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PawanSapkota [#2]more like 110k, cuz if shroud wasnt streaming it would be like 40k less
thats so dumb ppl were watchin valo shroud start streamin some ppl went there and not like shroud would have 55k views playin something else
PawanSapkota [#3]but yes 155k total, somepeople are gonnabe like its cuz shourd is watching
- -some people
PawanSapkota [#2]more like 110k, cuz if shroud wasnt streaming it would be like 40k less
And if other people weren't streaming ranked it would be +40K?
hekzy [#14]How much excluding the most popular streamers on the platform?
xqc/amongold/gaules not streaming it so i guess same :/
PawanSapkota [#2]more like 110k, cuz if shroud wasnt streaming it would be like 40k less
So we shouldn't count gaules numbers streaming CS tournaments?
hekzy [#14]How much excluding the most popular streamers on the platform?
Mad cuz CS is dead
Only alive in BR and Russia
supernova [#17]Mad cuz CS is dead
Only alive in BR and Russia
LOL fr valo needs to grow in RU and br still
ihitthat [#18]LOL fr valo needs to grow in RU and br still
china also. it is yet to release in china
ihitthat [#18]LOL fr valo needs to grow in RU and br still
Especially in Russia, in Brazil the scene is not that big but it's not small, it's bigger than the Korea and Japan scene.
supernova [#17]Mad cuz CS is dead
Only alive in BR and Russia
Still two times the player base so... Are you rarted?
k1ng1namo [#20]Why are these CSG OMEGALUL fans crying when shroud co streams valorant tourneys? Do you see valorant viewers cry when gaules is streaming your matches? 1head
I mean I'd just enjoy seeing valorant flourish without the artificial numbers put up by big streamers. It just loses integrity when pokimane is streaming masters...
hekzy [#23]I mean I'd just enjoy seeing valorant flourish without the artificial numbers put up by big streamers. It just loses integrity when pokimane is streaming masters...
even without shrouds numbers it still gets just as much as csgo for a regional tourny
supernova [#17]Mad cuz CS is dead
Only alive in BR and Russia
https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/02/valorant-reaches-14-million-active-players-and-500m-games-played/
https://steamcharts.com/app/730
Still double, huh? Does that mean valorant is double dead?
Just admit it, you don't care about the game flourishing, or making an impact or improving. All you care about is CSGO dying. You've actually never criticised riot and whenever I do so you call me a "csgo shill". This game needs improvements, a lot of them if it doesn't want to die. Yet, people like you act like everything is perfect even though the playerbased is constantly leaving and the only thing saving the game is the F2P aspect, which is not sustainable, because it means that people who play the game, stop playing it and never come back, and there are only so many people you can recycle.
Either stfu on what I have to say or fuck off and jerk off to some statistics like an idiot.
hekzy [#27]https://venturebeat.com/2021/06/02/valorant-reaches-14-million-active-players-and-500m-games-played/
https://steamcharts.com/app/730
Still double, huh? Does that mean valorant is double dead?
Just admit it, you don't care about the game flourishing, or making an impact or improving. All you care about is CSGO dying. You've actually never criticised riot and whenever I do so you call me a "csgo shill". This game needs improvements, a lot of them if it doesn't want to die. Yet, people like you act like everything is perfect even though the playerbased is constantly leaving and the only thing saving the game is the F2P aspect, which is not sustainable, because it means that people who play the game, stop playing it and never come back, and there are only so many people you can recycle.
Either stfu on what I have to say or fuck off and jerk off to some statistics like an idiot.
Peaks of 4 million per day ? wtf ... The numbers on Steam show fewer players every month, while that graph rises exponentially
AlekSeb [#28]Peaks of 4 million per day ? wtf ... The numbers on Steam show fewer players every month, while that graph rises exponentially
Wow that graph must be very wrong. I'll edit it.
supernova [#21]Especially in Russia, in Brazil the scene is not that big but it's not small, it's bigger than the Korea and Japan scene.
