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cartixuzi [#3]zekken
Oh for sure
He’s improving so he is slowly reaching his potential but in 2022 and 23 bro was mad overrated
Uncleben [#4]Oh for sure
He’s improving so he is slowly reaching his potential but in 2022 and 23 bro was mad overrated
he still is and its genuinely unfair for his mental health n shit because of the expectations hes letting down 24/7. People think hes the jesus christ of Valorant or something its insane. Look at the amount of ppl who are again putting him top 3 Americas for 2024.
extan [#2]c0m
bro has been consistently mid and after one title run carried by exceptional teammates people are treating him like a star playernot even a top 7 initiator in Americas
Agreed
He is good though very intelligent and reliable player but definitely overrated
cartixuzi [#7]he still is and its genuinely unfair for his mental health n shit because of the expectations hes letting down 24/7. People think hes the jesus christ of Valorant or something its insane. Look at the amount of ppl who are again putting him top 3 Americas for 2024.
Absolutely
People think he’s genuinely as good as Alfajer or Leo, even pros
The guys 17 let him breathe and improve
Asuna_Yuuki [#11]Chronicle fo sho
I think he’s actually slightly underrated
People underestimate how good a support he is because he frags out
Look at his assist numbers
Uncleben [#12]Maybe in early 2023, but I’d say Suygetsu is currently impressing me
He looks more constant then Shao as of late
he has the cleanest aim in valorant, the eye test is throwing you off, overrated
jawn [#14]he has the cleanest aim in valorant, the eye test is throwing you off, overrated
Maybe
He’s preformed decent recently though despite navi struggling
Imma catch flack for this but his aim is a bit overrated
Uncleben [#16]Maybe
He’s preformed decent recently though despite navi struggling
Imma catch flack for this but his aim is a bit overrated
he's really good, not as good as some glazers on here think therefore overrated, still a good player tho
jawn [#17]he's really good, not as good as some glazers on here think therefore overrated, still a good player tho
What’s ur thoughts on zyppan?
I think he’s one of the most underrated tier 1 players
Uncleben [#10]Absolutely
People think he’s genuinely as good as Alfajer or Leo, even pros
The guys 17 let him breathe and improve
its like the entire NA community put all their chips into him to become the future GOAT of Valorant or smth when we've literally seen nothing from him to bring light into the claim that he'll someday be the best, and he himself knows this. He currently has the highest expectations for 2024 on SEN, and if he doesn't turn out to suddenly become Demon1 or Aspas according to every dedicated SEN fan ever, he's gonna get shit on for it by ppl reading the hype about him & the ppl who made the hype up themselves.
Like I said before, this shit is just unfair for him.
Uncleben [#18]What’s ur thoughts on zyppan?
I think he’s one of the most underrated tier 1 players
he's lucky he has ange1 on his team so he doesn't look as bad is all imma say
cartixuzi [#20]its like the entire NA community put all their chips into him to become the future GOAT of Valorant or smth when we've literally seen nothing from him to bring light into the claim that he'll someday be the best, and he himself knows this. He currently has the highest expectations for 2024 on SEN, and if he doesn't turn out to suddenly become Demon1 or Aspas according to every dedicated SEN fan ever, he's gonna get shit on for it by ppl reading the hype about him & the ppl who made the hype up themselves.
Like I said before, this shit is just unfair for him.
Which is sad because he genuinely is a good player
People think every na talent is either dogshit or Jesus Christ
jawn [#21]he's lucky he has ange1 on his team so he doesn't look as bad is all imma say
Damn lmfao poor guy 😭
Kirya [#6]Victor crashies yay c0m
how is victor overrated tho people barely place him on top 30 players lists
koromast [#25]how is victor overrated tho people barely place him on top 30 players lists
Yeah if anything victor is slightly underrated and crashies is slightly overrated
I had people telling me 2023 Zekken was better than victor 2023
Derke gets placed in talks he doesn't belong in due to being fnatics duelist. After lock-in he was getting called the best player in the world even though Leo was the carry at that event.
