Which teams do u think in franchising have the chance of beating the reigning champions.
Fnatic while definitely not unbeatable is still miles ahead of some teams in Tokyo while some of them can surely give them a run for their money.
Imo Loud Liquid PRX and maybe NRG can achieve it
Don't think the others stand a chance tho
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babysasuke [#2]LOUD is reigning champion actually
I remember Fnatic beating them but it's not worth my time arguing with u
bonkashi [#4]Liquid can, Loud can, PRX honestly could mess them up as a playstyle thing, and DRX can do it if they recover well.
Doubt any other teams will be able to.
DRX seems really really shaky though yeah anything can happen... it's Valorant after all☠️☠️
aceofrainbows [#5]if eg were to lose to them early in the playoffs and then go on a lower bracket run, I could see them winning a rematch
Can't wait to see Demon1 in action
Tokyo is stacked
TmhariMummy [#3]I remember Fnatic beating them but it's not worth my time arguing with u
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RealDeal [#8]india flag
I can see that u can identify flags now
Major achievement
U should mention that in Ur CV
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]LOUD NRG PRX DRX and TL
DRX is still a top team itw imo and they just underperformed in playoffs
A bit doubtful about NRG Nd DRX but u never know ☠️
TmhariMummy [#14]A bit doubtful about NRG Nd DRX but u never know ☠️
Nah NRG and DRX ALWAYS show up at these international events.
Them along with LOUD are the three most consistent teams itw
TmhariMummy [#9]I can see that u can identify flags now
Major achievement
U should mention that in Ur CV
yeah ill put that in my cv for tech support job i heard theyre hiring
TmhariMummy [#3]I remember Fnatic beating them but it's not worth my time arguing with u
Then liquid is reigning champ because they beat Fnatic?
bonkashi [#4]Liquid can, Loud can, PRX honestly could mess them up as a playstyle thing, and DRX can do it if they recover well.
Doubt any other teams will be able to.
PRX without something? Not a chance. LOUD yes, Liquid maybe. DRX has an even worser chance against FNATIC than PRX without something
ajwinner [#18]Then liquid is reigning champ because they beat Fnatic?
Someone teach this guy how tournaments work
Asuna_Yuuki [#15]Nah NRG and DRX ALWAYS show up at these international events.
Them along with LOUD are the three most consistent teams itw
DRX like Fnatic have a habit of choking...every year they come in with a world class team and seem unbeatable until suddenly they are out of the tournament
yoboikingkong [#17]humbling for some teams coming in tokyo, dont you worry.
prx is one of them
also a lot of them are completely undermining chinese teams, that sure is scary af
I would agree...but until Tokyo starts...we have to just speculate with recent stats
Being honest...every team has a fair chance
TmhariMummy [#27]Let them handle MxM first
I dont have a single doubt in my mind, that theyll do it without flinching
Dolphin [#29]I dont have a single doubt in my mind, that theyll do it without flinching
I hope not
I support MxM lol🥲
TmhariMummy [#24]Someone teach this guy how tournaments work
Usually in tournaments, when you win the final u are the champion ...
cryyBAE [#32]Usually in tournaments, when you win the final u are the champion ...
That makes Fnatic the reigning champions as they were the last to win anything internationally
Liquid won a regional grand finals
I'm sure ajwinner knows the difference between international and regional tourneys
cryyBAE [#32]Usually in tournaments, when you win the final u are the champion ...
I know what you mean cryyBAE but he is right sadly. FNC are the reigning champs. I think every regions tournament is separate from internationals IMO
TmhariMummy [#25]DRX like Fnatic have a habit of choking...every year they come in with a world class team and seem unbeatable until suddenly they are out of the tournament
Sorry but I dont see anything any counter arguments to Asuna comments DRX makes consistent deep runs in tournaments. if they won or not the whole event is another discussion. they are consistent in the top ranks and this a fact.
TmhariMummy [#33]That makes Fnatic the reigning champions as they were the last to win anything internationally
Liquid won a regional grand finals
I'm sure ajwinner knows the difference between international and regional tourneys
ohh, u mean the pre-season without lower bracket tournament hahahahaha
cryyBAE [#36]ohh, u mean the pre-season without lower bracket tournament hahahahaha
Yes the one in which Loud lost a 11-3 lead to the current reigning champions
Ringing any bells?
brahianv [#35]Sorry but I dont see anything any counter arguments to Asuna comments DRX makes consistent deep runs in tournaments. if they won or not the whole event is another discussion. they are consistent in the top ranks and this a fact.