Russians just fit with Valve games idk why, Dota 2 is another example.
hekzy [#23]I mean I'd just enjoy seeing valorant flourish without the artificial numbers put up by big streamers. It just loses integrity when pokimane is streaming masters...
Just say you hate poki and go lmao no need to drag other streamers + it's also riots way to at least give back to their community
hiimnsk [#26]people are forgetting that csgo were dropping major event crate drops to viewers, which blew up the viewer count lol
does valorant not have loot drops?
supernova [#16]So we shouldn't count gaules numbers streaming CS tournaments?
good point. However, gaules has been streaming counter-strike since forever and making content as far as 1.6 and commentating older matches from that era such as mibr vs fnatic ESWC 2006. Shroud is more of a journeyman, stream to the highest bidder guy. Cannot compare someone who is the unofficial commentator for br scene to someone that jumps game to game.
k1ng1namo [#20]Why are these CSG OMEGALUL fans crying when shroud co streams valorant tourneys? Do you see valorant viewers cry when gaules is streaming your matches? 1head
good point. However, gaules has been streaming counter-strike since forever and making content as far as 1.6 and commentating older matches from that era such as mibr vs fnatic ESWC 2006. He is the de-facto counter-strike streamer. Shroud is more of a journeyman, stream to the highest bidder guy. He even bashes CSGO whenever he pleases.
hiimnsk [#33]no, only the prime gaming stuff through twitch
I think you have a point but doesn't necessary fluctuate the numbers as high as you think they might be. The majors has t o have the favorites in them if it's someone like gambit vs luminosity that one time the numbers were nowhere around faze vs c9 levels due to the hype around it.
Sunot [#35]good point. However, gaules has been streaming counter-strike since forever and making content as far as 1.6 and commentating older matches from that era such as mibr vs fnatic ESWC 2006. He is the de-facto counter-strike streamer. Shroud is more of a journeyman, stream to the highest bidder guy. He even bashes CSGO whenever he pleases.
Shroud has been playing since beta and streams Valorant probably more than any other game he is about as ingrained into valorant as you can get.
gweees [#37]Shroud has been playing since beta and streams Valorant probably more than any other game he is about as ingrained into valorant as you can get.
Good point, does Shroud have a contract to valorant for streaming? Because I don't think gaules even has for counter-strike as he was a former pro in cs1.6 playing for g3x and then eventually managing mibr. This amplifies my point that Shroud is a journeyman, someone that streams to the highest bidder in this case Riot is the highest bidder. Now it is Valorant, tomorrow he might be streaming battlefield 2042 more regularly. Throughout gaules career he has never streamed anything more than CS.
Sunot [#34]good point. However, gaules has been streaming counter-strike since forever and making content as far as 1.6 and commentating older matches from that era such as mibr vs fnatic ESWC 2006. Shroud is more of a journeyman, stream to the highest bidder guy. Cannot compare someone who is the unofficial commentator for br scene to someone that jumps game to game.
are you trying to imply that shroud is paid to stream the qualifiers?
Sunot [#36]I think you have a point but doesn't necessary fluctuate the numbers as high as you think they might be. The majors has t o have the favorites in them if it's someone like gambit vs luminosity that one time the numbers were nowhere around faze vs c9 levels due to the hype around it.
You're speculating just like he is regarding how much they fluctuate numbers. According to most analysts, pros, and journalists who have covered major esports tournaments, the common consensus is that those sorts of incentives absolutely DO boost numbers.
heavnsent [#41]You're speculating just like he is regarding how much they fluctuate numbers. According to most analysts, pros, and journalists who have covered major esports tournaments, the common consensus is that those sorts of incentives absolutely DO boost numbers.
Again they do but not the amount of numbers your implying. For the 2017 krakow major as can be seen here:
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/pgl-major-krakow-2017
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/eleague-major-2018
only 900k viewers but during major eleague C9 vs FaZE it was about one million. It depends who is playing the game, the hype, the storyline. At most maybe 50k boost is my speculation and it might be higher or lower but nowhere to the numbers you think they are. People want to watch their favorite teams play, if they aren't on people get put out.
