why is this site meat riding him like he’s a top 5 player or something 💀 bluds really telling me they rather have ethan then zekken
like ethan isn’t a equal to Alex curuso of the 2020 Lakers
Carried by Lebron Demon1 and Anthony Jawgemo
please stop overrating SUPPORT players that aren’t anything without there daddy
Yistyy [#2]Delusional if you think Ethan is overrated, his impact this year has been ridiculous. Pretty much plays his role perfectly
Y’all do overrate him, i didn’t say he was bad, but he’s a SYSTEM player that people on this site are saying he’s a top 5 NA player which is just untrue
Hard2Decipher [#4]Ethan won something, whereas zekken couldnt even make it out of groups in VCT AMERICAS (the easiest region, btw). Maybe let him make out of groups before considering him as a top 5 player. And no, him playing good against 100T should not be considered to be in the top 5.
easiest region was pacific
Sugma [#5]easiest region was pacific
No. Let me list out all the weak teams in both the Pacific and the Americas
Americas
Pacific
Thats it i dont even know any more teams from Pacific which are bad.
Hard2Decipher [#4]Ethan won something, whereas zekken couldnt even make it out of groups in VCT AMERICAS (the easiest region, btw). Maybe let him make out of groups before considering him as a top 5 player. And no, him playing good against 100T should not be considered to be in the top 5.
Ethan won something
winning dosent mean your a top 5 player just because you won, gonna act like there’s not a player named “ BONECOLD “ that has won champs
and why is a loud fan saying americas is the easiest region 💀 where ur about to be the bottom in without ur father
michaelisupset [#8]you are delusional. not only does he have the best support in the game he has the second best clutch rate. this is a TEAM game. I think y’all forget that a lot
derrick had the best clutch rate in 2022 LCQ and b4 and look where that got him, ur using a dumb stat to judge a player lmao
KyLZi [#7]No one agrees with you. That should be a key sign you should reevaluate and find better arguments as to why you are correct rather than citing a basketball reference 3/4 of the site won't understand and isn't that applicable to Valorant.
it’s the most perfect relevancy lmao. what r u waffling about
Hard2Decipher [#9]No. Let me list out all the weak teams in both the Pacific and the Americas
Americas
- MIBR
- FUR
- 100T
- SEN
- KRU
- LEV
Pacific
- DFM
- GE
- TLN
Thats it i dont even know any more teams from Pacific which are bad.
Nah you are midunderstanding. Skill gap is bigger in Americas for sure, but mid table teams in Americas > Pacific. Sen Kru and LEV are much better than Zeta, TS, and RRQ
Shawn23 [#12]derrick had the best clutch rate in 2022 LCQ and b4 and look where that got him, ur using a dumb stat to judge a player lmao
yea and derrek was a great player back then. people thought highly of him. idk why you are so insistent that ethan is overrated when he was the second best player on eg
Yistyy [#15]Nah you are midunderstanding. Skill gap is bigger in Americas for sure, but mid table teams in Americas > Pacific. Sen Kru and LEV are much better than Zeta, TS, and RRQ
dude don’t argue with him he’s a obvious troll
Shawn23 [#14]it’s the most perfect relevancy lmao. what r u waffling about
none of us carefully studied masters of the game on vlr agree with you lil bro, it's time to reevaluate your priorities in life 🤓
michaelisupset [#16]yea and derrek was a great player back then. people thought highly of him. idk why you are so insistent that ethan is overrated when he was the second best player on eg
LMAO, blud said ethan was the 2nd best player, Like Demon1 , Jawg And boostio wasn’t on that team,
Demon1 and Jawg were clearly more valuable and skill terms better then , boostio fell off at champs but b4 was definitely more valuable then ethan
idk what shit ur smoking but i think everyone needs a bit of that dank shit
nutab1e [#18]none of us carefully studied masters of the game on vlr agree with you lil bro, it's time to reevaluate your priorities in life 🤓
14000 post go get some ass or some money, because you clearly have neither 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯💯
spicytuna [#21]bro's the reason sen gets so much hate ☠️
i’m not a sen dick rider like 80% of the fans, called players and the team ass multiple times, but if you had to choose ethan over zekken you’re smoking BBC
I wish I could see this guys face when he realizes there are more roles than duelist and more kills doesn’t mean you’re better.
I know you don’t watch party with coaches (sliggy or Sgares), but if you did you would know they all praise Ethan because they understand the impact he has on making his duelists (jawg and demon1) look so good.