I'm just speculating....DRX surely have a chance of beating Fnatic but my opinion is they don't
Yessirskiiii [#34]I know what you mean cryyBAE but he is right sadly. FNC are the reigning champs. I think every regions tournament is separate from internationals IMO
How they can be a reigning champ winning only a pre season tournament? Win tokyo and champs and this title will be ok.
TmhariMummy [#37]Yes the one in which Loud lost a 11-3 lead to the current reigning champions
Ringing any bells?
Try to win something important first, like champions or tokyo
cryyBAE [#39]How they can be a reigning champ winning only a pre season tournament? Win tokyo and champs and this title will be ok.
I mean its fact people call LOUD the current World champs fnatic winning lock in does not change that.
cryyBAE [#39]How they can be a reigning champ winning only a pre season tournament? Win tokyo and champs and this title will be ok.
I know what you mean brother but still... We gotta give FNC their respect imo. But Tokyo is starting soon anyways so we will have a new king
adilKhan [#19]PRX without something? Not a chance. LOUD yes, Liquid maybe. DRX has an even worser chance against FNATIC than PRX without something
oh shit forgot about something. hopefully they get him in, he has a massive japanese fanbase.
Yessirskiiii [#42]I know what you mean brother but still... We gotta give FNC their respect imo. But Tokyo is starting soon anyways so we will have a new king
I respect FNC i don't respect the fanbase. They won a pre season tournament and think their team is the the best team ever and then lost to liquid 3-1 in the emea finals (With 2 map bans hahahaha), reality check
TmhariMummy [#33]That makes Fnatic the reigning champions as they were the last to win anything internationally
Liquid won a regional grand finals
I'm sure ajwinner knows the difference between international and regional tourneys
Notice how you said "anything" because it wasnt even a Master's or Champs event lol. It was an exhibition tournament bro dont get ahead of yourself
cryyBAE [#44]I respect FNC i don't respect the fanbase. They won a pre season tournament and think their team is the the best team ever and then lost to liquid 3-1 in the emea finals (With 2 map bans hahahaha), reality check
I feel like all the best teams got annoying fans, hell even i'm an annoying NAVI fan (most of it is just for fun tho). It's just the bandwagoners i feel you. Also cryyBAE i might tell you, you're one of my favourite BR users
Yessirskiiii [#46]I feel like all the best teams got annoying fans, hell even i'm an annoying NAVI fan (most of it is just for fun tho). It's just the bandwagoners i feel you. Also cryyBAE i might tell you, you're one of my favourite BR users
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Since Fnatic just use the same shit AND the same dogshit comps over and over for like 5 months now (that lotus comp makes me puke), the other teams have like 10k vods of them, they're the top teams from the other regions which means they can use those vods and beat them just like TL did.
NRG PRX LOUD DRX TL all can beat Fnatic if they just continue studying the vods. Fnatic are so so so slow that I don't think they'll be able to come up with completely new stuff in just 2 weeks, they ain't NAVI.
cryyBAE [#47]<3
The irony of you calling fnatic fans annoying while denying the fact that fantuc did WIN the last international tournament and disregarding it just because it’s single elimination when EVERY sport plays Sibelius elimination because it’s a better format even cs plays single elimination the fact is winning a single elimination tournament is harder than double elimination because you can’t lose and still have a chance to win a tournament that lets a team win and if that team loses beats the tens that made it to the grand final without losing it means both teams have lost the same amount of games but the team that lost 1st gets to win being from Brazil I expect you to understand this as you are country that loves sports and competition but clearly I was expecting to much I forgot people form Brazil will disregard anything not from Brazil and even deny winners or tournament champions just so they can still have their team being the champions still June their not the hypocrisy that Brazilians have is only matched by americas
Moiraine [#48]Since Fnatic just use the same shit AND the same dogshit comps over and over for like 5 months now (that lotus comp makes me puke), the other teams have like 10k vods of them, they're the top teams from the other regions which means they can use those vods and beat them just like TL did.
