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sentinelmain377

LOOKING FOR GOOD CHANGES TO POINT SYSTEM!!!

Does not include Champs 2023 or the 2nd/3rd best teams of 2023 but FNC (1st best of the year) got the points for this year (aint no way they doing bad at champs 2023)
visaissues/subs/other similar issue: +2 points
best team of the year for sure: +45 points (GAMBIT, OPTIC, FNATIC)
2nd best team of the year for sure: +30 points (ACEND, LOUD, ???)
3rd best team of the year for sure: +15 points (SEN, FPX/NAVI, ???)
event attended = 1 point
winner of masters/lockin = 15 points
winner of champions = 20 points
2nd of masters/lockin = 10 points
2nd of champions = 12.5 points
top 3 = 6 points (champs +2 points)
top 4 = 5 points (champs +2 points)
top 6 = 4 points (champs +2 points)
top 8 = 3 points (champs +2 points)
12 team event: top 10 = 2 points
16 team event: top 12 = 2 points (champs +1 points)
lockin event: top 16 = 1 point

FNATIC 110
NV/OPTC/NRG 106.5
LOUD 75
GAMBIT 74.5 (super good for only 2 lans and disband cuz of war. would be #1 if still here but unlucky ig)
ACEND 55 (2021 carrying since (2nd best team of the year points) and champs points)
FPX/NAVI 52
SENTINELS 40
VS/DRX 37
PRX 32
TEAM LIQUID 30
KRU 26
X10/XIA/TLN 19
LEVIATAN 15
100T 14
EG & ZETA 13
EG & ZETA 13
G2 EU & XSET 11 (only 2 lans. disbanded)
G2 EU & XSET 11 (only 2 lans. disbanded)

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dogze #1

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sentinelmain377

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FORZE omggg

suygetsu origins

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Art1st

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yeah i made that guy

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emirerays

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aint no way you put sen above acend 💀

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read his name

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brobeans

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could honestly put Sen at first since they won without dropping a map

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emirerays

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He is saying all time not 1 tournament performance

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brobeans

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that is all time. Sen was the most dominant team of early Val. no one has beat their record

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emirerays

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they just won 1 tournament, gambit, fnatic, optic/nrg/envy, loud played more finals and they were more consistent so stop being a fanboy

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brobeans

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this is objective. Sen had the highest peak so therefore, they're ranked #1

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emirerays

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highest peak ? just because they won 1 event ? im not gonna take you seriously, obviously you are baiting

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brobeans

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not bait but whatever. history speaks for itself

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The_Cleg

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He's a professional NA baiter, or just a delusional dumbfk. The difference is often very thin anyway

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chauste

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bruh that acend champs run was the biggest fluke ive seen.

look at all 5 of their players now

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emirerays

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What ? cNed plays for NaVi, starxo plays for koi, bonecold was playing for vit for a long time and the others fell off. What is sentinels 5 doing other from tenz ?

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All their top players are trash now, with the exception of bonecold, he's as good as he's always been which is just aight.
They were genuinely the most fluke team. Gambit were clearly hella exhausted from their Kru match

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think FNC gotta win 2 majors then will be #1

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brobeans

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1) Sen (dominated early val and didn't drop a map; biggest clout by far)
2) & 3) NV/Optic/NRG and LOUD (most consistent squads)
4) FNC (upcoming top team; could move to 2nd or 1st depending on next major)
5) Gambit (decently consistent but doesn't exist unfortunately)
6) FPX/NAVI
7) Acend

8+) (DRX, PRX, etc)

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Kasumi12

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You living in the past or something? They didnwin 2 majors back to back tho

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brobeans

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? these are the best teams of all time

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gambit

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Gutssz

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Gambit clears

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Steelz

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acend > sentinels cause champs > masters

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I still don't agree, sentinels actually deserved masters unlike acend and another thing is that Sen were in a group with tl who were favourites at the time and kru who almost beat gambit. Acend on the other hand should've lost to Vivo keyd and even with a free 7 round lead they almost lost.
They went on a run because every team they faced after that was trash, secret has such a terrible off game, liquid look like they were playing with their monitors off, and gambit NEVER CHECKED ANY FUCKING CORNERS

