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why do people hate sentinels & zellsis so much?

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#1
inlovewithlucy

is it rlly his fault that pancada was benched for him? no, it was the orgs decision and honestly rightfully so, with pancadas subpar performance in 2023 & compatibility with the team, zellsis is a better fit. as a sen fan of 3 years, i genuinely have hope for this year's season with the win over PRX and edition of zellsis in pancadas place, with better communication and mental this team is looking bright. if you really think pancada deserves a spot in this team, you're stuck in the past especially after witnessing this series against lev, zellsis and the team have proven themselves.

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AutismCanBeCured
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I don't like sentinels cause their fans are annoying

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trembolonaRage
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pancada's english is bad, that was the right decision

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cohnr
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trembolonaRage [#3]

pancada's english is bad, that was the right decision

holy shit im agreeing with trembolona

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AutismCanBeCured [#2]

I don't like sentinels cause their fans are annoying

ah yes lets hate an org and their players because of fans who they have no control over

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donkkomong
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If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

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AutismCanBeCured
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Snugs [#5]

ah yes lets hate an org and their players because of fans who they have no control over

I don't necessarily hate the players but the org isn't anything special, the owner seems nice but meh, the only people I kinda like are johnqt and zellsis, rest don't seem that likeable

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HE already stated before he got there the roster was already having issues, and if he never would've came someone eventually would've been swapped out on the roster, its not his fault

People hate sentinels 80% because of the Fanbase and the other 20% because of the decisions theyve made in the past ( Dropping Shazam, Dapr, Not dropping Tenz and having a big following of creators )

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jawn
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AutismCanBeCured [#2]

I don't like sentinels cause their fans are annoying

understandable

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AstroGalaxy
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trembolonaRage [#3]

pancada's english is bad, that was the right decision

trembo starting to become based

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inlovewithlucy
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donkkomong [#6]

If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

so you're saying... sen is the better team and if lev was a different team they could've won? good one

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Velocity23
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AutismCanBeCured [#7]

I don't necessarily hate the players but the org isn't anything special, the owner seems nice but meh, the only people I kinda like are johnqt and zellsis, rest don't seem that likeable

lmao what did tenz do

#13
Saiki_taha
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They jeolous SEN have actual fans instead of plastic fans who band-wagon with the best team

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Marhuee
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trembolonaRage [#3]

pancada's english is bad, that was the right decision

Didi you talked with pancada on English?

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Ksgod69
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donkkomong [#6]

If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

If tenz shot back instead of supporting, you would have lost

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pandoradox
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Marhuee [#14]

Didi you talked with pancada on English?

you surely didnt "talked" to anyone in english

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donkkomong [#6]

If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

if leviathan had the loud roster sen wouldve lost 100% lol. thats such a dumb take holy fuck some of you fans lack intelligence

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Sinbad
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donkkomong [#6]

If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

If my grandma had wheels she would be a bike typa shit

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CoCloudy
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AutismCanBeCured [#7]

I don't necessarily hate the players but the org isn't anything special, the owner seems nice but meh, the only people I kinda like are johnqt and zellsis, rest don't seem that likeable

Org isnt special?
literally the most clouted NA org
they actually put effort in almost everything they do
Rob Moore continues to invest cause he believes in it

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loloscum
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I like sen i hate zelzis because he talks too much like a champ but is a bum

#21
Kirya
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Haters gonna hate

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TheAceGamer30
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AutismCanBeCured [#7]

I don't necessarily hate the players but the org isn't anything special, the owner seems nice but meh, the only people I kinda like are johnqt and zellsis, rest don't seem that likeable

How is tenz and zekken not likeable everyone who’s knows them says they are one of the nicest people ever

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TheAceGamer30
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donkkomong [#6]

If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

If tenz played a fraction of his masters form lev would’ve gotten smoked 2-0

#24
TheAceGamer30
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Cus they don’t like their fans supporting their team

#25
StutterSt3p
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I get the whole fans thing which is fair, but as a team I feel like SEN is pretty likeable. Just my opinion though.

