Shawn23 [#4]TenZ litearlly hasnt been the issue with this team in the 3 years hes played. Not one.
2022 he wasnt the problem
2023 he wasnt the problem
and he isnt now.Stop glazing a man that has no hate towards you.
Map 1 they shouldve won, map 2 Loud was just the better team on THERE MAP PICK. just stop.
2023 is debatable let's be fr
Shawn23 [#4]TenZ litearlly hasnt been the issue with this team in the 3 years hes played. Not one.
2022 he wasnt the problem
2023 he wasnt the problem
and he isnt now.Stop glazing a man that has no hate towards you.
Map 1 they shouldve won, map 2 Loud was just the better team on THERE MAP PICK. just stop.
lol every round sen won on defense side split was off a hero play and they "should've won", honestly pathetic wasting a sacy 20/5 half too
jawn [#6]2023 is debatable let's be fr
2023 was just a whole fuck up.
Shouldve never signed Sykko or Depph, ( Dephh was a negative and had no positives, skyko wasnt even a real coach dude was a mental coach )
Caused role issues and the whole team barley practiced , I understand tenz didnt play well at the start but the whole team was just in the gutter so No I really wouldnt say its debatable. it was just a whole team issue.
Shawn23 [#4]TenZ litearlly hasnt been the issue with this team in the 3 years hes played. Not one.
2022 he wasnt the problem
2023 he wasnt the problem
and he isnt now.Stop glazing a man that has no hate towards you.
Map 1 they shouldve won, map 2 Loud was just the better team on THERE MAP PICK. just stop.
If that's your argument, then TenZ is just bringing curses to this team LOL
He needs to get out.
TheAceGamer30 [#2]he wasn’t even the problem they all just got owned hard
you don't see a bigger picture
shaq_attaqr [#7]lol every round sen won on defense side split was off a hero play and they "should've won", honestly pathetic wasting a sacy 20/5 half too
i think he is talking about map 1
shaq_attaqr [#7]lol every round sen won on defense side split was off a hero play and they "should've won", honestly pathetic wasting a sacy 20/5 half too
Split they shouldve had damn near playing a 4v5. But Map 2 They were 100% caught off guard with that Loud comp and could confuse anyone.
Loud were destined to win that map, but Split if sacy atleast gets a few trades or zekken wins 1 or 2 more opening duels they win that.
Shawn23 [#14]Split they shouldve had damn near playing a 4v5. But Map 2 They were 100% caught off guard with that Loud comp and could confuse anyone.
Loud were destined to win that map, but Split if sacy atleast gets a few trades or zekken wins 1 or 2 more opening duels they win that.
"if the players played better we'd have won" is where we're now at with the sen copium cycle I guess
michaelisupset [#15]vlr is so funny cause like 45 minutes ago people were praising the shit out of tenz
I never praised that fraud
shaq_attaqr [#16]"if the players played better we'd have won" is where we're now at with the sen copium cycle I guess
i mean sacy had 4 kills until the last 2 rounds.... like If he somehow ends with atleast 10 that game ends different.
Its not no copium in a 20 rounds and you only have 4 kills you can play 100% better.
TheAceGamer30 [#2]he wasn’t even the problem they all just got owned hard
From my perspective, he played like TRASH on Ascent. Was so clueless and didn't know how to play OMEN/CONTROLLER.
Shawn23 [#4]TenZ litearlly hasnt been the issue with this team in the 3 years hes played. Not one.
2022 he wasnt the problem
2023 he wasnt the problem
and he isnt now.Stop glazing a man that has no hate towards you.
Map 1 they shouldve won, map 2 Loud was just the better team on THERE MAP PICK. just stop.
just give t0nz a stream watch party and bring the realy Goat pANcada
DirtInc [#19]TenZ doesn't talk shit or say anything, but somehow he'll always have haters.
im being objective here blud
envyz [#8]WTF are you about He was owning Map 1 and on Map 2 he was just playing hard anchor on A because LOUD never pushed A when they were attacking and on attack zekken's entry was getting shut down consistently and LOUD had great retakes literally giving SEN nothing to do.
cope
Shawn23 [#4]TenZ litearlly hasnt been the issue with this team in the 3 years hes played. Not one.
2022 he wasnt the problem
2023 he wasnt the problem
and he isnt now.Stop glazing a man that has no hate towards you.
Map 1 they shouldve won, map 2 Loud was just the better team on THERE MAP PICK. just stop.
but why use Tenz as a controller when you have a controller that won champs, was the MVP of the champs run and is one of the best controllers in Americas?
