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I still think koldamenta is holding G2 back

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#1
Derke_choked_in_finals

As I've been saying long time ago when acend were having rough time closing in matches cned,starxo,cold,and kiles have heavy firing power even tho kolda is a great I'll but they just needed a little to win matches but kolda couldn't bring enough frags,now they added zeek who has insane firepower and they are top on eu right now,so even tho G2 qualified for EMEA playoffs I still think they will face same problems acend faced I mean mixwell,nukkye,keloqz,avova all have insane firepower but kolda doesn't bring enough to the table for G2 to be eu number 1 team as we have seen he can easily get sova gapped, so I think g2 needs a sova that can match their other players to be a contestant for top 1 spot in eu or even world thoughts?

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Zortex
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They got him because there was no other tier 1 IGL available not because of his firepower

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Mortadelo
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Zortex [#2]

They got him because there was no other tier 1 IGL available not because of his firepower

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Mortadelo
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He is like a third coach, the amount of work that he does is insane. Watching Vods until very late in the night for the team. I can guarantee you that the rest of the team doesn’t think like you

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Glycoroldas
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Mortadelo [#3]

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I think people are arguing that he would be more useful as a coach rather than an IGL. There is no doubt that this guy grinds, my opinion however is that G2 without kolda would fall apart really quickly in early and mid rounds without kolda's calls. People have to remember that coaches can't talk during the middle of the rounds

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Derke_choked_in_finals
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Zortex [#2]

They got him because there was no other tier 1 IGL available not because of his firepower

I mean we all know they just could do the same thing as acend,and switch mixwell to igl since he switched roles and get a player that can frag

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Glycoroldas [#5]

I think people are arguing that he would be more useful as a coach rather than an IGL. There is no doubt that this guy grinds, my opinion however is that G2 without kolda would fall apart really quickly in early and mid rounds without kolda's calls. People have to remember that coaches can't talk during the middle of the rounds

I deleted it because It was the wrong thread

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asseater4life
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Derke_choked_in_finals [#6]

I mean we all know they just could do the same thing as acend,and switch mixwell to igl since he switched roles and get a player that can frag

G2 did try that. Mixwell did not like it at all

He said himself to not like the IGL role at all and instead be a second caller like now.

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Derke_choked_in_finals
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Glycoroldas [#5]

I think people are arguing that he would be more useful as a coach rather than an IGL. There is no doubt that this guy grinds, my opinion however is that G2 without kolda would fall apart really quickly in early and mid rounds without kolda's calls. People have to remember that coaches can't talk during the middle of the rounds

Nah man acend is looking cleaner then ever even when they dropped their igl+ when G2 face fpx again it will be just sova gap again

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Derke_choked_in_finals [#6]

I mean we all know they just could do the same thing as acend,and switch mixwell to igl since he switched roles and get a player that can frag

No mix as IGL didn’t work, he is an absolute god like this, don’t disturb him

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Derke_choked_in_finals
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asseater4life [#8]

G2 did try that. Mixwell did not like it at all

He said himself to not like the IGL role at all and instead be a second caller like now.

I know but I just don't see it man I don't see them beating acend guild and fpx

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Derke_choked_in_finals [#9]

Nah man acend is looking cleaner then ever even when they dropped their igl+ when G2 face fpx again it will be just sova gap again

Bonecold replaced Koldamenta, they frag the same. They are looking good because Zeek fragging > Bonecold fragging

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Derke_choked_in_finals [#11]

I know but I just don't see it man I don't see them beating acend guild and fpx

Yes, because Bonkar frags a lot more than koldamenta….

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Derke_choked_in_finals [#6]

I mean we all know they just could do the same thing as acend,and switch mixwell to igl since he switched roles and get a player that can frag

There needs to be a bigger sample of both G2 and Acend games to see which approach is better for November LAN. My hypothesis is that Acend can be countered with a bigger sample of VODs and I currently don't see enough flexibility on the roster if all of the sudden they had to change their playstyle to address the counter strats. At the same time, it is uncertain whether G2 can beat Acend with arguably worse firepower, but perhaps compensate that with superior flexibility

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Mortadelo [#13]

Yes, because Bonkar frags a lot more than koldamenta….

What they play different role + now compare Leo to koldamenta HUUUUUGE sova gap the same with fpx shao gapped kolda

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Never_Wrong
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Truly an ignorant gold nova post.
Holding them back from... qualifying to EMEA for the 1st time ever in their 1st run? Mixwell IGL? You really don't know what you're saying. It is he who does't feel comfortable shotcalling.
Kolda in G2 was the missing key, because the previous roster lacked everything but firepower. Allowing Mixwell to a more comfortable position is paying off as you can see he's doing a truly amazing job.
Kolda's impact is remarkable. If you only look at stats you don't know anything about the game. He has impact, he brings value in an outside the game and their tactical gameplay, mid-round calls and so on have improved dramatically, and that's because of him. Opening up space, keeping the pace and all the winning stuff that looking at a weak k/d table don't reflect.

