Should NA and SA be separate leagues?

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Manaphy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSuDltodyGY
I got this in my recommended and it made me think of the tier 2 talent stuck in NA because of lack of spots and then I started thinking about SA losing all their best teams and having to rebuild the ecosystem.
I don't know much about the cost or business politics of splitting NA and SA, but it made me think if affordable would it be optimal for Riot to split the leagues up.

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Problem is the sa league would be weak af

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Manaphy

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The difference is the Regions up and coming players would be able to play their best teams which would improve them at a faster rate.

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Yeh but imagine watching Mibr at international tournaments(they are top 3 sa rn)

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And they are top 7 in americas rn. what a shit take honestly

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Pengu12

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What bad about the take? It’s straight fax Mibr are dog shit

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Zaba

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Yes, some teams in SA are dogshit, but also some teams in NA are dogshit. C9, G2 and 100t are worse than mibr rn

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Pengu12

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That’s is true but none of them would make international tournies if NA was a separate league
Also 100t is way better then Mibr

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Wouldnt even be top 5 they lost to XIT 🤣🤣

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After just getting formed tho

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_nakuwul

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No

#5

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Just remove kru/lev slot and furia/mibr and problem fixed

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it will become one team region

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No I wanna see the annual el classico

I look forward to watching saadhak outclassing nrg core almost every year #fnscomeback

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Wiggs

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I think they would have done SA, NA, EU, and APAC, but the China league makes it hard because 5 regions to manage seems like a hard task.

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fawning

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it would be way worse since SA doesn't have the resources or people to run a decent league, look at LLA for example, is doomed to fail honestly

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Zaba

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Maybe latam + Brazil with riot help can make something good, but we will never know i think

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fawning

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lets be real merging both regions will make it more unbalanced as is probably double the work for staff and a language barrier for the most part

#14

SmartPerson

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it could be worse bcs sa doesnt have the same investment that na or others regions does have, its a socio geographic problem

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mxchelxz

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the franchise its only good for NA, on the ascenscion for example, NA teams have a much better training. 7 spots in franchise and a better money condition in general, to pursue a pro carrer in BR with a good pc and peripherals its expensive as fuck

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I think the biggest problem is that SA tier 2 can't scrim the tier 1 teams, which kind of prevents the region from developing properly. It's not that apparent yet, but after a few years of all the good SA teams being based in LA, it'll probably become more pronounced. IIRC Leo said Riot considered a rotating league which moves every year but decided against it for logistical reasons. Personally I think for the development of the scene that could have been a very good solution. EMEA teams (excluding sub-Saharan Africa, but there's nothing there in terms of Valorant anyway) can all scrim the partnered teams with a reasonable ping.

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Zaba

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This ☝️

#23

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It's funny to see you say that mibr is bad and shouldn't be in the league, if that were the case C9 and G2 should also be out, right? since they lost to such a bad team
https://www.vlr.gg/307573/g2-esports-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-play-ins
https://www.vlr.gg/295609/cloud9-vs-mibr-champions-tour-2024-americas-kickoff-decider-a

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Pengu12

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Who are you talking to

#25

ionlyHave1Zuni

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NA literally has free ascension spots for the rest of eternity

#26

Asuna_Yuuki

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SA is too bad to have their own league