sacy & pancada

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michaelisupset

why is everybody thinking that they are going back to brazil?

they still have contracts with sentinels for over a year
they are making the bag with sentinels.

plus, im sure they will be involved with roster changes with sen if they decide to make any. unless mibr or furia puts up big big numbers to buy them out i do not see them leaving.

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because it didn't work for sen, and when multilingual language teams usually don't work they usually break up

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cboomer

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omg team didnt work after 7 months they gotta disband 😑

#4

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Yeah this is Valorant, not CS

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alecksdesk

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well yeah, no igl, 2x smoke players, overlap on duelist role, overlap on initiator role

sen would be making a move, and it could be the brazilians

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cboomer

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roles look fine atm dk where ts came from lol

double duelist is very much viable atm and so is double controller this roster role wise is perfect on most maps

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michaelisupset

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the roles are not great rn. pancada isn’t great on sentinel. best option would be to get rid of marved since his contract ends this year, pick up johnqt since he fills the sentinel/igl role.

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cboomer

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no reason to change this iteration of the roster lmfao just wait for the Brazilians contract to end that way theres some continuity

they can rebuild the NA roster when theres more than just t2 players available

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michaelisupset

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dude, marved cannot call. that is obvious from lcq. pancada looked meh every time he played kj. at least 1 change needs to happen

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michaelisupset

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the move would be to get rid of marved, get johnqt, and put pancada on smokes.

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michaelisupset

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it didn’t work because they had 50 thousand different issues throughout the season. the language barrier, which is barely a thing now, was not an issue. sacy is fluent and pancada is getting there from what we have seen from sen videos with him

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alecksdesk

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it's less about the actual language barrier and more culture barrier + sacy talked publicly about missing his home, maybe going to a full brazilian roster can bittersweat that

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that's not the problem, they know how to speak good english and skill is not the problem, all of them are good individually. Some people would say its because of a curse, but I dont believe in curses so I say the problem is the staff, like coach and analysts.

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That being said, welcome to Furia Sacy/Pancada!!!

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michaelisupset

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welcome to sentinels, aspas, less, and sadhaak!!

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lmao what would be the reaction from all the brazilian fans who still don't like Sentinels because of zombs incident

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Mortadelo

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Contracts don't mean shit, you get benched whenever, contract does not matter

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cboomer

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well contracts kinda mean everything lol if they were to leave sen have all the leverage

average 0 iq take from you

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Mortadelo

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They can force them to stay, but not force them to play. If they say I wanna leave, they leave

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do you think is possible that Sentinels bench them and keep them in contract jail?

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michaelisupset

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why would they bench world champs?

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to avoid to sell them to other Americas teams

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michaelisupset

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if they don’t want to let them go, they will put them in. there is nobody to pick up that is better than sacy in his role. same with pancada on smokes.

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alecksdesk

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bro rob aint gonna pay them 40k a month each just to sit on the bench what are u on about

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Iper

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all I want is to avoid a scenario where they want to leave but they can't, that's why I asking

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alecksdesk

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than nope, their salary is way too high for that

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cboomer

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feel like sacy would retire before leaving sen lol why would he renegotiate a lower contract for another un guaranteed team that likely will have a new igl

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All things considered, the multilingual experiment on SEN has albeit failed with every updated iteration of the roster. Despite the fact both of the Brazilians are under contract for the next year or so, I wouldn't be surprised if teams like Loud or Mibr try to go for the Brazilian duo. Here, we are presented with two likely outcomes:

1.) Pancada goes to Loud to replace Tuyz and Sacy goes to either Furia or MIBR
2.) The two choose to market themselves as a package and go to one of the aforementioned teams above

Though it might be considered wise by some to give the team more time to prac and build more team chemistry for the next year, Rob Moore, being on the over-reactionary side, might just choose to let them loose of their contracts to eye new NA talents (m80 core specifically) or the players themselves might deem staying on the team relatively pointless.

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michaelisupset

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changes need to happen, but not getting rid of sacy and pancada. they were not the reason why the team failed. it failed because of no igl, plus role issues. pancada looked meh all season because he wasn’t on his right role. they need to drop marved, put pancada on smokes, and get a real igl and senti player.

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If sen were to go with your idea, johnqt from m80 would legit be an amazing pickup. However, I don't know if I would rate pancada above my cold boy. Honestly, given recent talks about Loud and the regular season being nearly over, I think this year's roster mania, though not as hype as last year's, will have some pretty stunning moves.

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I think pancada and marved are similar skill wise, marved would overall be better due to his fluency in english. but if sacy and pancada are a package deal then i would rather pancada. also mavreds contract ends this year while pancada has like another year

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Come back to Brazil :D

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michaelisupset

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no