You're literally only looking at firepower.........
Watch some top CS teams, look at their support players and how valuable they are and then look at their stats

Thank God this opinions don't go nowhere. Btw Acend with Kolda won Masters 1. You don't even know this game tf #17

Newfag + bait name + upvoting yourself. Ok

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Derke_choked_in_finals [#15]

What they play different role + now compare Leo to koldamenta HUUUUUGE sova gap the same with fpx shao gapped kolda

Man, Bonkar and Koldamenta both play sova and a flasher + IGL, is literally the same.

And about Leo and Shao they are not IGL, is very very hard to frag while doing it, look at mix he frags more now flexing than before with Jett because he doesn’t IGL

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Mortadelo [#12]

Bonecold replaced Koldamenta, they frag the same. They are looking good because Zeek fragging > Bonecold fragging

Exactly. Such a dumb post

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G2 finally starts looking tactically sound and performs well, beating teams previously better than them.

Vlrgg idiots: Koldamenta bad cuz he no kill.

He's already showed how good of an IGL is with two teams that he had to basically start from the ground up. He is literally the definition of playcalling and playing for others, which is why he rarely frags. Calling out Kolda after this past tourney may go down as one of the worst takes on this site

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Derke_choked_in_finals
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Never_Wrong [#16]

Truly an ignorant gold nova post.
Holding them back from... qualifying to EMEA for the 1st time ever in their 1st run? Mixwell IGL? You really don't know what you're saying. It is he who does't feel comfortable shotcalling.
Kolda in G2 was the missing key, because the previous roster lacked everything but firepower. Allowing Mixwell to a more comfortable position is paying off as you can see he's doing a truly amazing job.
Kolda's impact is remarkable. If you only look at stats you don't know anything about the game. He has impact, he brings value in an outside the game and their tactical gameplay, mid-round calls and so on have improved dramatically, and that's because of him. Opening up space, keeping the pace and all the winning stuff that looking at a weak k/d table don't reflect.

You're literally only looking at firepower.........
Watch some top CS teams, look at their support players and how valuable they are and then look at their stats

Thank God this opinions don't go nowhere. Btw Acend with Kolda won Masters 1. You don't even know this game tf #17

Newfag + bait name + upvoting yourself. Ok

Wow imagine having a civil Convo Without cursing, cursing=truth i Guess

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Never_Wrong
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Derke_choked_in_finals [#20]

Wow imagine having a civil Convo Without cursing, cursing=truth i Guess

When did I curse and how is that relevant to the main argument? Is that all?
Also stop upvoting yourself, it's pretty lame

#22
Derke_choked_in_finals
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Never_Wrong [#21]

When did I curse and how is that relevant to the main argument? Is that all?
Also stop upvoting yourself, it's pretty lame

Lmao stop malding and go breath some fresh air outside

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Never_Wrong
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Derke_choked_in_finals [#22]

Lmao stop malding and go breath some fresh air outside

That's the reply I wanted to see to confirm my doubts. Thanks

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I have the necessity of telling you guys that G2, out of the 8 that qualified for this first Challenger, is the only one that started with a completely new core in the roster. Out of the 5 players, only AvovA-Nukkye played along before.

G2 is still a very recent roster compared to the ones like Fnatic, Liquid, Acend, Guild, FPX, BDS, Vitality, Alliance, NiP, Giants, etc. and they still reached top4.

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Jockie
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GooberBoy [#19]

G2 finally starts looking tactically sound and performs well, beating teams previously better than them.

Vlrgg idiots: Koldamenta bad cuz he no kill.

He's already showed how good of an IGL is with two teams that he had to basically start from the ground up. He is literally the definition of playcalling and playing for others, which is why he rarely frags. Calling out Kolda after this past tourney may go down as one of the worst takes on this site

Such a nice way to let that sink.

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Derke_choked_in_finals
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ValdemieGC [#24]

I have the necessity of telling you guys that G2, out of the 8 that qualified for this first Challenger, is the only one that started with a completely new core in the roster. Out of the 5 players, only AvovA-Nukkye played along before.

G2 is still a very recent roster compared to the ones like Fnatic, Liquid, Acend, Guild, FPX, BDS, Vitality, Alliance, NiP, Giants, etc. and they still reached top4.

I do acknowledge that but still itiz what it.btw did u lose hope on heretics?

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Derke_choked_in_finals [#26]

I do acknowledge that but still itiz what it.btw did u lose hope on heretics?

On your question: yes

I already give up on them bc of the dependence that Lowel still has on Sage and only Sage, I really don't like Patitek aggresive and greedy play as a smoker and Ardiis lurks and irregular play with Sova.

I basically think they were basically the problem in G2 (patitek and ardiis) and TH will take a loooooong time to fix that.

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