Sunot [#38]Good point, does Shroud have a contract to valorant for streaming? Because I don't think gaules even has for counter-strike as he was a former pro in cs1.6 playing for g3x and then eventually managing mibr. This amplifies my point that Shroud is a journeyman, someone that streams to the highest bidder in this case Riot is the highest bidder. Now it is Valorant, tomorrow he might be streaming battlefield 2042 more regularly. Throughout gaules career he has never streamed anything more than CS.
No contract he streams the games cause he wants to and also shroud doesn’t get nearly the same views on his normal streams vs his co host streams
supernova [#44]What a clown
Bro CSG OMEGALUL fanboys are out of their minds
At least I am decent enough to admit valorant is an interesting prospect unlike valorant fans such as yourself who look down on us and mock us for enjoying a dead game despite me listening to counter-strike being dead ringtone since 2009 which I think highlights who is more rational without being condescending to one or the other.
cloud9bluefan [#43]No contract he streams the games cause he wants to and also shroud doesn’t get nearly the same views on his normal streams vs his co host streams
Just as pokimane stream the reyjovik masters as she wants to? I find that hardly believable
k1ng1namo [#31]Just say you hate poki and go lmao no need to drag other streamers + it's also riots way to at least give back to their community
Idgaf about pokimane. She's not a caster, nor a player, she's an e-girl, no place in esports.
cloud9bluefan [#43]No contract he streams the games cause he wants to and also shroud doesn’t get nearly the same views on his normal streams vs his co host streams
They are paid co-streamers.
hekzy [#50]They are paid co-streamers.
They aren't paid shroud and others have said this multiple times. Besides if he was he wouldn't have woken up late and almost missed one of the games yesterday.
Sunot [#40]100 percent
He is not!! Gaules actually has to pay to stream, it's the opposite way! You are insane.
Sunot [#46]At least I am decent enough to admit valorant is an interesting prospect unlike valorant fans such as yourself who look down on us and mock us for enjoying a dead game despite me listening to counter-strike being dead ringtone since 2009 which I think highlights who is more rational without being condescending to one or the other.
What do you expect? He is another delusional Brazilian who just wants cs to die, so he can watch his favorite cs players play Valorant.
hekzy [#23]I mean I'd just enjoy seeing valorant flourish without the artificial numbers put up by big streamers. It just loses integrity when pokimane is streaming masters...
This hekzy guy always trying to downgrade valorant while overestimating CS. Why? Idk. His points almost always makes 0 sense, he knows that streamers end up casting games they like to play or are good at it. Complains about shround in Valorant, but doesn't complain about gaules in CS, 100% biased. And Gaules is even more important to CS, he streams everygame, and he has more viewers than shroud in a normal basis. Gaules is more important to CS than Shroud is for valorant, he is actually bigger than CS itself here in brazil. If you come up with this shroud excuse for Valorant being more popular one more time, at least be honest and point that CS has the same thing, even worse.
Sunot [#47]Just as pokimane stream the reyjovik masters as she wants to? I find that hardly believable
Why is it hard to Believe? If your viewerbase is around 20~30k and when your stream valorant you get 60~100k why the fuck wouldn't your stream? Are you retarded? Never open a business in your life for your own good.
gweees [#51]They aren't paid shroud and others have said this multiple times. Besides if he was he wouldn't have woken up late and almost missed one of the games yesterday.
Don't give this hekzy guy attention, he is here on this forum just to try and get some people back to CSGO, he lives by criticizing valorant while overestimating CS, the most biased guy here.
NEYMAR [#52]He is not!! Gaules actually has to pay to stream, it's the opposite way! You are insane.
Before he started paying for streaming the higher tier events he streamed for free in particular his former experiences(coach in mibr, g3x as player) in the game and subsequently moving on to streaming local br matches. Shroud is partnered with Riot and therefore being paid by them why is it so difficult to understand this? I am not saying he is wrong I am just stating the facts
ntnoob [#53]What do you expect? He is another delusional Brazilian who just wants cs to die, so he can watch his favorite cs players play Valorant.