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pickleguy483
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CoCloudy [#19]

Org isnt special?
literally the most clouted NA org
they actually put effort in almost everything they do
Rob Moore continues to invest cause he believes in it

exactly. "most clouted org in na": thats the problem, they aren't a good team yet the fans act like they are number 1 in the world, they are just highly clouted, literally just a content org.

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Pengu12
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donkkomong [#6]

If Aspas and Kingg had better teammates, SEN would've lost 100% lol. Thats the truth.

Bro I think ur forgetting lev vs loud was close then lev vs Sen

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TheAceGamer30
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StutterSt3p [#25]

I get the whole fans thing which is fair, but as a team I feel like SEN is pretty likeable. Just my opinion though.

same bro I just like watching them play

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danii1
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pandoradox [#16]

you surely didnt "talked" to anyone in english

You mean didin't

#30
anyth2ng
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pandoradox [#16]

you surely didnt "talked" to anyone in english

well u understood what he tried to say

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Mockadoodlle
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pickleguy483 [#26]

exactly. "most clouted org in na": thats the problem, they aren't a good team yet the fans act like they are number 1 in the world, they are just highly clouted, literally just a content org.

Tbh it would be good not just for sen fan but the whole scene if sen make madrid. The viewership that they'll bring would be insane.

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Mockadoodlle
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Sinbad [#18]

If my grandma had wheels she would be a bike typa shit

Lmao

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jkjkjk
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pickleguy483 [#26]

exactly. "most clouted org in na": thats the problem, they aren't a good team yet the fans act like they are number 1 in the world, they are just highly clouted, literally just a content org.

you have to be fair and provide the entire context: they got their clout, admittedly also through heavy marketing, by being a top team both in NA and globally in both First Strike + launch tournaments, and in the early VCT days (we're talking a range of 13-14 months of being what was considered at the time a top team in Valorant overall). The org capitalized on this way better than others, including other orgs that had similar or better results (eg: does Acend even have fans anymore?)

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SquareMars
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Snugs [#5]

ah yes lets hate an org and their players because of fans who they have no control over

SEN consistently talks shit on Twitter for every match up and never shows up

Take away good players every year to try to reinvent a new way to build around a player who shouldn't even be playing in T1 val

Make way too many changes.

Force their fans to hate on the wrong people in order to cope.

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yawnster
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StutterSt3p [#25]

I get the whole fans thing which is fair, but as a team I feel like SEN is pretty likeable. Just my opinion though.

Nah fuck Z0kken and Zellshit. I pray extra hard for their downfall every morning when I wake up

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0fcuZ
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yawnster [#35]

Nah fuck Z0kken and Zellshit. I pray extra hard for their downfall every morning when I wake up

Seek help lil bro 🤣

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StutterSt3p
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yawnster [#35]

Nah fuck Z0kken and Zellshit. I pray extra hard for their downfall every morning when I wake up

bro what did zekken do? lmao

#38
nutab1e
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yawnster [#35]

Nah fuck Z0kken and Zellshit. I pray extra hard for their downfall every morning when I wake up

yawnster W

#39
Cromawarrior48
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they have the worst fans

#40
0fcuZ
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Cromawarrior48 [#39]

they have the worst fans

Too many tenZ meat riders

#41
inlovewithlucy
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loloscum [#20]

I like sen i hate zelzis because he talks too much like a champ but is a bum

he is a champ he won afreecatv tournament against top teams in the world, made sen a top team again built a good budget roster for c9 that would've qualified had the coaches done better

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inlovewithlucy
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yawnster [#35]

Nah fuck Z0kken and Zellshit. I pray extra hard for their downfall every morning when I wake up

praying on a good teams downfall to cope with ure shit team that couldn't even make play ins LOL

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