I can tell already that you’re the type of person that thinks a point guard who only scores 10 points but has 10 steals and 15 assists isn’t incredible because the players he sets up are scoring 35.
Shawn23 [#11]Ethan won something
winning dosent mean your a top 5 player just because you won, gonna act like there’s not a player named “ BONECOLD “ that has won champs
and why is a loud fan saying americas is the easiest region 💀 where ur about to be the bottom in without ur father
winning dosent mean your a top 5 player just because you won
I agree:
SEN pick up dephh, zekken from XSET and Sacy, pANcada from LOUD.
Look at SEN 2023 season. FAILURE. Can't even qual to international event.
Shawn23 [#19]LMAO, blud said ethan was the 2nd best player, Like Demon1 , Jawg And boostio wasn’t on that team,
Demon1 and Jawg were clearly more valuable and skill terms better then , boostio fell off at champs but b4 was definitely more valuable then ethan
idk what shit ur smoking but i think everyone needs a bit of that dank shit
you are very very dumb. the fact that nobody agrees with you is telling
LouBag [#23]I wish I could see this guys face when he realizes there are more roles than duelist and more kills doesn’t mean you’re better.
I know you don’t watch party with coaches (sliggy or Sgares), but if you did you would know they all praise Ethan because they understand the impact he has on making his duelists (jawg and demon1) look so good.
I can tell already that you’re the type of person that thinks a point guard who only scores 10 points but has 10 steals and 15 assists isn’t incredible because the players he sets up are scoring 35.
ok i’ll make it easy for you
You Can’t be the best team in the world with shit duelist and best support in the world
You can be the best team in the world with the best duelist and shit support
any duelist can make a support player look good, a support player can do the same ig but ethan has been the same player for the last 2 years, demon1 is just that damn good ( lebron ) he makes him look that good and y’all overrate him for it lmaoaoaoaoaoao!!!!!!!’
Shawn23 [#11]Ethan won something
winning dosent mean your a top 5 player just because you won, gonna act like there’s not a player named “ BONECOLD “ that has won champs
and why is a loud fan saying americas is the easiest region 💀 where ur about to be the bottom in without ur father
Imagine talking to a casual fan and telling him Zekken is a top 5 player. The first question the casual asks will be his achievement and what will your reply be, he couldn't even make it out of groups. LOL be realistic, if somebody is top 5 itw he/she should have at least cleared regionals.
And bonecold might have been top 5 back in 2021 when I wasnt watching, but clearly he isn't now because he is unable to qualify in the regional(VCT EMEA) league.
Grow up this is real life nobody other than your close friends/family care about how close you were to winning, they only care about the final result
Shawn23 [#26]ok i’ll make it easy for you
You Can’t be the best team in the world with shit duelist and best support in the world
You can be the best team in the world with the best duelist and shit support
any duelist can make a support player look good, a support player can do the same ig but ethan has been the same player for the last 2 years, demon1 is just that damn good ( lebron ) he makes him look that good and y’all overrate him for it lmaoaoaoaoaoao!!!!!!!’
The only reason demon1 is considered the best duelist in the world is because he had Ethan to make him look good.
You think it was just some “miracle scouting and lucky coincidence” that turned a nobody t3 duelist and Jawgemo into superstars?
It was having the best flash utility support and the best hitscan utility support that carried the team to a championship.
Demon1 is fantastic and so is Jawgemo, but they would have been watching those finals from home if they didn’t have ethan and c0m and the fact you can’t see that is why everyone is laughing at you.
Shawn23 [#14]it’s the most perfect relevancy lmao. what r u waffling about
" 3/4 of the site won't understand and isn't that applicable to Valorant." No its not. explain why in valorant terms. if you are correct do a better job
Shawn23 [#26]ok i’ll make it easy for you
You Can’t be the best team in the world with shit duelist and best support in the world
You can be the best team in the world with the best duelist and shit support
any duelist can make a support player look good, a support player can do the same ig but ethan has been the same player for the last 2 years, demon1 is just that damn good ( lebron ) he makes him look that good and y’all overrate him for it lmaoaoaoaoaoao!!!!!!!’
Nah, you legit can't be the best in the world with a shit support anymore. that statement is wrong
LouBag [#28]The only reason demon1 is considered the best duelist in the world is because he had Ethan to make him look good.
You think it was just some “miracle scouting and lucky coincidence” that turned a nobody t3 duelist and Jawgemo into superstars?
It was having the best flash utility support and the best hitscan utility support that carried the team to a championship.
