and you can find the proof of this in multiple threads on here of people trying to defend the use of a lifethreatning drug, arguably the drug that takes the most lives maybe bar alcohol.
stay away from nicotine kids, snus, vape, cigarretes and take care of your health.
edit: refrain from reading this thread too cus that too can lead to braindamage.
My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87104. This is my confession. If you're watching this tape, I'm probably dead, murdered by my brother-in-law Hank Schrader. Hank has been building a meth empire for over a year now and using me as his chemist. Shortly after my 50th birthday, Hank came to me with a rather, shocking proposition. He asked that I use my chemistry knowledge to cook methamphetamine, which he would then sell using his connections in the drug world. Connections that he made through his career with the DEA. I was... astounded, I... I always thought that Hank was a very moral man and I was... thrown, confused, but I was also particularly vulnerable at the time, something he knew and took advantage of. I was reeling from a cancer diagnosis that was poised to bankrupt my family. Hank took me on a ride along, and showed me just how much money even a small meth operation could make. And I was weak. I didn't want my family to go into financial ruin so I agreed. Every day, I think back at that moment with regret. I quickly realized that I was in way over my head, and Hank had a partner, a man named Gustavo Fring, a businessman. Hank essentially sold me into servitude to this man, and when I tried to quit, Fring threatened my family. I didn't know where to turn. Eventually, Hank and Fring had a falling out. From what I can gather, Hank was always pushing for a greater share of the business, to which Fring flatly refused to give him, and things escalated. Fring was able to arrange, uh I guess I guess you call it a "hit" on my brother-in-law, and failed, but Hank was seriously injured, and I wound up paying his medical bills which amounted to a little over $177,000. Upon recovery, Hank was bent on revenge, working with a man named Hector Salamanca, he plotted to kill Fring, and did so. In fact, the bomb that he used was built by me, and he gave me no option in it. I have often contemplated suicide, but I'm a coward. I wanted to go to the police, but I was frightened. Hank had risen in the ranks to become the head of the Albuquerque DEA, and about that time, to keep me in line, he took my children from me. For 3 months he kept them. My wife, who up until that point, had no idea of my criminal activities, was horrified to learn what I had done, why Hank had taken our children. We were scared. I was in Hell, I hated myself for what I had brought upon my family. Recently, I tried once again to quit, to end this nightmare, and in response, he gave me this. I can't take this anymore. I live in fear every day that Hank will kill me, or worse, hurt my family. I... All I could think to do was to make this video in hope that the world will finally see this man, for what he really is.
Okoretro [#7]nicotine itself is not lifethreatening at all lol
can literally cause oral cancer but go off
Bonkbonk201 [#8]i have no addictions (as i have an energy drink with 200mg of caffeine in front of me)
as long as its 1 per day, you should be fine
asdfgh [#11]apparently energy drinks are fine tho
while we are at it lets boycott giants too for having burger king sponsor
TrialRunnr [#15]your braindamage is showing
i have never in my life used any type f nicotine product expect tried haha,cope more
babysasuke [#18]can confirm, ive been nicomaxing for years and have serious braindamage
Zynichino 😻🤤
asdfgh [#17]i have never in my life used any type f nicotine product expect tried haha,cope more
well then you must have been dropped as a kid if you think 200mg of caffeine has the same health risks as regular consumption of nicotine.
TrialRunnr [#14]while we are at it lets boycott giants too for having burger king sponsor
sure,unironically it would be great
TrialRunnr [#20]well then you must have been dropped as a kid if you think 200mg of caffeine has the same health risks as regular consumption of nicotine.
