why do people rate him, he seemed barely above average in t2?
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cboomer [#2]Bc people don’t watch t2 they think heretics and vitality built a good team when in reality they got the 5th best option in each role
Yeah you definitely know better than the coaches
Mortadelo [#3]Yeah you definitely know better than the coaches
well the coaches may be making good signings but the teams also might me overrated
Mortadelo [#3]Yeah you definitely know better than the coaches
People said this about dephh on Sen, yeah I know better than the coaches, or maybe this game suffers from nepotism imagine thinking some bang average bum who was tossed around every vrl league is gonna do shit against t1 pros LFMAO
cboomer [#5]People said this about dephh on Sen, yeah I know better than the coaches, or maybe this game suffers from nepotism imagine thinking some bang average bum who was tossed around every vrl league is gonna do shit against t1 pros LFMAO
this is a t2 player who has no connections to any tier 1 people except an IGL who now coaches for t2 in NA
there is no Nepotism here
Targu1n [#6]Look at his time on Bonk if you wanna see how amazing he was/is
The bonk offseason roster was a genuine force - theres a reason they beat parla shortly after forming, who then immediately went on to upset actual t1 teams
He was -11 when they beat Parla lol bro was a ult orb
Targu1n [#7]this is a t2 player who has no connections to any tier 1 people except an IGL who now coaches for t2 in NA
there is no Nepotism here
there’s obviously nepotism because he’s shit, except it’s braindead nepotism because heretics could get a Spanish init Yurii who’s just as average as kicks if not a little better because yurii didn’t get tossed around 5 different regions
cboomer [#8]He was -11 when they beat Parla lol bro was a ult orb
hence why I was talking about a timeframe and a team here^^
heres kicks diffing an former tier 1 team during the same offseason https://www.vlr.gg/150596/big-vs-bonk-red-bull-home-ground-3-emea-swiss-qual-swiss-r5
cboomer [#5]People said this about dephh on Sen, yeah I know better than the coaches, or maybe this game suffers from nepotism imagine thinking some bang average bum who was tossed around every vrl league is gonna do shit against t1 pros LFMAO
Yes, you're right, Kicks, RunneR, Benjy, Woot and Riens are all TH and VIT owners family
cboomer [#9]there’s obviously nepotism because he’s shit, except it’s braindead nepotism because heretics could get a Spanish init Yurii who’s just as average as kicks if not a little better because yurii didn’t get tossed around 5 different regions
he played in 2 regions at least go with a factual narrative
and its clear you have very little info about him and havent bothered actually watching his past seasons (or even clicking on the stats tab) so you have fun hating on young players^^
Targu1n [#12]he played in 2 regions at least go with a factual narrative
and its clear you have very little info about him and havent bothered actually watching his past seasons (or even clicking on the stats tab) so you have fun hating on young players^^
I watched him get shit on in tier 2
It’s 3 regions btw cmon now France Northern Europe and Germany
Mortadelo [#11]Yes, you're right, Kicks, RunneR, Benjy, Woot and Riens are all TH and VIT owners family
Gotta be because they suck ass rip those teams
As a loyal vitality fan this is why I can’t rep that org in this game, no French to carry no win
cboomer [#13]I watched him get shit on in tier 2
It’s 3 regions btw cmon now France Northern Europe and Germany
.... yea you didnt watch
the france was an offseason tournament in which bonk, a polaris team, entered
Targu1n [#10]hence why I was talking about a timeframe and a team here^^
heres kicks diffing an former tier 1 team during the same offseason https://www.vlr.gg/150596/big-vs-bonk-red-bull-home-ground-3-emea-swiss-qual-swiss-r5
this was a bo1 and he went +2
Targu1n [#15].... yea you didnt watch
the france was an offseason tournament in which bonk, a polaris team, entered
Hey bro he played in polaris, coupe de France and, dach evolution
I know counting is hard but that’s 3 regions
Any player who can’t use utility properly against unicorns of love isn’t gonna use utility properly against giants
cboomer [#14]Gotta be because they suck ass rip those teams
