Less 4th and tenz above KK and soemthing blasphemous
cobalt21312 [#5]reasonable tbh
Z0kken is getting folded by TH, mark my words lil bro
Literally first lan appearance since 2022 and is rated the number 1 😹😹
iluckilyVA [#2]Reasonable
How is putting zekken 1st and Less 4th when less had a higher rating playing viper reasonable?
Conceit [#11]I don't even like Tenz but he has played better than Kangkang and Something
I do think Less should be higher than Texture though
He has played better than KK? the guy with almost 300ACS? How did he play better than them? When he was not even better than tuyz and karon?
MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#13]kongkong awp fraud. always getting exposed at internationals and cries on the flight home before he farms the china league bots.
What you talking about? Most of his better games are on masters and champs
yawnster [#8]Z0kken is getting folded by TH, mark my words lil bro
Literally first lan appearance since 2022 and is rated the number 1 😹😹
ill be back
Jeffo [#9]How is putting zekken 1st and Less 4th when less had a higher rating playing viper reasonable?
I think Less is number 1, but I don't think that it's freakishly outlandish to have Zekken at number 1 either regardless of his rating. He provides far more than just a high rating as well, is that really the most imperative metric we use to measure the skill level of a player?
MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#13]kongkong awp fraud. always getting exposed at internationals and cries on the flight home before he farms the china league bots.
why are you attacking China, China is a good country
iluckilyVA [#18]I think Less is number 1, but I don't think that it's freakishly outlandish to have Zekken at number 1 either regardless of his rating. He provides far more than just a high rating as well, is that really the most imperative metric we use to measure the skill level of a player?
It is outlandish.
N4rrate had a better ACS playing fade than zekken on duelist, he shouldn't even be 2nd
yawnster [#8]Z0kken is getting folded by TH, mark my words lil bro
Literally first lan appearance since 2022 and is rated the number 1 😹😹
where is lulquid?
Jeffo [#22]It is outlandish.
N4rrate had a better ACS playing fade than zekken on duelist, he shouldn't even be 2nd
You are now comparing two players' ratings that don't even play in the same region. You're just blurting out statistics without considering what they actually prove at this point.
cobalt21312 [#23]where is lulquid?
Bro this is your first international LAN since september 2021, don't get too cocky
AstroGalaxy [#21]zekken deserves 1 less second tenz personally 8th
good list then KK kinda washed
zellsis is 11th
iluckilyVA [#24]You are now comparing two players' ratings that don't even play in the same region. You're just blurting out statistics without considering what they actually prove at this point.
N4rrate sht on fnatic, is that good enough?
Jeffo [#25]Bro this is your first international LAN since september 2021, don't get too cocky
i'm going to trashtalk liquid fans regardless if sen lose 2-0 or win madrid.
jaynewton [#3]tenz def >> kk
idk bout something
If kk played blindfoldedd he'll still be better than tenz, and I'll see ya next week when kk destroys and t0nz disappears
Jeffo [#29]With aspas, yes
LOUD are far more than just their firepower, and you know that. The main factor that went into winning that series was the anti-strating of Sadhaak.
Zekken beat that team in a fairly close series.
iluckilyVA [#32]LOUD are far more than just their firepower, and you know that. The main factor that went into winning that series was the anti-strating of Sadhaak.
Zekken beat that team in a fairly close series.
I know that loud with aspas is better than loud with qck yes.
Jeffo [#15]He has played better than KK? the guy with almost 300ACS? How did he play better than them? When he was not even better than tuyz and karon?
Bro, KK is playing in Chinese kickoff, I love chinese valorant, but they are silly as hell and not as developed. Tenz is also playing controller and still frying, it's hard to compare people from different roles but I think Tenz's utility definitely brings him up. In regards to Tuyz they are basically the same statistically, but Tenz played better then him in the Grand Final (not that Tuyz played bad, but Tenz just destroyed them). I also think from an eyeball test Tenz looked better than Tuyz for kickoff. For Karon, he's honestly just playing in Pacific which I don't rate that highly at all. He's REALLY GOOD, let's not get it twisted, but when I'm watching Pacific I feel like GenG is the only team that is real and actually trying to win games.
