realistically how long can this prx team last?
like them being a consistent top 8 team itw with no igl, and this playstyle
liquid managed to be a pretty good for ages team without an IGL, so theres some precedent that it can work, and their playstyle also fits the team structure
so... probably forever? we'll have to see if they're able to adapt after a loss/hard antistrat, but realistically they should be able to
obviously they'll still be super dependent on individual skill, but that hasn't stopped them so far
the main worry imo is that they themselves will struggle to antistrat, which is a huge damper on actually winning an international event
Targu1n [#6]liquid managed to be a pretty good for ages team without an IGL, so theres some precedent that it can work, and their playstyle also fits the team structure
so... probably forever? we'll have to see if they're able to adapt after a loss/hard antistrat, but realistically they should be able toobviously they'll still be super dependent on individual skill, but that hasn't stopped them so far
the main worry imo is that they themselves will struggle to antistrat, which is a huge damper on actually winning an international event
they still had an igl. they didnt have a natural igl, but the role was always defined, it may have been shifted from time to time. but at every point there was a fixed igl.
and liquid didnt do that well, probably ever. they had the strongest firepower in the pre franchise era (prx also have good fp), that was what carried them to international events. if you want mediocre success like liquid, then sure yeah....
Targu1n [#6]liquid managed to be a pretty good for ages team without an IGL, so theres some precedent that it can work, and their playstyle also fits the team structure
so... probably forever? we'll have to see if they're able to adapt after a loss/hard antistrat, but realistically they should be able toobviously they'll still be super dependent on individual skill, but that hasn't stopped them so far
the main worry imo is that they themselves will struggle to antistrat, which is a huge damper on actually winning an international event
can you even anti strat prx?
prx have the weirdest strats and they always pull random bullshit out of their ass
I think to beat them you need to fundamentally change the way you play, like early drx
yoboikingkong [#7]they still had an igl. they didnt have a natural igl, but the role was always defined, it may have been shifted from time to time. but at every point there was a fixed igl.
and liquid didnt do that well, probably ever. they had the strongest firepower in the pre franchise era (prx also have good fp), that was what carried them to international events. if you want mediocre success like liquid, then sure yeah....
thats true^ but we also had com videos from the time and they also had everyone calling midround so its very similar to prx
sliggy also ranted mentioned that he had to take over all the IGL duties when it comes to pre-match preparation so I dont think its that different to the prx structure
and they also didn't do bad? like we have higher expectations of prx, but 4th, 3-4th in 2021 (and 7-8th, 7-8th in 2022) isnt that bad for international events - there's better results but its really not bad
Regarding the firepower: I definitely agree (hence why I also mentioned it as a major factor for prx) but liquid also cooked a tooooon xD they had some of the wildest comps and strats - they only went to Reykjavik in 2021 due to inventing the post plant meta, they got destroyed the qualifier before
bobkiller [#9]can you even anti strat prx?
prx have the weirdest strats and they always pull random bullshit out of their ass
I think to beat them you need to fundamentally change the way you play, like early drx
Im not exactly an analyst so idek
you can antistrat tendencies so ig that's the main point you'd go to vs prx, but im just wildly guessing
imma leave that up to the teams in champs when prx have their full roster, we'll see what they prepare
MNFRKK [#8]CGRS igl-ing on split map according to PRX press conference just now
Can u send pc link?
Targu1n [#10]thats true^ but we also had com videos from the time and they also had everyone calling midround so its very similar to prx
sliggy alsorantedmentioned that he had to take over all the IGL duties when it comes to pre-match preparation so I dont think its that different to the prx structureand they also didn't do bad? like we have higher expectations of prx, but 4th, 3-4th in 2021 (and 7-8th, 7-8th in 2022) isnt that bad for international events - there's better results but its really not bad
Regarding the firepower: I definitely agree (hence why I also mentioned it as a major factor for prx) but liquid also cooked a tooooon xD they had some of the wildest comps and strats - they only went to Reykjavik in 2021 due to inventing the post plant meta, they got destroyed the qualifier before
yea lets see. i definitely have more faith in prx being able to win a tournament than i had in 2022 or 21 liquid