I'd say jawgemo or maybe zekken? Derke, and aspas raze not really as good.
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alecksdesk [#2]jinggg??????????????????????????
edit: i have calmed down, its jinggg, big gap, zach keen, keznit, the rest.
Oh true yeah forgot jingg
bonkashi [#15]"derke jinggg not that good" i want that good stuff ur smokin man bc these takes are something else
never said jingg was bad sir, probably best in the world. Derkes raze is alright but not the best
JJfriends [#18]never said jingg was bad sir, probably best in the world. Derkes raze is alright but not the best
Literally top 5 at Masters Tokyo by just playing raze lmao
GreyDaze [#21]Literally top 5 at Masters Tokyo by just playing raze lmao
his raze isnt exactly top 5 itw tho just watching him play you can tell lol
cboomer [#22]his raze isnt exactly top 5 itw tho just watching him play you can tell lol
Yet he reached top 5 in acs and rating by his raze being "not exactly top 5 itw". He is the 2nd best raze itw and it's fact based on stats lol. U can try to deny it as much as u want
JJfriends [#18]never said jingg was bad sir, probably best in the world. Derkes raze is alright but not the best
sorry misread. ill agree with the aspas stuff they put saadhak on raze for a reason, but derke raze is definitely top 3 itw
JJfriends [#4]Oh true yeah forgot jingg
Zyppan >>>>>>>>>> (jingg just has better aim, not better raze skills)
GreyDaze [#25]Yet he reached top 5 in acs and rating by his raze being "not exactly top 5 itw". He is the 2nd best raze itw and it's fact based on stats lol. U can try to deny it as much as u want
tenz has good stats on raze too doesnt really mean much, just from an entry and utility perspective derke isnt top 5
not saying he cant frag but thats not the point of raze bro, stats dont exactly MATTER in this discussion
GreyDaze [#25]Yet he reached top 5 in acs and rating by his raze being "not exactly top 5 itw". He is the 2nd best raze itw and it's fact based on stats lol. U can try to deny it as much as u want
Did you know that it takes the whole team to set up a duelist? And when you have a strategist like boaster and a player who is amazing at setting players up like leo, it's not hard to frag out big without using abilities. That's all I will say.
NA_BEST_COUNTRY [#20]Jinggg > keznit > jawgemo > zekken > victor > tenz > subroza > flights >>>>>>>>>>>>>> derke
Bro put tenz for raze ,like for jett I would agree
I'm a Sen fan and am supporting Navi cause Sen didn't make champs
cboomer [#28]tenz has good stats on raze too doesnt really mean much, just from an entry and utility perspective derke isnt top 5
not saying he cant frag but thats not the point of raze bro, stats dont exactly MATTER in this discussion
How so? Even from an eye test, derke is really good. He has great entry. He has great nades. He is probably the most mechanically skilled duelist itw currently. Also there is a reason someone like tenz isn't playing raze anymore and derke is. It's undeniable that he is the best raze itw after jiing. Being a good raze doesn't mean u have to make flashy plays like jiing. Derke is a proper entry raze who literally also diffed jiing on raze when they played against each other recently.
GreyDaze [#32]How so? Even from an eye test, derke is really good. He has great entry. He has great nades. He is probably the most mechanically skilled duelist itw currently. Also there is a reason someone like tenz isn't playing raze anymore and derke is. It's undeniable that he is the best raze itw after jiing. Being a good raze doesn't mean u have to make flashy plays like jiing. Derke is a proper entry raze who literally also diffed jiing on raze when they played against each other recently.
hes not I like hate to break it to you but every other raze listed has way more fluidity and uses their utility a lot better
derke could very well be a better player, hes not a better raze because I dont look at rifiling skills when talking about who plays the agent the best
so yes derke may be one of the best players that PLAY raze but he is not one of the best RAZE players
unknown_trash [#30]Did you know that it takes the whole team to set up a duelist? And when you have a strategist like boaster and a player who is amazing at setting players up like leo, it's not hard to frag out big without using abilities. That's all I will say.
Just coz u are set up well doesn't mean u will frag out. Why didn't aspas,ardiis etc fare well on raze then? They had world class support in their team. Why didn't drx never have a proper raze who could carry them over the line? Why is it only derke who is doing this? Also derke's utility is world class as well. He entries well,he uses his nades effectively. He creates a lot of space for the team. What more does he gotta do?
Derke is the best duelist itw and the 2nd best raze and it's facts.
tomato211222 [#31]Bro put tenz for raze ,like for jett I would agree
I'm a Sen fan and am supporting Navi cause Sen didn't make champs
you just want to lose dont you
cboomer [#33]hes not I like hate to break it to you but every other raze listed has way more fluidity and uses their utility a lot better
derke could very well be a better player, hes not a better raze because I dont look at rifiling skills when talking about who plays the agent the best
so yes derke may be one of the best players that PLAY raze but he is not one of the best RAZE players
It looks like u are in denial mate idk what to tell u. This is valorant. No one can be putting up that good numbers on an agent while not being really good at it. Derke is not flashy others are. That's why ppl are underrating him.
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