Its over if there are still some deluded yay fans im sorry for your loss. He is trash ngl. He's losing duels like a muppet while being in a better spot dsg went 0-7 2-14 in maps to be precise
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benjy [#3]yay still is a good player, hopefully this doesn't make teams not want to pick him up.
analysts/coaches/managers dont think like vlr/reddit plebs
YeaUrMum [#2]Lot of their pearl A takes have no util for backsite and no late lurk plays. Doesn't look like they put in enough homework and prac
I mean don't get me wrong dsg was looking horrendous worse than ranked with no comms on god and those molly whiffs lots of 1vs1's 1vs3's lost but honestly dsg looked like the worst team in challengers and yay wasn't the one shining above the rest Exalt went off role and had some crazy kills this season clear was stable positive yay was just straight up bad im a lil bit salty bcs people still argue he's the best (he had 1 good year in a world class team with world class controllers/igl's with a playstyle that allowed everyone to shine it was visible how optic was setting him up and chamber meta ended valorant changed nd yay ended went to c9 got kicked went to dsg and got kicked out of challengers)
of course, only yay is trash, the rest of the team is alright though! of course we havent thought about the fact that the other team avoided yay’s site 95% of the CT side and he was left to retake with an operator! and since we’re looking at stats, yay went 7/3 and 3/1 in FK/FD! yet dsg couldn’t capitalize since this team doesn’t know how to use reyna flashes to deny the A site take! but i forgot that yay is playing a one man game, its solely his fault that they lost!
not sure what you want yay to do! he is trying to deny the defuse through astra wall by updrafting and using his jett knives but oh! as soon as he goes through the wall he gets team flashed! but its yay’s fault of course.
benjy [#3]yay still is a good player, hopefully this doesn't make teams not want to pick him up.
there's other reasons why yay isn't getting picked up
unironically yay doesn't fit into most team comps, you need a secondary playmaker who can play raze or neon like victor
keener1600 [#5]analysts/coaches/managers dont think like vlr/reddit plebs
I mean either he bounces back from the pit of hell or he doesn't and im betting on the second it's been 1,5yrs for him to actually play like a tier1 player in pro u can call me vlr plebs but this guy was getting set up by a world class team once he got coincidentally kicked went to c9 and got kicked again and c9 is looking better than ever and now he has 0.75 rating on jett imagine playing only 1 agent and being so below positive score even eggsalt went off role and did better on reyna
Cael [#6]I mean don't get me wrong dsg was looking horrendous worse than ranked with no comms on god and those molly whiffs lots of 1vs1's 1vs3's lost but honestly dsg looked like the worst team in challengers and yay wasn't the one shining above the rest Exalt went off role and had some crazy kills this season clear was stable positive yay was just straight up bad im a lil bit salty bcs people still argue he's the best (he had 1 good year in a world class team with world class controllers/igl's with a playstyle that allowed everyone to shine it was visible how optic was setting him up and chamber meta ended valorant changed nd yay ended went to c9 got kicked went to dsg and got kicked out of challengers)
you cannot say that C9 got better after Yay left. We did not see a single split from them. They beat PRX and almost beat DRX at lock in. We will never know the ceiling of that team.
aylez [#7]of course, only yay is trash, the rest of the team is alright though! of course we havent thought about the fact that the other team avoided yay’s site 95% of the CT side and he was left to retake with an operator! and since we’re looking at stats, yay went 7/3 and 3/1 in FK/FD! yet dsg couldn’t capitalize since this team doesn’t know how to use reyna flashes to deny the A site take! but i forgot that yay is playing a one man game, its solely his fault that they lost!
not sure what you want yay to do! he is trying to deny the defuse through astra wall by updrafting and using his jett knives but oh! as soon as he goes through the wall he gets team flashed! but its yay’s fault of course.
But why would you focus on others in the team when they were never considered good or even THE BEST like yay they performed to their expectations the whole team sucked af they played worse than a random immortal premier team even GO VALORANT would clap dsg on every map but if you say someone is the best and people still say that shit its controversial making it the topic to talk about nothing else put aspas in dsg and he goes 25kills each game 100%
Cael [#12]But why would you focus on others in the team when they were never considered good or even THE BEST like yay they performed to their expectations the whole team sucked af they played worse than a random immortal premier team even GO VALORANT would clap dsg on every map but if you say someone is the best and people still say that shit its controversial making it the topic to talk about nothing else put aspas in dsg and he goes 25kills each game 100%
Please use punctuation so youre more coherent
Cael [#12]But why would you focus on others in the team when they were never considered good or even THE BEST like yay they performed to their expectations the whole team sucked af they played worse than a random immortal premier team even GO VALORANT would clap dsg on every map but if you say someone is the best and people still say that shit its controversial making it the topic to talk about nothing else put aspas in dsg and he goes 25kills each game 100%
he focuses on that, because the team play can affect the individuals performance simple as that
aylez [#7]of course, only yay is trash, the rest of the team is alright though! of course we havent thought about the fact that the other team avoided yay’s site 95% of the CT side and he was left to retake with an operator! and since we’re looking at stats, yay went 7/3 and 3/1 in FK/FD! yet dsg couldn’t capitalize since this team doesn’t know how to use reyna flashes to deny the A site take! but i forgot that yay is playing a one man game, its solely his fault that they lost!