ITS NOT THE FUCKING CAFFEINE ITS THE PRODUCT DUMBASS
unless u usuall consume pure caffeine then for sure mb
asdfgh [#23]ITS NOT THE FUCKING CAFFEINE ITS THE PRODUCT DUMBASS
unless u usuall consume pure caffeine then for sure mb
and zero sugar alternatives exist for those who wanna be health conscious also redbull only has like 100mg of caffeine if I remember correctly, Monster has 200mg, never heard of cancer free nicotine tho.
asdfgh [#23]ITS NOT THE FUCKING CAFFEINE ITS THE PRODUCT DUMBASS
unless u usuall consume pure caffeine then for sure mb
you are a fucking brainlet
asdfgh [#11]apparently energy drinks are fine tho
elaborate on which parts of energy drinks are harmful and cancer causing
TrialRunnr [#9]can literally cause oral cancer but go off
sure if you say so https://cancer-code-europe.iarc.fr/index.php/en/ecac-12-ways/tobacco/199-nicotine-cause-cancer
TrialRunnr [#10]as long as its 1 per day, you should be fine
i have like 5 a year if that, i just need it sometimes to cope yk
TrialRunnr [#9]can literally cause oral cancer but go off
It is the other chemicals in tobacco, the primary natural source of nicotine, which can cause oral cancer.
If you can take in just nicotine, it just makes you a bit sharper. Like Coffee. And about as addictive as caffeine too.
Just nicotine is good for performance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XiiNKjZ9rg
Problem is that most of the ways that we consume nicotine come with tobacco and/or involve smoking (destroys your cardiovascular system and causes braindamage).
So the only ways to consume nicotine without adverse impacts other than addiction, are nicotine gum and nicotine patches.
Bonkbonk201 [#31]https://gyazo.com/4f3d1dd606783bdfc6185363e8df45ce point unclear
he said nictoine causes cancer (which it doesn't)
Okoretro [#32]he said nictoine causes cancer (which it doesn't)
he linked something which said plainly nicotine does not cause cancer, that's why I'm confused
babysasuke [#18]can confirm, ive been nicomaxing for years and have serious braindamage
my condolences
blueberry [#27]elaborate on which parts of energy drinks are harmful and cancer causing
sucralose and aspartame that are used in sugar free energy drinks cause cancer scientifically proven, an insane amount of b vitamins in energy drinks can cause nerve damage and liver damage,too much taurine causes damage to not fully developed brains,fructose corn syrup that is used in energy drinks is the leading cause for obesity
Okoretro [#28]sure if you say so https://cancer-code-europe.iarc.fr/index.php/en/ecac-12-ways/tobacco/199-nicotine-cause-cancer
nicotine is literally a promoter bruh which helps the growth of cancer causing tumors, its not gonna create cancer tumors on its own but if your prone to it, its just gonna speed up the process, which isnt technically causing cancer but is just as bad,
but yea by itself it cant cause cancer.
TrialRunnr [#25]and zero sugar alternatives exist for those who wanna be health conscious also redbull only has like 100mg of caffeine if I remember correctly, Monster has 200mg, never heard of cancer free nicotine tho.
bro u are literally so clueless i almost feel bad no joking, the zero sugar is EVEN worse than the sugar one,its the one that causes the cancer most likely,pls stop talking u literally have no fucking clue about this subject and stop acting like u care about health if u dont even care enough to research the shit u put in ur own body
TrialRunnr [#37]nicotine is literally a promoter bruh which helps the growth of cancer causing tumors, its not gonna create cancer tumors on its own but if your prone to it, its just gonna speed up the process, which isnt technically causing cancer but is just as bad,
but yea by itself it cant cause cancer.
"can literally cause oral cancer but go off" suddenly taking away your statement?
TrialRunnr [#25]and zero sugar alternatives exist for those who wanna be health conscious also redbull only has like 100mg of caffeine if I remember correctly, Monster has 200mg, never heard of cancer free nicotine tho.
my brand (rockstar) just has differing chemical setup than monster and from my research (https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0818094000017/energy-drink-rockstar)
(https://world.openfoodfacts.org/product/0070847028406/monster-energy)
Redbull is just liquid puke idc what anyone says.
asdfgh [#40]bro u are literally so clueless i almost feel bad no joking, the zero sugar is EVEN worse than the sugar one,its the one that causes the cancer most likely,pls stop talking u literally have no fucking clue about this subject and stop acting like u care about health if u dont even care enough to research the shit u put in ur own body
my bad i'll trust my health information from anyone other on vlr.gg in the future, truly the goat for calling out this bs !