Bang hasn't really impressed me since Champs 2022. He's just too inconsistent. For every good series he has, there's 5 stinkers.
masserawa [#27]Cryo is extremely overrated by NA fans
Absolutely not lmfao
No one thinks he’s good anymore
anyth1ng [#29]bro s0m would be a star player if dumbiis didnt retire him
For sure som is a really good controller player
I genuinely hope sticking with fns doesn’t ruin his own personal opportunities ( assuming he wants to compete )
masserawa [#27]Cryo is extremely overrated by NA fans
Cryo is underrated nowadays. Just today when one of the commentators asked if he's the best OP in NA and chat said he wasn't top 5. That is ridiculous, hes easily top 3.
Overall he's mid because he has 0 confidence in entrying but his OP skill is super underrated.
grenji [#30]Derke gets placed in talks he doesn't belong in due to being fnatics duelist. After lock-in he was getting called the best player in the world even though Leo was the carry at that event.
Bang hasn't really impressed me since Champs 2022. He's just too inconsistent. For every good series he has, there's 5 stinkers.
I agree with the derke take, but to be fair he’s been consistent for 3+ years through many metas and fnatic rosters so that prolly plays a factor
grenji [#34]Cryo is underrated nowadays. Just today when one of the commentators asked if he's the best OP in NA and chat said he wasn't top 5. That is ridiculous, hes easily top 3.
Overall he's mid because he has 0 confidence in entrying but his OP skill is super underrated.
I think yay and cryo should both try maiming sentinel
Suits how they play more I think
grenji [#30]Derke gets placed in talks he doesn't belong in due to being fnatics duelist. After lock-in he was getting called the best player in the world even though Leo was the carry at that event.
Bang hasn't really impressed me since Champs 2022. He's just too inconsistent. For every good series he has, there's 5 stinkers.
I was about to say this too, like he's good but he doesn't have to do that much on FNC. There are other duelists who do much more for their team than Derke.
grenji [#34]Cryo is underrated nowadays. Just today when one of the commentators asked if he's the best OP in NA and chat said he wasn't top 5. That is ridiculous, hes easily top 3.
Overall he's mid because he has 0 confidence in entrying but his OP skill is super underrated.
I think yay and cryo should both try maining sentinel
Suits how they play more I think
Uncleben [#35]I agree with the derke take, but to be fair he’s been consistent for 3+ years through many metas and fnatic rosters so that prolly plays a factor
Derke's great, still a top 20-25 player. He was just getting called better than Aspas after lock in, and that's a crack pipe take.
grenji [#39]Derke's great, still a top 20-25 player. He was just getting called better than Aspas after lock in, and that's a crack pipe take.
For sure
I’d say Aspas and jinggg are both better entries than derke, they just had worse teams
thenutoriousPRO [#41]chronicle
no where near the goat
Why so?
He looked amazing at 2021 (3rd in Berlin), and nearly mvped Emea league and was top 3 in Tokyo
koromast [#25]how is victor overrated tho people barely place him on top 30 players lists
People rate him as top 1-3 flex in americas which is not truth at all + I saw lots of people saying hes good cause he had good stats last champs(he only played against zeta and blg)
Kirya [#43]People rate him as top 1-3 flex in americas which is not truth at all + I saw lots of people saying hes good cause he had good stats last champs(he only played against zeta and blg)
Who is a better flex than him in Americas other than jawgemo?