Demon1 is fantastic and so is Jawgemo, but they would have been watching those finals from home if they didn’t have ethan and c0m and the fact you can’t see that is why everyone is laughing at you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA0_1NNgCR4 Most of these clips what is ethan doing to help demon get 4ks and aces ? NOTHING...
You think it was just some “miracle scouting and lucky coincidence” that turned a nobody t3 duelist and Jawgemo into superstars?
its a known fact that demon1 shit on EG in scrims and they picked him up
It was having the best flash utility support and the best hitscan utility support that carried the team to a championship.
is thatg why they were 0-5 before demon1 ? Is that why in the last 2 and half years EG DID NOTHING??????? WITH HIM ON THE ROSTER? he just magically became the best support in the world after demon1 saved them? Like you just sound corny.
KyLZi [#31]Nah, you legit can't be the best in the world with a shit support anymore. that statement is wrong
cryo was the 2nd best chamber with bcj as his support... not saying bcj was bad but hes a c+ at best.
Shawn23 [#33]cryo was the 2nd best chamber with bcj as his support... not saying bcj was bad but hes a c+ at best.
and they lost to Optic and fpx neither won champs. Also, BCJ wasn't the support lol or at least he plays way different roles than ethan.
KyLZi [#7]No one agrees with you. That should be a key sign you should reevaluate and find better arguments as to why you are correct rather than citing a basketball reference 3/4 of the site won't understand and isn't that applicable to Valorant.
Bodied that clown
michaelisupset [#25]you are very very dumb. the fact that nobody agrees with you is telling
u just said ethan is the 2nd best player on eg u sound dumb
KyLZi [#39]I do want to point out how tough of a decision it would be to have to pick between Zekken and Ethan. genuinely don't know which I would choose
it’s not….
Mechanics
Zekken>>>>>>>Ethan
“ sUpPoRt “
Fucking anyone can throw a flash and call it support 🤣🤣🤣
babysasuke [#41]bro saw one post about ethan being a top 5 player in Americas and lost his mind kkkkkkkkkk
people act like i’m calling ethan ass, blud just isn’t too 5 in americas probably not 10 either you can say he’s a top “ support “ but…
Fraggers>IGL>Support>Coaching people act like it’s the hardest thing to do in the world
jawn [#44]Ethan has been consistently great no matter what roster he has played in so it's pretty warranted
sure he was , Blud was cooking on EG before demon1, blud was cooking on NRG and was cooking on 100T
Fucking winning anything Before demon1 every team he was on was Mid or below; cooked absolutely NOTHING. he owes his father this hype
Shawn23 [#43]it’s not….
Mechanics
Zekken>>>>>>>Ethan“ sUpPoRt “
Fucking anyone can throw a flash and call it support 🤣🤣🤣
dud now I know you are just a fuckin baiter man
KyLZi [#47]dud now I know you are just a fuckin baiter man
i’m not baiting, i promise you i’m not, I’m just pointing value out, A Fragger and IGL are more important then a support player, Multiple teams wanted Demon1 and only 100T wanted ethan
ethan either goes back to EG or hit tier 2,
Shawn23 [#48]i’m not baiting, i promise you i’m not, I’m just pointing value out, A Fragger and IGL are more important then a support player, Multiple teams wanted Demon1 and only 100T wanted ethan
ethan either goes back to EG or hit tier 2,
yeah but those things aren't mutually exclusive. Ethan has insane mechanics and is a great fragger + the best support in the game. Watch this clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcW7X-0OqNw
Shawn23 [#3]Y’all do overrate him, i didn’t say he was bad, but he’s a SYSTEM player that people on this site are saying he’s a top 5 NA player which is just untrue
it's ok to troll
MerkFreeks [#51]He's one of the best support players in the entire T1 scene. Thats why he's considered one of the best players. Just cus the top 5 isn't all the cracked out duelist players shouldn't matter.