TrialRunnr [#37]nicotine is literally a promoter bruh which helps the growth of cancer causing tumors, its not gonna create cancer tumors on its own but if your prone to it, its just gonna speed up the process, which isnt technically causing cancer but is just as bad,
but yea by itself it cant cause cancer.
so are many ingredients in energy drinks fucking retard,everything acidic is a promoter of cancer cells,pls just stop talking
asdfgh [#42]"you are a fucking brainlet🤓🤓🤓"
says the one who thinks a zero sugar energy drink is more unhealthy than the original
asdfgh [#40]bro u are literally so clueless i almost feel bad no joking, the zero sugar is EVEN worse than the sugar one,its the one that causes the cancer most likely,pls stop talking u literally have no fucking clue about this subject and stop acting like u care about health if u dont even care enough to research the shit u put in ur own body
bro its still fking crazy to me how you think 1 can a day of an energy drink is even comparable, like please show me cases where 1 can of energy drink/day has lead to peoples death without any underlying issues.
what a idiotic fking hill to die on.
Zerphyr1 [#48]says the one who thinks a zero sugar energy drink is more unhealthy than the original
yeah ok it was nice talking to u,gl in life!
asdfgh [#36]sucralose and aspartame that are used in sugar free energy drinks cause cancer scientifically proven, an insane amount of b vitamins in energy drinks can cause nerve damage and liver damage,too much taurine causes damage to not fully developed brains,fructose corn syrup that is used in energy drinks is the leading cause for obesity
you are an idiot
Mayo clinic found that a lot of those studies were conducted on RATS
they concluded artificial sweeteners have no cancer causing relation in humans lol
leading cause for obesity is outrageous portion sizes and poor diet choice, if i drank 3 redbulls a day i'd still be fit because I don't consume 3 mcdonalds meals a day
asdfgh [#50]yeah ok it was nice talking to u,gl in life!
the guy who knows so much about nicotine and energy drinks thinks that nicotine is placebo, "if u use nicotine regularly it literally doesn't do shit expect placebo".
TrialRunnr [#49]bro its still fking crazy to me how you think 1 can a day of an energy drink is even comparable, like please show me cases where 1 can of energy drink/day has lead to peoples death without any underlying issues.
what a idiotic fking hill to die on.
crazy how ur still arguing with 0 evidence,u are so fucking stupid man,show me a case where a nicotine pouch has lead to someone's death without any underlying issues
there are many very unheathy things in society that are normalized but it doesn't mean they are safer
Zerphyr1 [#52]the guy who knows so much about nicotine and energy drinks thinks that nicotine is placebo, "if u use nicotine regularly it literally doesn't do shit expect placebo".
i understand ur point,can u stop replying now this conversation is over
cboomer [#51]you are an idiot
Mayo clinic found that a lot of those studies were conducted on RATS
they concluded artificial sweeteners have no cancer causing relation in humans lol
leading cause for obesity is outrageous portion sizes and poor diet choice, if i drank 3 redbulls a day i'd still be fit because I don't consume 3 mcdonalds meals a day
thats actually kinda true, appreciate it!