NRG PRX LOUD DRX TL all can beat Fnatic if they just continue studying the vods. Fnatic are so so so slow that I don't think they'll be able to come up with completely new stuff in just 2 weeks, they ain't NAVI.
Once again team liquid fans bringing down the collective iq of emea the only reason liquid beat fantuc was because 4 out of 5 players were having off days with 1 even being sick otherwise just like the 2 other times you would of got obliterated as despite fact you still almost lost to fnatic playing the worset they have all season long
Plus are you really this much in denial or just stupid you are so arrogant liquid will get knocked out far before fnatic while you were exposing new comps new strats all emea season fnatic have been saving their strats the reason why they haven’t changed anything is because they didn’t need to change anything and unlike liquid they actually have a chance at winning masters tokyo so instead of going all out to win a pretty pointless match they still continued to save their strats as team liquid are not worth enough for fnatic to take so seriously that they need to expose strats as they don’t care taht much about the emea trophy as to them only the tokyo playoffs spots are the thing that is important from playoffs while liquid went all out for a not very important trophy because they know it is the only 1 they have any chance of winning wait until masters tokyo begins and fnatic start using their strats they have saved up and actually do well while liquid gets completely humbled in masters tokyo and their emea win gets exposed as them only being able to win it because fnatic were saving strats and 4 out of 5 if their players were having off days while all of liquids players were in top form and they still lost a map to fnatic and had 2 more close maps as well it’s not fnatic getting exposed at masters tokyo it’s liquid and this arrogance that you liquid fans seem to have gotten from a almost pointless match will get squashed while you watch fnatic and navi once again carry emea
shizuku_hajime [#50]Once again team liquid fans bringing down the collective iq of emea the only reason liquid beat fantuc was because 4 out of 5 players were having off days with 1 even being sick otherwise just like the 2 other times you would of got obliterated as despite fact you still almost lost to fnatic playing the worset they have all season long
Plus are you really this much in denial or just stupid you are so arrogant liquid will get knocked out far before fnatic while you were exposing new comps new strats all emea season fnatic have been saving their strats the reason why they haven’t changed anything is because they didn’t need to change anything and unlike liquid they actually have a chance at winning masters tokyo so instead of going all out to win a pretty pointless match they still continued to save their strats as team liquid are not worth enough for fnatic to take so seriously that they need to expose strats as they don’t care taht much about the emea trophy as to them only the tokyo playoffs spots are the thing that is important from playoffs while liquid went all out for a not very important trophy because they know it is the only 1 they have any chance of winning wait until masters tokyo begins and fnatic start using their strats they have saved up and actually do well while liquid gets completely humbled in masters tokyo and their emea win gets exposed as them only being able to win it because fnatic were saving strats and 4 out of 5 if their players were having off days while all of liquids players were in top form and they still lost a map to fnatic and had 2 more close maps as well it’s not fnatic getting exposed at masters tokyo it’s liquid and this arrogance that you liquid fans seem to have gotten from a almost pointless match will get squashed while you watch fnatic and navi once again carry emea
holy shit i am actually not reading allat
TmhariMummy [#37]Yes the one in which Loud lost a 11-3 lead to the current reigning champions
Ringing any bells?