cohnr [#45]cNed is one for me but thats only really because people act like there arent other amazing turkish duelist talents, people underplay qw1, quti etc. I personally would rather have seen quti on FUT but that is very controversial
Oooh idk man I get wym about people underrating quti and qiwi but I feel like cned has huge impact that his stats don’t show
Uncleben [#46]Oooh idk man I get wym about people underrating quti and qiwi but I feel like cned has huge impact that his stats don’t show
he ofc brings insane experience and his oping is insane but I wish he had a better raze like quti and qw1, if he can keep working on the raze I will have no doubts
tenz: obvious reasons I mean just see the reasoning behind his fans
c0m & boostio: hot takes bc yk they are world champs but potter and D1 had so much involvement in the teams improvement
nats: kind of the same situation as tenz but he at least had some decent performances in 2022-23, still nowhere near the best player talk
the average na player: I think this is more bc of its more popular and the whole environment of streamers and such has some relevancy into it but the avrg player is way more popular than a cracked player in another region, it's more of the nature of eSports but yeah
cohnr [#47]he ofc brings insane experience and his oping is insane but I wish he had a better raze like quti and qw1, if he can keep working on the raze I will have no doubts
Yeah it’s a pity qrax can’t play raze
Fut look good in 2024 tho can’t wait to see them
I hope the next Emea team to win a trophy is a Turkish scene to inject some life into it
Kirya [#50]Tenz and trent
Disagree on the Trent take, we need to see him on lan against top international teams first
Trent is a better pure initiator than flex
Tenz maybe but I think they flex onto different agents so it’s hard to compare
Uncleben [#49]Yeah it’s a pity qrax can’t play raze
Fut look good in 2024 tho can’t wait to see them
I hope the next Emea team to win a trophy is a Turkish scene to inject some life into it
the talent in turkey is absurd kinda wish wo0t went to a more high profile team because he could be the next big player
cohnr [#52]the talent in turkey is absurd kinda wish wo0t went to a more high profile team because he could be the next big player
Reazy and elite looks crazy aswell
If Turkey didn’t lack top tier IGLs and have weird management they could easily squeeze out two super teams right now
Uncleben [#51]Disagree on the Trent take, we need to see him on lan against top international teams first
Trent is a better pure initiator than flex
Tenz maybe but I think they flex onto different agents so it’s hard to compare
Kingg zellsis and prolly demon1(imo hes rly flexible)
Kirya [#54]Kingg zellsis and prolly demon1(imo hes rly flexible)
Zellsis is NOT better than victor wtf
Kingg maybe, but is he really a flex? He plays kay0 and viper for the most part
Demon1 feels more like a duelist who played smokes because EG had weird roles than a flex tbh
Uncleben [#55]Zellsis is NOT better than victor wtf
Kingg maybe, but is he really a flex? He plays kay0 and viper for the most part
Demon1 feels more like a duelist who played smokes because EG had weird roles than a flex tbh
Well theres no actual definition of flex players
Weird term
Also zellsis is better judging off recent perfomance but we'll see in vct
anyth1ng [#15]crashies is good
He gets 1 flashy clutch and then proceeds to lose most of his aim duels
Hes decent overall but against good teams id rather not have him
Uncleben [#32]For sure som is a really good controller player
I genuinely hope sticking with fns doesn’t ruin his own personal opportunities ( assuming he wants to compete )
ngl I'm surprised nrg didn't start him as duelist last year and try to get marved. He could honestly be the next forsaken with his agent pool
Semen-1 [#58]ngl I'm surprised nrg didn't start him as duelist last year and try to get marved. He could honestly be the next forsaken with his agent pool
I think his duelist is kinda sketchy
His controller is top tier but he was never great on entry
Kirya [#57]He gets 1 flashy clutch and then proceeds to lose most of his aim duels
Hes decent overall but against good teams id rather not have him
true b1sk clears🗿
Uncleben [#13]I think he’s actually slightly underrated
People underestimate how good a support he is because he frags out
Look at his assist numbers
A lot of people say he's the GOAT
Uncleben [#13]I think he’s actually slightly underrated
People underestimate how good a support he is because he frags out
Look at his assist numbers
He isnt underrated 💀
Half the people on this site think he is the GOAT when he so clearly isn’t
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