USCK [#54]What about weed ):
Many college students have gone to college and gotten hooked on drugs, marijuana, and alcohol
Listen, stop trying to be somebody else
Don't try to be someone else
Be yourself and know that that's good enough
Don't try to be someone else
Don't try to be like someone else, don't try to act like someone else
Be yourself, be secure with yourself
Rely and trust upon your own decisions
On your own beliefs
You understand the things that I've taught you
Not to drink alcohol, not to use drugs
Don't use that cocaine or marijuana, because that stuff is highly addictive
When people become weed-heads
They become sluggish, lazy, stupid, and unconcerned
Sluggish, lazy, stupid, and unconcerned
That's all marijuana does to you, okay? This is mom
Unless you're taking it under doctor's, um, control
Then it's regulated
Do not smoke marijuana, do not consume alcohol
Do not get in the car with someone who is inebriated
This is mom, call me, bye
asdfgh [#36]sucralose and aspartame that are used in sugar free energy drinks cause cancer scientifically proven, an insane amount of b vitamins in energy drinks can cause nerve damage and liver damage,too much taurine causes damage to not fully developed brains,fructose corn syrup that is used in energy drinks is the leading cause for obesity
sucralose and aspartame that are used in sugar free energy drinks cause cancer scientifically proven
Scientifically proven false. See: https://www.who.int/news/item/14-07-2023-aspartame-hazard-and-risk-assessment-results-released
an insane amount of b vitamins in energy drinks can cause nerve damage and liver damage
Only Niacin, and not in the dosages of common energy drinks. A monster has ~40mg, or 2.5x the RDA. It can cause damage from 1.5g, or 100 times the RDA. Not even close. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548710/
too much taurine causes damage to not fully developed brains
Energy drinks have around 1000mg of taurine. Taurine is considered safe under 3000mg daily. Though I would like to see your source on its effects on developing brains. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6536745/
fructose corn syrup that is used in energy drinks is the leading cause for obesity
That is simply not true. Obesity is caused when the delicate balance between calories in and calories out gets tipped off. If you eat or drink an overabundance of ANYTHING, cooked chicken breast, rice, vegetables, healthy and unhealthy foods included, you will become overweight.
Also, a majority of energy drinks these days are sugar free. You seem to recognize that as you mentioned artificial sweeteners, but you still brought up high fructose corn syrup?
babysasuke [#58]Many college students have gone to college and gotten hooked on drugs, marijuana, and alcohol
Listen, stop trying to be somebody else
Don't try to be someone else
Be yourself and know that that's good enough
Don't try to be someone else
Don't try to be like someone else, don't try to act like someone else
Be yourself, be secure with yourself
Rely and trust upon your own decisions
On your own beliefs
You understand the things that I've taught you
Not to drink alcohol, not to use drugs
Don't use that cocaine or marijuana, because that stuff is highly addictive
When people become weed-heads
They become sluggish, lazy, stupid, and unconcerned
Sluggish, lazy, stupid, and unconcerned
That's all marijuana does to you, okay? This is mom
Unless you're taking it under doctor's, um, control
Then it's regulated
Do not smoke marijuana, do not consume alcohol
Do not get in the car with someone who is inebriated
This is mom, call me, bye
Blud thinks he's frank ocean's mom
blueberry [#59]sucralose and aspartame that are used in sugar free energy drinks cause cancer scientifically proven
Scientifically proven false. See: https://www.who.int/news/item/14-07-2023-aspartame-hazard-and-risk-assessment-results-released
an insane amount of b vitamins in energy drinks can cause nerve damage and liver damage
Only Niacin, and not in the dosages of common energy drinks. A monster has ~40mg, or 2.5x the RDA. It can cause damage from 1.5g, or 100 times the RDA. Not even close. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK548710/
too much taurine causes damage to not fully developed brains
Energy drinks have around 1000mg of taurine. Taurine is considered safe under 3000mg daily. Though I would like to see your source on its effects on developing brains. See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6536745/
fructose corn syrup that is used in energy drinks is the leading cause for obesity
That is simply not true. Obesity is caused when the delicate balance between calories in and calories out gets tipped off. If you eat or drink an overabundance of ANYTHING, cooked chicken breast, rice, vegetables, healthy and unhealthy foods included, you will become overweight.
Also, a majority of energy drinks these days are sugar free. You seem to recognize that as you mentioned artificial sweeteners, but you still brought up high fructose corn syrup?
