V1, Fnatic and now Nuturn now out of contention for Berlin. Now given that none of these teams were even considered top choices from their region, is the scene stabilizing or is the Iceland curse true?
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Zestwy [#2]I think it is a bit of both. They are good, but the top teams are finally playing to their potential. Plus as much as I like V1, I think their growth is capped at the moment.
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Crayzid [#6]SEN next???
I mean win 2 match and then chill. After that going to Berlin is guaranteed soo...
var1ance [#7]very possible they could be next
If TSM win against NV which is unlikely then its easy path for the qual for Sentinels. Im also confident they can take on NV too.
schlong [#4]Nuturn lost the best Sova in KR so there's that
yeah lakia was from vs and they took him back. unlucky.
var1ance [#5]im pretty sure CR, X10, KRU and Vikings will qualify berlin 88%
more sure about kru and vikings than the others.
M0rcc [#11]If TSM win against NV which is unlikely then its easy path for the qual for Sentinels. Im also confident they can take on NV too.
tsm against sentinels would be scary for sentinels as they havent played tsm in so long and tsm looks to be on a heater rn. sentinels still probably make lowers sweep but its possible sentinels dont make it.
Zaynio [#8]Scene is stabilizing but the format needs some work.
EDIT: Gonna be honest, Iceland was boring after the V1 vs Liquid game for me, dunno about anyone else. After V1 took down Liquid in a pretty convincing fashion + Sen taking down fnatic, results were basically predicted from then on.
the only "upset" after that was v1 losing to nu. you could see the disbelief in their facecams after lakia clutched that 1v2 in map 2. that got nu really gassed up and ultimately won them the match imo.
Crayzid [#6]SEN next???
sen def has to be within one of the three na spots. if they arent the only other possiiblity is xset 100t and nv
swaglord69 [#18]sen def has to be within one of the three na spots. if they arent the only other possiiblity is xset 100t and nv
all of them look good if sentinels upsets
hellaeleganceyeah [#17]the only "upset" after that was v1 losing to nu. you could see the disbelief in their facecams after lakia clutched that 1v2 in map 2. that got nu really gassed up and ultimately won them the match imo.
Yeah V1 kinda threw against Nu; not to say NU is a bad team, V1 had advantage.
But yeah, I felt like Iceland got boring after the EU teams lost to the NA ones.
hellaeleganceyeah [#16]tsm against sentinels would be scary for sentinels as they havent played tsm in so long and tsm looks to be on a heater rn. sentinels still probably make lowers sweep but its possible sentinels dont make it.
Nah TSM would get whooped ngl, they would get igl diffed so hard. Sen are too stacked sorry.
M0rcc [#21]Nah TSM would get whooped ngl, they would get igl diffed so hard. Sen are too stacked sorry.
u just gotta believe, anything can happen :)
var1ance [#5]im pretty sure CR, X10, KRU and Vikings will qualify berlin 88%
yes to VKS, slightly less sure about KRU X10 and CR. I think LATAMN was sleeping a bit in stage 2 and six karma/infinity/lazer have a good chance of winning.
As for X10 I just think the loss of patiphan added to the fact that the qualification path is hard (16 teams) makes me a bit unsure about them.
For CR I didn’t like their roster changes and I think ZETA will regain the top spot and Nth could take the 2nd
hiyo [#25]yes to VKS, slightly less sure about KRU X10 and CR. I think LATAMN was sleeping a bit in stage 2 and six karma/infinity/lazer have a good chance of winning.
As for X10 I just think the loss of patiphan added to the fact that the qualification path is hard (16 teams) makes me a bit unsure about them.
For CR I didn’t like their roster changes and I think ZETA will regain the top spot and Nth could take the 2nd
what team is patiphan on now?