That's pretty sad tbh, I think br can make their own valorant scene no need for cs players. It would be interesting to see how coldzera would fare in the game though.
I think both communities are pretty toxic to each other I guess it is the norm of competition.
NEYMAR [#55]Why is it hard to Believe? If your viewerbase is around 20~30k and when your stream valorant you get 60~100k why the fuck wouldn't your stream? Are you retarded? Never open a business in your life for your own good.
Dude pokimane is a casual gamer, there is no way she is keeping up with the esports scene even if it boosts her stream. The only way i see it is she gets paid to stream it. If someone like potter or former female pros streaming, 100% believable.
hekzy [#50]They are paid co-streamers.
Source: Trust me bro hahahaha
Gaules begged to be able to stream Iceland Masters and only after a few days of the championship and with a lot of pressure from the community he got the right to stream
CSG OMEGALUL clowns so mad lmao
PrTsty2 [#59]its not a final tho, its semis right?
yea I may have been mistaken (IDK what happened, I could have sworn I saw Gambit vs Navi playing yesterday for the finals but also saw it on today on Twitch) either way my point stands, open quals is way less important than semi finals
Sunot [#57]Before he started paying for streaming the higher tier events he streamed for free in particular his former experiences(coach in mibr, g3x as player) in the game and subsequently moving on to streaming local br matches. Shroud is partnered with Riot and therefore being paid by them why is it so difficult to understand this? I am not saying he is wrong I am just stating the facts
Shroud had 350k views streaming masters. he doesn't even ag 30k views playing a game so if riot didn't allow him to watch party he would be playing a game with 30k views and shroud skipped 5 important games for sponsors streams if u think he was getting pay he would never skip those games
Sunot [#60]Dude pokimane is a casual gamer, there is no way she is keeping up with the esports scene even if it boosts her stream. The only way i see it is she gets paid to stream it. If someone like potter or former female pros streaming, 100% believable.
No, she gets more viewers streaming masters, it was the most hyped event on the internet, she would be losing if she didn't stream, not the other way around, Val Masters gave her viewers, not the opposite. You think pokimane is getting viewers to valorant? NO. Valorant biggest events are giving viewers and Subs to poki, if she is just a little bit smart, wich I think she is, she of course would stream the biggest internet event of the month, otherwise she would be very stupid and not concerned for his carrer, it's a game she plays constantly and an event that would give her subs, she should be paying Riot to stream valorant, why do you think the oposite is true? Did u know that Gaules pays for transmission rights to most of the CSGO tournaments he watches?
Sunot [#57]Before he started paying for streaming the higher tier events he streamed for free in particular his former experiences(coach in mibr, g3x as player) in the game and subsequently moving on to streaming local br matches. Shroud is partnered with Riot and therefore being paid by them why is it so difficult to understand this? I am not saying he is wrong I am just stating the facts
Ok, now please, prove what you are saying. It is difficult, because makes no sense the guy with the bigger fanbase paying to stream and the guy with the smaller one getting paid to do the same thing, makes no sense at all. Everybody just wants to have the chance to jump on hype train of valorant masters, there are multiple clips of shroud talking to seangares and other people if he would be able to get riots permission to stream, a few number os streamers were given permission, how the hell are they getting paid if they have to ask for permission to stream? Gaules only got his permission on saturday, with 1 week of masters behind. You are delusional, give me some proof that he is being paid, because in the logical sense, everything points to him being not.
supernova [#61]Source: Trust me bro hahahaha
Gaules begged to be able to stream Iceland Masters and only after a few days of the championship and with a lot of pressure from the community he got the right to stream
CSG OMEGALUL clowns so mad lmao
But he didn't stream? Lulw? Or nobody bothered watching him?