"proven false"
“The findings of limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans and animals, and of limited mechanistic evidence on how carcinogenicity may occur, underscore the need for more research to refine our understanding on whether consumption of aspartame poses a carcinogenic hazard,”
were talking about frequent consumption if u wanna compare the health effects to daily use of nicotine,im sure its more than enough to be at a unhealthy level if u consume multiple a day or every day of the week
3.again same point,as 2.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0892036219301655
4.https://health.clevelandclinic.org/avoid-the-hidden-dangers-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-video/
also its pretty common sense that sugar free drinks are a total scam and even unhealthier
asdfgh [#63]
"proven false"
“The findings of limited evidence of carcinogenicity in humans and animals, and of limited mechanistic evidence on how carcinogenicity may occur, underscore the need for more research to refine our understanding on whether consumption of aspartame poses a carcinogenic hazard,”were talking about frequent consumption if u wanna compare the health effects to daily use of nicotine,im sure its more than enough to be at a unhealthy level if u consume multiple a day or every day of the week
3.again same point,as 2.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S08920362193016554.https://health.clevelandclinic.org/avoid-the-hidden-dangers-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup-video/
also its pretty common sense that sugar free drinks are a total scam and even unhealthier
I won't argue the first point because it's clear you didn't read the entire page. Here's a tiktok that dumbs down the findings for you: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr_idz/video/7255455536341159194?lang=en. I would like to see your research showing that it is harmful rather than mine that proves it isn't.
Points 2 and 3, The amounts of these ingredients in energy drinks fall under the allowable limits to be considered safe. That's why I added the numbers. Niacin can be harmful in amounts 100 times the RDA. A monster has 2.5 times the RDA. This means you would have to drink 38 cans of monster (in a single day) to reach an amount that could be considered harmful. You mention frequent use, as in daily. These numbers are based on daily amounts. RDA means Recommended Dietary Allowance, or how much you need daily.
Drinking one energy drink a day, as you mentioned, will not give you a high enough dosage of ANY of the potentially harmful ingredients to be considered unsafe.
Point 4, you're still relying on the idea that artificial sweeteners are less safe than hfcs. I agree, hfcs is incredibly bad for you. It is worse than artificial sweeteners. Conveniently, most energy drinks are moving away from sugar in general and are using safer alternatives
alecksdesk [#44]ange0 cheating and still losing kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Actually helps more the opposite team, you see why Ange1 is so bad
LyCan52 [#3]My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87104. This is my confession. If you're watching this tape, I'm probably dead, murdered by my brother-in-law Hank Schrader. Hank has been building a meth empire for over a year now and using me as his chemist. Shortly after my 50th birthday, Hank came to me with a rather, shocking proposition. He asked that I use my chemistry knowledge to cook methamphetamine, which he would then sell using his connections in the drug world. Connections that he made through his career with the DEA. I was... astounded, I... I always thought that Hank was a very moral man and I was... thrown, confused, but I was also particularly vulnerable at the time, something he knew and took advantage of. I was reeling from a cancer diagnosis that was poised to bankrupt my family. Hank took me on a ride along, and showed me just how much money even a small meth operation could make. And I was weak. I didn't want my family to go into financial ruin so I agreed. Every day, I think back at that moment with regret. I quickly realized that I was in way over my head, and Hank had a partner, a man named Gustavo Fring, a businessman. Hank essentially sold me into servitude to this man, and when I tried to quit, Fring threatened my family. I didn't know where to turn. Eventually, Hank and Fring had a falling out. From what I can gather, Hank was always pushing for a greater share of the business, to which Fring flatly refused to give him, and things escalated. Fring was able to arrange, uh I guess I guess you call it a "hit" on my brother-in-law, and failed, but Hank was seriously injured, and I wound up paying his medical bills which amounted to a little over $177,000. Upon recovery, Hank was bent on revenge, working with a man named Hector Salamanca, he plotted to kill Fring, and did so. In fact, the bomb that he used was built by me, and he gave me no option in it. I have often contemplated suicide, but I'm a coward. I wanted to go to the police, but I was frightened. Hank had risen in the ranks to become the head of the Albuquerque DEA, and about that time, to keep me in line, he took my children from me. For 3 months he kept them. My wife, who up until that point, had no idea of my criminal activities, was horrified to learn what I had done, why Hank had taken our children. We were scared. I was in Hell, I hated myself for what I had brought upon my family. Recently, I tried once again to quit, to end this nightmare, and in response, he gave me this. I can't take this anymore. I live in fear every day that Hank will kill me, or worse, hurt my family. I... All I could think to do was to make this video in hope that the world will finally see this man, for what he really is.