Henritsuki [#27]but why use Tenz as a controller when you have a controller that won champs, was the MVP of the champs run and is one of the best controllers in Americas?
quit bringing up a 2 year old champion on a english speaking team. pancada isn't on the team because OF SKILL REASONS. its deeper then that. good god.
smthlikeyou11 [#26]map 1 tenz played hella good sacy js threw map 2 was an off map he belongs on jett not smokes
cope
donkkomong [#21]From my perspective, he played like TRASH on Ascent. Was so clueless and didn't know how to play OMEN/CONTROLLER.
to be fair he was anchoring vs a very exec heavy comp that they havent played vs before, sen's gameplan was nonexistent that whole map cause they played something unusual
donkkomong [#21]From my perspective, he played like TRASH on Ascent. Was so clueless and didn't know how to play OMEN/CONTROLLER.
He wasn't clueless. Loud didn't pick any sentinels on a map like Ascent. But that was a bait. Sen thought they could flank as Loud didn't have sentinel. But they fell in Sadhak's trap. Loud knew Sen would flank them and was already ready to face the lurker.
I don't know what the outside view is like, but for us here in Brazil, our view is that the problem is very obvious, it's like: "man, it's in front of you, you're just not seeing it".
They changed one of the best smokers in the world and MVP of the 2022 champions position and wanted him to continue having the same performance or better. Sentinels' problem is that they want to let their poster boy, Tenz play anyway, even though it's not good for the team, just because it generates a lot of profit for them. Just take him out of the smokes and put on Pancada. The problem was never Zellsis or Pancada, the problem was always TenZ.
#FreePancada
Coopertin0 [#29]cope
You're absolutely a based TenZ hater. he played well in 2021. 2022 sen was living in the past with the meta and TenZ didn't get as much support from the team. 2023 sen was an entire mess. 2024, TenZ switches to omen, plays really well in the AfreecaTV league then owns loud First map but doesn't do as well and u just disregard him, ur no objective, you're a clear brainless, and have no idea what ur on about. yes pancada is better on smokes but his english isn't like tenz where he can EASILY communicate with the team and fits well. idc u can call me a TenZ glazer but ur using the fact that he doesn't drop 300 ACS every map to say he's bad.
Ic4rusYam2 [#34]I don't know what the outside view is like, but for us here in Brazil, our view is that the problem is very obvious, it's like: "man, it's in front of you, you're just not seeing it".
They changed one of the best smokers in the world and MVP of the 2022 champions position and wanted him to continue having the same performance or better. Sentinels' problem is that they want to let their poster boy, Tenz play anyway, even though it's not good for the team, just because it generates a lot of profit for them. Just take him out of the smokes and put on Pancada. The problem was never Zellsis or Pancada, the problem was always TenZ.
#FreePancada
yes i agree that pancada is better on smokes but we don't know how scrims are like. It's much easier for TenZ to communicate than it is for pancada. And it's not even like tenz played that badly. He was insane first map on split and he won sen multiple rounds that they shouldn't have which Ik no other smokes player would be able to do. Yes he wasn't as great map 2. But that doesn't mean u blame him, the entire team wasn't prepared for that comp, if it was any other team playing that comp for the first time, I guarantee 90% of teams would lose to it.
Shadow_Monarch [#31]Yes, we know TenZ is the issue for SEN. But $ and clout owns everything.
sad :(
Ic4rusYam2 [#34]I don't know what the outside view is like, but for us here in Brazil, our view is that the problem is very obvious, it's like: "man, it's in front of you, you're just not seeing it".
They changed one of the best smokers in the world and MVP of the 2022 champions position and wanted him to continue having the same performance or better. Sentinels' problem is that they want to let their poster boy, Tenz play anyway, even though it's not good for the team, just because it generates a lot of profit for them. Just take him out of the smokes and put on Pancada. The problem was never Zellsis or Pancada, the problem was always TenZ.
#FreePancada
I don't know what the outside view is like, but for us here in Brazil, our view is that the problem is very obvious, it's like: "man, it's in front of you, you're just not seeing it".
They changed one of the best smokers in the world and MVP of the 2022 champions position and wanted him to continue having the same performance or better. Sentinels' problem is that they want to let their poster boy, Tenz play anyway, even though it's not good for the team, just because it generates a lot of profit for them. Just take him out of the smokes and put on Pancada. The problem was never Zellsis or Pancada, the problem was always TenZ.
#FreePancada
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