NEYMAR [#64]No, she gets more viewers streaming masters, it was the most hyped event on the internet, she would be losing if she didn't stream, not the other way around, Val Masters gave her viewers, not the opposite. You think pokimane is getting viewers to valorant? NO. Valorant biggest events are giving viewers and Subs to poki, if she is just a little bit smart, wich I think she is, she of course would stream the biggest internet event of the month, otherwise she would be very stupid and not concerned for his carrer, it's a game she plays constantly and an event that would give her subs, she should be paying Riot to stream valorant, why do you think the oposite is true? Did u know that Gaules pays for transmission rights to most of the CSGO tournaments he watches?
Nice. Nobody is co-streaming Version1 or Andbox. 24k viewers and 3k viewers. You guys are literally clowns. Where are those 50k people that watch from shroud? That's right, they don't care about the game.
Wake the fuck up man. This esport is losing all integrity, it's become jake paul boxing fights of esports.
supernova [#61]Source: Trust me bro hahahaha
Gaules begged to be able to stream Iceland Masters and only after a few days of the championship and with a lot of pressure from the community he got the right to stream
CSG OMEGALUL clowns so mad lmao
Hey look at this Version1 vs lg and andbox vs have 24k and 3k viewers without costreamers.
Meanwhile starladder has 250k without costreams.
Once again you're a clown.
Sunot [#58]That's pretty sad tbh, I think br can make their own valorant scene no need for cs players. It would be interesting to see how coldzera would fare in the game though.
I think both communities are pretty toxic to each other I guess it is the norm of competition.
They are clowns. They don't care about the game prospering. Cheating scandal? B-b-but csgo!!! Matchfixers, ex cheaters, rapists running the scene? B-b-but csgo!!!! Garbage gun mechanics? What do you want? Good mechanics like dead game!!!!!! Shit matchmaking? B-b-but csgo cheaters wahhhhh!!!! Garbage community? Bbbbbut somebody on hltv called me monke!!!!!!
They don't care about Valorant, all they want js CSGO to die, the place where their scene got humiliated, because they always acted like monkeys, all the br fans, and then the got to stfu, now they are seething at csgo.
NEYMAR [#54]This hekzy guy always trying to downgrade valorant while overestimating CS. Why? Idk. His points almost always makes 0 sense, he knows that streamers end up casting games they like to play or are good at it. Complains about shround in Valorant, but doesn't complain about gaules in CS, 100% biased. And Gaules is even more important to CS, he streams everygame, and he has more viewers than shroud in a normal basis. Gaules is more important to CS than Shroud is for valorant, he is actually bigger than CS itself here in brazil. If you come up with this shroud excuse for Valorant being more popular one more time, at least be honest and point that CS has the same thing, even worse.
Your account was made 2 weeks ago and yet you seem to know everything about me... Like you've followed me for ages. Hello, heisback/supernova. No life clown.
You're always underestimating valorant's problems and think it's the perfect game. That mentality is going to kill valorant, know that clown.
hekzy [#70]Your account was made 2 weeks ago and yet you seem to know everything about me... Like you've followed me for ages. Hello, heisback/supernova. No life clown.
You're always underestimating valorant's problems and think it's the perfect game. That mentality is going to kill valorant, know that clown.
LMAO
hekzy [#67]Nice. Nobody is co-streaming Version1 or Andbox. 24k viewers and 3k viewers. You guys are literally clowns. Where are those 50k people that watch from shroud? That's right, they don't care about the game.
Wake the fuck up man. This esport is losing all integrity, it's become jake paul boxing fights of esports.
That was an OPENING QUALIFIER match with multiple other matches happening at the same time!! What's the actual importance of that match? Almost none, it's just a fucking qualifier and if any of them lose, they can still try two more times, there's nothing on the stake here. C'mon.
supernova [#61]Source: Trust me bro hahahaha
Gaules begged to be able to stream Iceland Masters and only after a few days of the championship and with a lot of pressure from the community he got the right to stream
CSG OMEGALUL clowns so mad lmao
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