My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico, 87104. This is my confession. If you're watching this tape, I'm probably dead, murdered by my brother-in-law Hank Schrader. Hank has been building a meth empire for over a year now and using me as his chemist. Shortly after my 50th birthday, Hank came to me with a rather, shocking proposition. He asked that I use my chemistry knowledge to cook methamphetamine, which he would then sell using his connections in the drug world. Connections that he made through his career with the DEA. I was... astounded, I... I always thought that Hank was a very moral man and I was... thrown, confused, but I was also particularly vulnerable at the time, something he knew and took advantage of. I was reeling from a cancer diagnosis that was poised to bankrupt my family. Hank took me on a ride along, and showed me just how much money even a small meth operation could make. And I was weak. I didn't want my family to go into financial ruin so I agreed. Every day, I think back at that moment with regret. I quickly realized that I was in way over my head, and Hank had a partner, a man named Gustavo Fring, a businessman. Hank essentially sold me into servitude to this man, and when I tried to quit, Fring threatened my family. I didn't know where to turn. Eventually, Hank and Fring had a falling out. From what I can gather, Hank was always pushing for a greater share of the business, to which Fring flatly refused to give him, and things escalated. Fring was able to arrange, uh I guess I guess you call it a "hit" on my brother-in-law, and failed, but Hank was seriously injured, and I wound up paying his medical bills which amounted to a little over $177,000. Upon recovery, Hank was bent on revenge, working with a man named Hector Salamanca, he plotted to kill Fring, and did so. In fact, the bomb that he used was built by me, and he gave me no option in it. I have often contemplated suicide, but I'm a coward. I wanted to go to the police, but I was frightened. Hank had risen in the ranks to become the head of the Albuquerque DEA, and about that time, to keep me in line, he took my children from me. For 3 months he kept them. My wife, who up until that point, had no idea of my criminal activities, was horrified to learn what I had done, why Hank had taken our children. We were scared. I was in Hell, I hated myself for what I had brought upon my family. Recently, I tried once again to quit, to end this nightmare, and in response, he gave me this. I can't take this anymore. I live in fear every day that Hank will kill me, or worse, hurt my family. I... All I could think to do was to make this video in hope that the world will finally see this man, for what he really is
blueberry [#65]I won't argue the first point because it's clear you didn't read the entire page. Here's a tiktok that dumbs down the findings for you: https://www.tiktok.com/@dr_idz/video/7255455536341159194?lang=en. I would like to see your research showing that it is harmful rather than mine that proves it isn't.
Points 2 and 3, The amounts of these ingredients in energy drinks fall under the allowable limits to be considered safe. That's why I added the numbers. Niacin can be harmful in amounts 100 times the RDA. A monster has 2.5 times the RDA. This means you would have to drink 38 cans of monster (in a single day) to reach an amount that could be considered harmful. You mention frequent use, as in daily. These numbers are based on daily amounts. RDA means Recommended Dietary Allowance, or how much you need daily.
Drinking one energy drink a day, as you mentioned, will not give you a high enough dosage of ANY of the potentially harmful ingredients to be considered unsafe.
Point 4, you're still relying on the idea that artificial sweeteners are less safe than hfcs. I agree, hfcs is incredibly bad for you. It is worse than artificial sweeteners. Conveniently, most energy drinks are moving away from sugar in general and are using safer alternatives
artificial sweeteners are mostly less safe because as u see they are way less researched, I personally don't trust some random lab chemicals just because the researchers think they are safe,cigarettes were scientifically proven to be safe too, cant compare frequent nicotine use effects and only drinking a can a day for some time,theres no way u think frequently using energy drinks wont cause health problems or is safer,ur taking about instant harmful effects but not long term,u can smoke 2 cigarettes a day and most likely be completely healthy but when u smoke 2 cigarettes' a day for years it can start being unhealthy,energy drinks are already found to be very unhealthy and they have only been a big thing for the last a little over 10 years
RealDeal [#13]ill carry on smoking my cigarettes
Make sure to do good exercise as smoking can make you short of breath
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