Jeffo [#33]I know that loud with aspas is better than loud with qck yes.
That is not the point. I can guarantee that even with Qck, LOUD would have won that series against FNATIC at champs; and that only proves the strength of Sadhaak as an IGL. FNATIC looked lost in that series, and not because they were getting outgunned; but because they got outread.
beaver_man [#4]Recency bias the podcast
Who did you want to be in the list anyway? Aspas? Demon1? Mako? Chronicle? Alfajer? The discussion was about the upcoming Challengers Madrid, and these guys didnt qualify. Of course, it will be based on recency, because these recent winners are the ones qualified for the event. How dmub can you be?
Poge [#20]why are you attacking China, China is a good country
nothing against china, their val players are just shit.
MuZe [#38]definitely clears that overrated fraud KK, KK has achieved NOTHING other than farming bots in CN.
rare sen fan W
MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#13]kongkong awp fraud. always getting exposed at internationals and cries on the flight home before he farms the china league bots.
True, everyone puts edg players in top 5 list and call them underrated. KK wasnt even the best player in his team from Champs but he still is put in top 10 list.
Lol
MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#39]nothing against china, their val players are just shit.
You dislike their valorant players? So you hate china as a country?
MneMaloMaloMaloTebya [#39]nothing against china, their val players are just shit.
Individually, I don't think so. They have the potential to be on par with the other regions. Just not developed enough as a scene yet
yawnster [#8]Z0kken is getting folded by TH, mark my words lil bro
Literally first lan appearance since 2022 and is rated the number 1 😹😹
Someone remind me after the match to come back
Jeffo [#15]He has played better than KK? the guy with almost 300ACS? How did he play better than them? When he was not even better than tuyz and karon?
Tenz had to play 7+ matches to tuyz only played 4 if we count just playoffs which is when the stakes are the highest tenz has a 240:+ acs (best in playoffs) and has way more better stats than tuyz, even if u include play ins aswell
Poge [#42]You dislike their valorant players? So you hate china as a country?
nothing against china
learn to read retard
yawnster [#8]Z0kken is getting folded by TH, mark my words lil bro
Literally first lan appearance since 2022 and is rated the number 1 😹😹
Bait used to be believable
Jeffo [#15]He has played better than KK? the guy with almost 300ACS? How did he play better than them? When he was not even better than tuyz and karon?
I can’t tell if you just hate tenz or just plain stupid because tenz is playing way better than kk and that’s a fact
AstroGalaxy [#21]zekken deserves 1 less second tenz personally 8th
good list then KK kinda washed
Nah tenz is fine in 6th
yawnster [#8]Z0kken is getting folded by TH, mark my words lil bro
Literally first lan appearance since 2022 and is rated the number 1 😹😹
speak now motherfucker
Jeffo [#25]Bro this is your first international LAN since september 2021, don't get too cocky
yikes
Kinga [#65]N4rrate and mini boo clear him
miniboo the neon merchant.. zekken clears him on all levels
Jeffo [#9]How is putting zekken 1st and Less 4th when less had a higher rating playing viper reasonable?
Hope you’re doing well. This didn’t age well. Sit down son
kitsuneHP [#61]speak now motherfucker
Mickey mouse event tbh
All teams looked terrible and PRX getting to top 3 without their best player should tell you it was a mickey mouse.
Also have some shame, TH was also missing their best player and you're celebrating like it means anything 😭
Jeffo [#31]If kk played blindfoldedd he'll still be better than tenz, and I'll see ya next week when kk destroys and t0nz disappears
Where did you go 😂
yawnster [#68]Mickey mouse event tbh
All teams looked terrible and PRX getting to top 3 without their best player should tell you it was a mickey mouse.
Also have some shame, TH was also missing their best player and you're celebrating like it means anything 😭
Cope and seethe
yawnster [#68]Mickey mouse event tbh
All teams looked terrible and PRX getting to top 3 without their best player should tell you it was a mickey mouse.
Also have some shame, TH was also missing their best player and you're celebrating like it means anything 😭
pick a side dude, had TH won we all know you wouldnt have called this a mickey mouse tourney