M0rcc [#21]Nah TSM would get whooped ngl, they would get igl diffed so hard. Sen are too stacked sorry.
wow, the first sane TSM fan I've met on vlr.gg
Zestwy [#2]I think it is a bit of both. They are good, but the top teams are finally playing to their potential. Plus as much as I like V1, I think their growth is capped at the moment.
also Fnatic tried to reinvent them selfs to much, they shouldve just sticked with what they had and changed a biut of it
hellaeleganceyeah [#17]the only "upset" after that was v1 losing to nu. you could see the disbelief in their facecams after lakia clutched that 1v2 in map 2. that got nu really gassed up and ultimately won them the match imo.
that was the best match in the tournament imo
ShadowisBAD [#24]I reckon , the other teams of each region had alot of time and vods to counter strat against the teams who played iceland . Fnatic , V1 , ETC
V1 wasnt on the meta, feels like they had no time to adapt after zellsis came back, fnatic was just trying to reinvent themself very hard and failed, while nuturn basically lost their best player of the team and the best sova in the world
PrTsty [#30]that was the best match in the tournament imo
V1 vs Liquid was the best. Showcased how a top 5-8 team versus a top 3 team in EU would look like (of course at the time). Good match but unexpected by many in that regard.
Zaynio [#32]V1 vs Liquid was the best. Showcased how a top 5-8 team versus a top 3 team in EU would look like (of course at the time). Good match but unexpected by many in that regard.
wdym by top 5-8, V1? region or world, i dont get it lol
PrTsty [#33]wdym by top 5-8, V1? region or world, i dont get it lol
Region. V1, despite qualifying for Iceland, was still seen as a top 5-8 team in NA, not a top 3 team in NA.
PrTsty [#28]also Fnatic tried to reinvent them selfs to much, they shouldve just sticked with what they had and changed a biut of it
True.... essentially, Fnatic just overthinks... that is what hurt them in the end. They have a great squad of players.
Malco [#12]NA have 3 slot. That s enough for SEN
I can see a world in which the 3 from NA are NV, 100T, and XSET
Zaynio [#34]Region. V1, despite qualifying for Iceland, was still seen as a top 5-8 team in NA, not a top 3 team in NA.
what? V1 was easily second team, they had the perfect read of the meta, sure fans didnt see it that way since they appeared out of nowhere, but teams like C9, NV, 100T were nowhere near them lol, so I dont know what u talking bout. now they are back at 8th because the meta went back, so saying 5-8th>3rd seems wrong. I still think tho NA>EMEA
PrTsty [#37]what? V1 was easily second team, they had the perfect read of the meta, sure fans didnt see it that way since they appeared out of nowhere, but teams like C9, NV, 100T were nowhere near them lol, so I dont know what u talking bout. now they are back at 8th because the meta went back, so saying 5-8th>3rd seems wrong. I still think tho NA>EMEA
Idk, I just felt that they have a really good run to Iceland.
And to many, this was the case. Of course, if you looked at it objectively, then yeah, they have a grasp of the meta better than every other NA team (post-plant/controller meta).
But my point was regarding how others viewed it. Most people didn't view them as the second best NA team and when they went up against one of EU's "top dogs", it generated more hype than other matches.
Zaynio [#38]Idk, I just felt that they have a really good run to Iceland.
And to many, this was the case. Of course, if you looked at it objectively, then yeah, they have a grasp of the meta better than every other NA team (post-plant/controller meta).
But my point was regarding how others viewed it. Most people didn't view them as the second best NA team and when they went up against one of EU's "top dogs", it generated more hype than other matches.
i wasnt talking about the hype tho, i mean the biggest hype was the grand finals anyways, after that Liquid vs V1 and then Fnatic Sen. its basically NA vs EU that was hype but i was talkin about the actual hype in the server not outside of it
Zaynio [#38]Idk, I just felt that they have a really good run to Iceland.
And to many, this was the case. Of course, if you looked at it objectively, then yeah, they have a grasp of the meta better than every other NA team (post-plant/controller meta).
But my point was regarding how others viewed it. Most people didn't view them as the second best NA team and when they went up against one of EU's "top dogs", it generated more hype than other matches.
Liquid was never a "top dog" in EU. Just like fnatic and V1 they had one good run, before that it was just poor results.
Daniveus [#40]Liquid was never a "top dog" in EU. Just like fnatic and V1 they had one good run, before that it was just poor results.
Yeah, iirc, they bombed out of the round of 32 the challenger series before the one for Iceland.
I said "top dog", because everyone was hyping up Scream and how Liquid would take Iceland easily.
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