Blud forgot about the 2x0 Fnatic lead with 5 experienced players against a duelist playing controller and a guy who got grouped in masters
shizuku_hajime [#50]Once again team liquid fans bringing down the collective iq of emea the only reason liquid beat fantuc was because 4 out of 5 players were having off days with 1 even being sick otherwise just like the 2 other times you would of got obliterated as despite fact you still almost lost to fnatic playing the worset they have all season long
Plus are you really this much in denial or just stupid you are so arrogant liquid will get knocked out far before fnatic while you were exposing new comps new strats all emea season fnatic have been saving their strats the reason why they haven’t changed anything is because they didn’t need to change anything and unlike liquid they actually have a chance at winning masters tokyo so instead of going all out to win a pretty pointless match they still continued to save their strats as team liquid are not worth enough for fnatic to take so seriously that they need to expose strats as they don’t care taht much about the emea trophy as to them only the tokyo playoffs spots are the thing that is important from playoffs while liquid went all out for a not very important trophy because they know it is the only 1 they have any chance of winning wait until masters tokyo begins and fnatic start using their strats they have saved up and actually do well while liquid gets completely humbled in masters tokyo and their emea win gets exposed as them only being able to win it because fnatic were saving strats and 4 out of 5 if their players were having off days while all of liquids players were in top form and they still lost a map to fnatic and had 2 more close maps as well it’s not fnatic getting exposed at masters tokyo it’s liquid and this arrogance that you liquid fans seem to have gotten from a almost pointless match will get squashed while you watch fnatic and navi once again carry emea
chokenatic
shizuku_hajime [#50]Once again team liquid fans bringing down the collective iq of emea the only reason liquid beat fantuc was because 4 out of 5 players were having off days with 1 even being sick otherwise just like the 2 other times you would of got obliterated as despite fact you still almost lost to fnatic playing the worset they have all season long
Plus are you really this much in denial or just stupid you are so arrogant liquid will get knocked out far before fnatic while you were exposing new comps new strats all emea season fnatic have been saving their strats the reason why they haven’t changed anything is because they didn’t need to change anything and unlike liquid they actually have a chance at winning masters tokyo so instead of going all out to win a pretty pointless match they still continued to save their strats as team liquid are not worth enough for fnatic to take so seriously that they need to expose strats as they don’t care taht much about the emea trophy as to them only the tokyo playoffs spots are the thing that is important from playoffs while liquid went all out for a not very important trophy because they know it is the only 1 they have any chance of winning wait until masters tokyo begins and fnatic start using their strats they have saved up and actually do well while liquid gets completely humbled in masters tokyo and their emea win gets exposed as them only being able to win it because fnatic were saving strats and 4 out of 5 if their players were having off days while all of liquids players were in top form and they still lost a map to fnatic and had 2 more close maps as well it’s not fnatic getting exposed at masters tokyo it’s liquid and this arrogance that you liquid fans seem to have gotten from a almost pointless match will get squashed while you watch fnatic and navi once again carry emea
wow jamal dont pull out the 9
flames-leleo [#53]Blud forgot about the 2x0 Fnatic lead with 5 experienced players against a duelist playing controller and a guy who got grouped in masters
the duelist playing controller and guy who got grouped in masters who is better than all of americas??
shizuku_hajime [#50]Once again team liquid fans bringing down the collective iq of emea the only reason liquid beat fantuc was because 4 out of 5 players were having off days with 1 even being sick otherwise just like the 2 other times you would of got obliterated as despite fact you still almost lost to fnatic playing the worset they have all season long
Plus are you really this much in denial or just stupid you are so arrogant liquid will get knocked out far before fnatic while you were exposing new comps new strats all emea season fnatic have been saving their strats the reason why they haven’t changed anything is because they didn’t need to change anything and unlike liquid they actually have a chance at winning masters tokyo so instead of going all out to win a pretty pointless match they still continued to save their strats as team liquid are not worth enough for fnatic to take so seriously that they need to expose strats as they don’t care taht much about the emea trophy as to them only the tokyo playoffs spots are the thing that is important from playoffs while liquid went all out for a not very important trophy because they know it is the only 1 they have any chance of winning wait until masters tokyo begins and fnatic start using their strats they have saved up and actually do well while liquid gets completely humbled in masters tokyo and their emea win gets exposed as them only being able to win it because fnatic were saving strats and 4 out of 5 if their players were having off days while all of liquids players were in top form and they still lost a map to fnatic and had 2 more close maps as well it’s not fnatic getting exposed at masters tokyo it’s liquid and this arrogance that you liquid fans seem to have gotten from a almost pointless match will get squashed while you watch fnatic and navi once again carry emea
1st i'm not a TL fan lmfao
both teams can go suck a fat cock
2- You are actually mental if you think i'm gonna read a single word of that
kirrans [#56]the duelist playing controller and guy who got grouped in masters who is better than all of americas??
With the time yes during Lock//in no, it was literally their LOUD debut while the team was still testing and dictating compositions
flames-leleo [#58]With the time yes during Lock//in no, it was literally their LOUD debut while the team was still testing and dictating compositions
loud was absolutely still one of the best teams in the world at lock\in, beating DRX and NRG, testing/dictating compositions or not
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