [#48]bc surprisingly, there is a big upset on the emea teams that qualify on masters Madrid, like we expectating navi and fnatic, but for some weird reason kc and th performed well against them during kickoff, idk what happened but ig if u put up a team w new players, you don't really have lots of vods or knowledge about how these new players play in the scene, but now that they've got vods from Madrid, they know now how to prepare against them. from me though KC was very mid during Madrid, th had the kicks but still can't win important rounds, but I still think th will be a strong team w woot. like I know kc strat works but for me they are still mid, even though they are top seed during kickoff.
Everyone can beat anyone, its called punchers chance but throughout a season they get exposed. Mike Tyson can lose a boxing fight because of 1 mistake, same thing happened here.
kalayav_n [#49]Everyone can beat anyone, its called punchers chance but throughout a season they get exposed. Mike Tyson can lose a boxing fight because of 1 mistake, same thing happened here.
nrg can never lose, my kings
Dentondabest [#51]nrg can never lose, my kings
NRG are on fraud watching heading into LEV lol. if LEV players turn up its just a 2-0 for LEV
kalayav_n [#52]NRG are on fraud watching heading into LEV lol. if LEV players turn up its just a 2-0 for LEV
flair
kalayav_n [#52]NRG are on fraud watching heading into LEV lol. if LEV players turn up its just a 2-0 for LEV
Nah bro how tf are we on fraud watch
Just tell me how
It doesn't make any sense
We have dropped the least amount of maps in all of the leagues this year
kalayav_n [#50]mmmm NAHHH, th are absolutely shit!
bro, ur lev fan, if u guys didnt have the best player itw u wouldnt even beat MIBR
Asuna_Yuuki [#54]Nah bro how tf are we on fraud watch
Just tell me how
It doesn't make any sense
We have dropped the least amount of maps in all of the leagues this year
lev fans re just lost, they think they re good cuz they beat sen but the only good thing they have is aspas, nrg 2-0 lev unless aspas drops 45 again
shaaidem [#56]bro, ur lev fan, if u guys didnt have the best player itw u wouldnt even beat MIBR
if i had 3 million dollars id be a millionare, why are u saying ifs??
shaaidem [#57]lev fans re just lost, they think they re good cuz they beat sen but the only good thing they have is aspas, nrg 2-0 lev unless aspas drops 45 again
we are good because we have the best player in the world??? thats how fucking teams work, if you have good players = they become good teams. Why are vlr users so stupid
kalayav_n [#60]PLEASE PUT SOME FUCKING RESPECT ON MY FUCKING DAMN NAME. TH AND KC ARE NOT GOOD THEY ARE AT BEST CLOUD9 LEVEL!
They are leviatan level
Cacachocolat [#62]They are leviatan level
nah, but we leviatan arent good yet tbh. we need some chemistry and fix up a couple of holes in our game and we are probably top 2 best teams in the world.
kalayav_n [#60]PLEASE PUT SOME FUCKING RESPECT ON MY FUCKING DAMN NAME. TH AND KC ARE NOT GOOD THEY ARE AT BEST CLOUD9 LEVEL!
you're not right you can't fathom how good EMEA is
Every EMEA team except giantx and lulquid is insane level i fear
cboomer [#64]you're not right you can't fathom how good EMEA is
Every EMEA team except giantx and lulquid is insane level i fear
only fnatic, navi and maybe fut if they are on their game can compete with gen g, prx, nrg, sen, loud and lev if lev fix up.
kalayav_n [#65]only fnatic, navi and maybe fut if they are on their game can compete with gen g, prx, nrg, sen, loud and lev if lev fix up.
don't sneak nrg in
kalayav_n [#65]only fnatic, navi and maybe fut if they are on their game can compete with gen g, prx, nrg, sen, loud and lev if lev fix up.
lev lost to c9
SEN lost to LEV
see how this logic is cracked up, its a league split and both Americas and EMEA are stacked all the way in the top 7
cboomer [#67]lev lost to c9
SEN lost to LEV
see how this logic is cracked up, its a league split and both Americas and EMEA are stacked all the way in the top 7
thats not the logic im using you fucking dumb ass. KC and TH went on a fairytale run as in THEY HAD GOOD FORM, thats it they are not a excellent team???
Cacachocolat [#66]don't sneak nrg in
oh i've snuck the frauds in dw, they get grouped in champs btw
NioMS [#12]You're gonna eat those words
You just recycled your washed players this year whereas most EMEA teams brought up actual talent from tier 2
KC and Heretics will stomp in Madrid just like they stomped Navi and Fnatic
thanks mate, ive swallowed my own words.
my-dad-ate-my-toes [#72]Damn this aged half well half ass
TH turned out to be those guys, KC fell off hard
ofc they did, one tourney wonders
MudKiko [#74]lil bro hit a 4/8 3 months ago and is back to this thread
you talk like that in real life too? shameful
kalayav_n [#69]oh i've snuck the frauds in dw, they get grouped in champs btw
they don’t even make any lans
kalayav_n [#77]in conclusion, TH will never make a GF again next year and well KC didn't even attend 2/3 events....
you were half right
kalayav_n [#77]in conclusion, TH will never make a GF again next year and well KC didn't even attend 2/3 events....
fuck you anyways
sm0ke3 [#79]you were half right
Technically speaking no he wasn't. KC was far better than Furia and MIBR
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