then we should consider fns the best same with valyn if we’re talking support players
Shawn23 [#45]people act like i’m calling ethan ass, blud just isn’t too 5 in americas probably not 10 either you can say he’s a top “ support “ but…
Fraggers>IGL>Support>Coaching people act like it’s the hardest thing to do in the world
He's literally top 5 in the world right now, he's got a trophy to prove it
When le0 did the same thing (but worse) as a support player, people had him and botfajer in top 2 spots
No amount of crying or comparisons is going to take away this this guy is different and unfortunately clears t0nz and zekken rn
babysasuke [#53]He's literally top 5 in the world right now, he's got a trophy to prove it
When le0 did the same thing (but worse) as a support player, people had him and botfajer in top 2 spots
No amount of crying or comparisons is going to take away this this guy is different and unfortunately clears t0nz and zekken rn
ok ur actually trolling blud said the world 🤔need to get his c0ck out ur mouth
Shawn23 [#52]then we should consider fns the best same with valyn if we’re talking support players
he's FNS with aim
Shawn23 [#3]Y’all do overrate him, i didn’t say he was bad, but he’s a SYSTEM player that people on this site are saying he’s a top 5 NA player which is just untrue
drop your top 5 Na players here buckaroo, I need to see this
babysasuke [#53]He's literally top 5 in the world right now, he's got a trophy to prove it
When le0 did the same thing (but worse) as a support player, people had him and botfajer in top 2 spots
No amount of crying or comparisons is going to take away this this guy is different and unfortunately clears t0nz and zekken rn
rare babysasuke w
Danny [#60]Ethan is laughably better than Zekken
is that why every team in NA was trying to get him lol
Shawn23 [#22]i’m not a sen dick rider like 80% of the fans, called players and the team ass multiple times, but if you had to choose ethan over zekken you’re smoking BBC
tbf zekken has better mechanics but Ethan outclasses him in everything else
Tristen11 [#59]drop your top 5 Na players here buckaroo, I need to see this
TenZ
Zekken
Sacy
Pancada
JohnQT
Bonus: Zellsis
Shawn23 [#62]is that why every team in NA was trying to get him lol
zekken is a young up and comer of course people are gonna be tryna sign him
Tristen11 [#59]drop your top 5 Na players here buckaroo, I need to see this
When I say NA i Mean americas but
Aspas, Less, s0m , Kingg, Zekken, Demon1, Leaf, FNS, Would be more valuable to a Team then ethan, ( No Order )
Pure mechanics ( All Skill ) - Demon1, Asuna, Zekken, Aspas, TenZ, Xeppa, Less, NZR, kingg, crashies leaf, cryo all over him,
I'd rather have zekken but pretending like there's a dozen ethans you can pick from is delusional. If anything its much harder to find a player with as good util usage as ethan with the combo of his mechanics than to find a cracked duelist sure they won't be to the level of D1 or Aspas but you be about 90% the way there. There's maybe 2 or 3 players itw who can do what ethan does.
Shawn23 [#68]When I say NA i Mean americas but
Aspas, Less, s0m , Kingg, Zekken, Demon1, Leaf, FNS, Would be more valuable to a Team then ethan, ( No Order )
Pure mechanics ( All Skill ) - Demon1, Asuna, Zekken, Aspas, TenZ, Xeppa, Less, NZR, kingg, crashies leaf, cryo all over him,
why is this man meat riding FNS like he’s a top 5 player or something 💀 bluds really telling me they rather have FNS then Ethan
like FNS isn’t a equal to Alex curuso of the 2020 Lakers
Carried by Lebron Yay and Anthony Victor
please stop overrating SUPPORT players that aren’t anything without there daddy
Shawn23 [#68]When I say NA i Mean americas but
Aspas, Less, s0m , Kingg, Zekken, Demon1, Leaf, FNS, Would be more valuable to a Team then ethan, ( No Order )
Pure mechanics ( All Skill ) - Demon1, Asuna, Zekken, Aspas, TenZ, Xeppa, Less, NZR, kingg, crashies leaf, cryo all over him,
why is this man meat riding FNS like he’s a top 5 player or something 💀 bluds really telling me they rather have FNS then Ethan
like FNS isn’t a equal to Alex curuso of the 2020 Lakers
Carried by Lebron Yay and Anthony Victor
please stop overrating SUPPORT players that aren’t anything without there daddy
Shawn23 [#68]When I say NA i Mean americas but
Aspas, Less, s0m , Kingg, Zekken, Demon1, Leaf, FNS, Would be more valuable to a Team then ethan, ( No Order )
Pure mechanics ( All Skill ) - Demon1, Asuna, Zekken, Aspas, TenZ, Xeppa, Less, NZR, kingg, crashies leaf, cryo all over him,
okay saying in americas is understandable , this is somewhat valid
Shawn23 [#62]is that why every team in NA was trying to get him lol
Zekken being sought after doesn't mean that ethan isn't sought after
you're an idiot genuinely
Danny [#75]Zekken being sought after doesn't mean that ethan isn't sought after
you're an idiot genuinely
dude ur name is danny
stfu.
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