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The team that would destroy fnatic
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terribletyranny [#3]the team that would destroy fnatic
nAts
chronicle
Redgar
d3ffo
Sheydosdont forget fnatic and liquid owe their playstyles to prime gambit.
Something instead of deffo
frostyy [#2]The team that would destroy fnatic
Aspas
Less
Saadhak
Pancada
Sacy
they didnt win a map in masters no?
aTastyCook1e [#10]Bro snuck in Kingg 🤣🤣🤣
He is the top 3 of players with best rating in americas even with his bad team, he carried so hard his team, wtf are you saying
terribletyranny [#3]the team that would destroy fnatic
nAts
chronicle
Redgar
d3ffo
Sheydosdont forget fnatic and liquid owe their playstyles to prime gambit.
i guess teams were not really making strats and did anti stratting before gambit did
MourninggStarr [#4]Jinggg
f0rsakeN
d4v41
Mako
something
Prx with something is already insane but my man mako in there as well would wipe vct
terribletyranny [#3]the team that would destroy fnatic
nAts
chronicle
Redgar
d3ffo
Sheydosdont forget fnatic and liquid owe their playstyles to prime gambit.
How do FNC and TL own their playstyles to GMB?
Also, they had terrible results in 2022 so it is safe to say that they are overrated and weren’t that good
terribletyranny [#7]your recency bias is insane
Your d3ffo bias is even more insane. Game has evolved, players have also gotten better, strats have also developed. The scene was inchoate back then, it's infinitely more competitive now.
Chronicle = Chronicle
Leo >> Sheydos
Alfajer >=< nAts
Boaster > Redgar
Derke > d3ffo
sliceddice [#18]Your d3ffo bias is even more insane. Game has evolved, players have also gotten better, strats have also developed. The scene was inchoate back then, it's infinitely more competitive now.
Chronicle = Chronicle
Leo >> Sheydos
Alfajer >=< nAts
Boaster > Redgar
Derke > d3ffo
Leo is not better than prime Sheydos
Leo = prime Sheydos
Gutssz [#19]Leo is not better than prime Sheydos
Leo = prime Sheydos
No, that's just completely false. Leo is doing at the very least as good as Sheydos but in an infinitely more competitive stage of the game. Can you show me Sheydos regional stats and also stats on LAN if they even match up to Leo's even relatively? https://www.reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/14f1gnx/leo_is_the_only_player_that_has_been_rated_on_vlr/
Leo MVP of LOCK/IN and easily top 2 in Tokyo.
Asuna_Yuuki [#17]How do FNC and TL own their playstyles to GMB?
Also, they had terrible results in 2022 so it is safe to say that they are overrated and weren’t that good
liquid and fnatic only play the way they do since redgar+nAts and kronikel joined those teams respectively (nAts defines the sentinel role and teams play around his lurks rather than the other way around and redgar is the igl anyway so he brought a lot of gambit with him, as for kronikel, he was always the second caller in gambit, and does a lot of macro for fnatic)
they had bad results in 2022 because they didnt have these players and had a different playstyle
sliceddice [#18]Your d3ffo bias is even more insane. Game has evolved, players have also gotten better, strats have also developed. The scene was inchoate back then, it's infinitely more competitive now.
Chronicle = Chronicle
Leo >> Sheydos
Alfajer >=< nAts
Boaster > Redgar
Derke > d3ffo
i just said d3ffo was (not is) better for gambit than something
something denied to join gambit
no where did I say deffo is better than derke
as for why prime gambit beats fnatic ---> comms are much clearer (watch the vods), players have more time with each other leading to better synergy and tactical macro as well as nAts being in his prime.
Theres a lot of reasons why fnatic could also beat gambit but theres also as many to suggest otherwise, it'd be a good and close game.
aside from that your comment is really a nothing burger and an assorted word salad
terribletyranny [#26]i just said d3ffo was (not is) better for gambit than something
something denied to join gambit
no where did I say deffo is better than derke
as for why prime gambit beats fnatic ---> comms are much clearer (watch the vods), players have more time with each other leading to better synergy and tactical macro as well as nAts being in his prime.
Theres a lot of reasons why fnatic could also beat gambit but theres also as many to suggest otherwise, it'd be a good and close game.aside from that your comment is really a nothing burger and an assorted word salad
Your assumptions are also nothing burger, what do you mean nAts being in his prime? Can you prove that his skills deteriorated? Meta evolved and teams adapted to his lurking to some extent, it's crazy to divorce his performance from non-individualistic context.
Game has evolved, they do naturally in any competitive game, and FNC have better firepower.
FNATIC vs GMB also depends on the meta they clash in.
Forget FNC, if GMB were materialized into existence, even LOUD, NRG, EG would defeat if not demolish them. You are neglecting the improvement in the overall scenes in so many fronts.
sliceddice [#27]Your assumptions are also nothing burger, what do you mean nAts being in his prime? Can you prove that his skills deteriorated? Meta evolved and teams adapted to his lurking to some extent, it's crazy to divorce his performance from non-individualistic context.
Game has evolved, they do naturally in any competitive game, and FNC have better firepower.
FNATIC vs GMB also depends on the meta they clash in.
Forget FNC, if GMB were materialized into existence, even LOUD, NRG, EG would defeat if not demolish them. You are neglecting the improvement in the overall scenes in so many fronts.
you clearly did not watch gambit play
hard to argue to a wall
prolly a yessirski alt
/closed
frostyy [#2]The team that would destroy fnatic
Aspas
Less
Saadhak
Pancada
Sacy
current fnatic would 3-0 those flukers
terribletyranny [#28]you clearly did not watch gambit play
hard to argue to a wall
prolly a yessirski alt
/closed
Now say that without crying.
From what I can gather from this brief exchange (with a wall known as terribletyranny), I watched and understood more than you. But I understand your emotional response, being confronted with reality about your favorite team can be painful. It's OK.
Thanks for conceding anyway. /closed
sliceddice [#30]Now say that without crying.
From what I can gather from this brief exchange (with a wall known as terribletyranny), I watched and understood more than you. But I understand your emotional response, being confronted with reality about your favorite team can be painful. It's OK.
Thanks for conceding anyway. /closed
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starxito_sike [#15]i guess teams were not really making strats and did anti stratting before gambit did
delusional if you think so.
Many of these teams had people coming from CS. If you think they had no maturity in their strats whatsoever you're sorely mistaken.
The strats have evolved, but anti-stratting and making strats was still very much a thing.
Eltioconcho [#11]He is the top 3 of players with best rating in americas even with his bad team, he carried so hard his team, wtf are you saying
calm down, afartiecock is a Lev hater, don't fall in his bait!!
kapteN [#33]delusional if you think so.
Many of these teams had people coming from CS. If you think they had no maturity in their strats whatsoever you're sorely mistaken.
The strats have evolved, but anti-stratting and making strats was still very much a thing.
exactly my point, i was being sarcastic to that guy who said fnc and tl owe their playstyles to gmb
starxito_sike [#36]exactly my point, i was being sarcastic to that guy who said fnc and tl owe their playstyles to gmb
Whoops sorry dude didn’t read that
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