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Staticle

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acend won champions not masters

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emirerays

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they won regional masters and the guy is saying that

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Yistyy

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Actually a good list

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lwrrzzs

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fnatic won only 1 real international event who even count mickey mouse lock in as decent event? single elim for 32 teams

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lwrrzzs

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but it is the best team in valorant history At least in firepower aspect

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mrGoudas

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So what is the point you're tryna make

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lwrrzzs

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do not put lock in one list with masters and champs

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The_Cleg

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Stop it, it is barely less important than a normal masters

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ItsHunter

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Honestly harder than a normal masters and the fact they didn't drop a map till finals says how dominant they were

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sentinelmain377

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2nd in reykjavik 2021
5th-8th in champs 2021
11th-12th in reykjavik 2022 (sub)
4th in copenhagen 2022
5th-6th in champs 2022
1st in lock//in
1st in tokyo

also are one of the 4 teams to make 7/8 international events (alongside Envy/optc/nrg, KRU, and VS/DRX)

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lwrrzzs

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why u compare orgs not players or core
cause half of this achievements was in literally another core and i agree current core it is the best team itw

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sentinelmain377

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mini boaster derke (all 7 events)

sentinel:
magnum (3 events)
alfajer (4 events)

iniator:
doma (2 events)
enzo (3 events)
leo (2 events)

flex:
mistic (5 events)
chronicle (2 events)

it doesnt matter
core is 50% there still

all that has changed is upgrades in firepower (not how the team runs (cuz the coach and igl are the same))

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ItsHunter

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Tbf the changes were pretty far apart and quite minimal so the core was constantly changing and also half of it was done with mistic who was og

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EU 1

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KanyeAsada

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bro said liquid, never made a deep run in a single tournament

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4rrowlol

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champs 2021 didnt exist ig

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sentinelmain377

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tell me a team that has consistently done better

this is an all time team ranking
not a one and done

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100t>tl easily

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sentinelmain377

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TL international events attended: 6 (4th, 4th, 7th-8th, 7th-8th, 17th-32nd, 5th-6th)
100T international events attended: 3 (3rd-4th, 9th-12th, 5th-8th)

delusionalll 0/8

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Simp4S0m

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If NRG wins champs (which they will) I assume they will be above FNC right?

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ItsHunter

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Hard cope

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Sk00d

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Loud too high, they are actually very inconsistent if you look at them
they went M1 Finals to M2 getting grouped to Champs win, lock//in final to winning 0 maps at Tokyo
3 very good tourneys but also 2 horrendous ones

winning americas league is a bit of a buffer but not enough imo should be at least below gambit and maybe even FPX/Na'Vi

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FNC
Gambit
Optic
Loud
FPX/Navi
DRX/VS
Acend/Sen

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JustHunter

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SEN were leagues more impressive than Acend.
Acend literally shouldve been eliminated in 2 games and then proceeded to have quite literally the luckiest run in any esports ive ever watched in my entire life

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Congo1

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i dont like it = lucky

"waaaaaahhhhh wahhh waaaaaaaah change my diapers!"

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ItsHunter

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Here knock yourself out
sentinels actually deserved masters unlike acend and another thing is that Sen were in a group with tl who were favourites at the time and kru who almost beat gambit. Acend on the other hand should've lost to Vivo keyd and even with a free 7 round lead they almost lost.
They went on a run because every team they faced after that was trash, secret has such a terrible off game, liquid look like they were playing with their monitors off, and gambit NEVER CHECKED ANY FUCKING CORNERS

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2-0 everyone and you are lucky

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PINTO0

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KRU

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south_america_best_region

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fuck haters, good list ma friend :D

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sentinelmain377

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GIGA BUMP

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Lol acend had 1 good tourney

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Zhongguo

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GAMBIT OMEGALUL, SENTINEL ON LIST IS FRAUD

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least biased fnatic fan

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ItsHunter

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As much as I want to cope Sen being higher, in terms of objective metrics there's no way to say they were any higher than 7th

TOP TEAMS of all time

LOOKING FOR GOOD CHANGES TO POINT SYSTEM!!!