As a loyal vitality fan this is why I can’t rep that org in this game, no French to carry no win
Specifically RunneR and Woot I've been knowing they would be in VCT for a long time. I have posts in RunneR games almost a year old. If you can't see the talent it's fine, you will next year
Targu1n [#10]hence why I was talking about a timeframe and a team here^^
heres kicks diffing an former tier 1 team during the same offseason https://www.vlr.gg/150596/big-vs-bonk-red-bull-home-ground-3-emea-swiss-qual-swiss-r5
Imagine the criteria for being tier 1 ready is going +2 against a t2 team with one goat named twister
Mortadelo [#18]Specifically RunneR and Woot I've been knowing they would be in VCT for a long time. I have posts in RunneR games almost a year old. If you can't see the talent it's fine, you will next year
At the bottom of the leaderboard the talent will shine so bright
loudsimp [#16]this was a bo1 and he went +2
then click on the stats page if you wanna see him the entire tournament xD aint a worse state line either
cboomer [#17]Hey bro he played in polaris, coupe de France and, dach evolution
I know counting is hard but that’s 3 regions
Any player who can’t use utility properly against unicorns of love isn’t gonna use utility properly against giants
If you were the manager of VIT who would you pick up then?
Targu1n [#21]then click on the stats page if you wanna see him the entire tournament xD aint a worse state line either
This is the nepotism im talking about you’re defending a bum for what reason lmfao, I watched all of the emea VRLs for the most this dude was going +2 every game in probably the worst vrl in Europe lmfao
cboomer [#17]Hey bro he played in polaris, coupe de France and, dach evolution
I know counting is hard but that’s 3 regions
Any player who can’t use utility properly against unicorns of love isn’t gonna use utility properly against giants
again the france is an offseason tournament, since you apparently watched you will have noticed that its a different format and didnt require teams to swap regions as you can tell by bonk immediately playing in polaris after the offseason ended
hey parla had a bunch of rejects because they played in EMEA tournaments during the offseason! how could they practice!
capital_d_colon [#22]If you were the manager of VIT who would you pick up then?
idk who speaks English from the vrls but not kicks lmfao
Targu1n [#21]then click on the stats page if you wanna see him the entire tournament xD aint a worse state line either
I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential to be tier 1 in 1 or 2 years but I haven't seen anything that says he is ready now.
Targu1n [#24]again the france is an offseason tournament, since you apparently watched you will have noticed that its a different format and didnt require teams to swap regions as you can tell by bonk immediately playing in polaris after the offseason ended
hey parla had a bunch of rejects because they played in EMEA tournaments during the offseason! how could they practice!
vai shorar
cboomer [#23]This is the nepotism im talking about you’re defending a bum for what reason lmfao, I watched all of the emea VRLs for the most this dude was going +2 every game in probably the worst vrl in Europe lmfao
it is clear you arent interested in actually looking at his stats, so just have fun
if it makes you happy hating on a tier 2 player getting an opportunity go for it, and keep crying about nepotism while your at it
Targu1n [#28]it is clear you arent interested in actually looking at his stats, so just have fun
if it makes you happy hating on a tier 2 player getting an opportunity go for it, and keep crying about nepotism while your at it
His stats are garbage lol u just showed me a dude going +2 against a tier 2 team as proof he’s tier 1 ready
loudsimp [#26]I'm not saying he doesn't have the potential to be tier 1 in 1 or 2 years but I haven't seen anything that says he is ready now.
he was one of the best players in polaris 2 seasons in a row (back when it was still competitive with actual teams... not the poor husk it is now), has preformed well against tier 1 teams every time he played them and has put up incredible numbers in scrims allegedly
Vit has trialed him for 2 years in a row now and have deemed him worth signing this year so make of that what you will
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