not sure what you want yay to do! he is trying to deny the defuse through astra wall by updrafting and using his jett knives but oh! as soon as he goes through the wall he gets team flashed! but its yay’s fault of course.
Also it wasn't a team flash idk what u smoking + his KAST% is just bad not to mention that this game was one of his best performances out of the 7 they played this split in last 30days 14FK 24 FD 0.75 rating on sage 0.57
Cael [#15]Also it wasn't a team flash idk what u smoking + his KAST% is just bad not to mention that this game was one of his best performances out of the 7 they played this split in last 30days 14FK 24 FD 0.75 rating on sage 0.57
His team has consistently played shit and you expect a player to thrive in the environment? thats braindead
Cael [#6]I mean don't get me wrong dsg was looking horrendous worse than ranked with no comms on god and those molly whiffs lots of 1vs1's 1vs3's lost but honestly dsg looked like the worst team in challengers and yay wasn't the one shining above the rest Exalt went off role and had some crazy kills this season clear was stable positive yay was just straight up bad im a lil bit salty bcs people still argue he's the best (he had 1 good year in a world class team with world class controllers/igl's with a playstyle that allowed everyone to shine it was visible how optic was setting him up and chamber meta ended valorant changed nd yay ended went to c9 got kicked went to dsg and got kicked out of challengers)
1 good year? when you just started watching VAL in 2022 moment.
keener1600 [#11]you cannot say that C9 got better after Yay left. We did not see a single split from them. They beat PRX and almost beat DRX at lock in. We will never know the ceiling of that team.
I didnt say they are better after he left but at the same time they are like sorry not sorry we don't know why and what the ceiling would be like u said but i doubt kicking him out was for fun and coincidentally they look the best ever and i highly doubt they would look better with him that's what i mean and facts are if u look at his performance in T2 valorant and getting absolutely man handled by ore and mad it just goes to show he's losing DUELS with them im telling u imagine Aspas dgzin etc playing there don't you see them having ~25 kills each map i do
kskm [#16]replace yay with your favorite duelist and result wouldnt change for the better - pretty good chance it gets worse
Keep going to sleep thinking that.
Cheddar [#18]1 good year? when you just started watching VAL in 2022 moment.
lmao yes check his achievements indeed 2022 was the year he was good before he didnt win anything and after so am i wrong?
Cael [#21]lmao yes check his achievements indeed 2022 was the year he was good before he didnt win anything and after so am i wrong?
You are wrong, he was a very solid player in 2021 and was a huge part of NV reaching 2nd in masters berlin
Cookierookie577 [#17]His team has consistently played shit and you expect a player to thrive in the environment? thats braindead
That's braindead thinking a paid proffesional that's considered one of the best in the world would be so heavily impacted by other's gameplay when supposedly he was carrying others year prior? then what happened? that u get 0.75 on agent u played like 3100 rounds on in pro and a staggering 0.57 on sage bro some no names peformed better in t1 valo while their team being totally dog water and it being their first year in t1 same goes for A LOT of new faces in t2
Nilonesia [#22]You are wrong, he was a very solid player in 2021 and was a huge part of NV reaching 2nd in masters berlin
That was one thing in 2021 (btw had the easiest opponents they could had wished for at the time) nothing else to say he was insanely good for more than a year and then they went to champions and didnt get out of groups then was his best year 2022 and nothing else
yaiima0 [#25]Derke wouldn’t do shit if he was on this team
He ain't even the best player on his own tier 2 team rofl. Exalt played better than him.
Cael [#23]That's braindead thinking a paid proffesional that's considered one of the best in the world would be so heavily impacted by other's gameplay when supposedly he was carrying others year prior? then what happened? that u get 0.75 on agent u played like 3100 rounds on in pro and a staggering 0.57 on sage bro some no names peformed better in t1 valo while their team being totally dog water and it being their first year in t1 same goes for A LOT of new faces in t2
You're saying he's supposed to replicate the performance he had on Optic??? That's fucking stupid knowing damn well optic had structure and good players while DSG have none. DSG are total shit none of teams in T2 or T1 are remotely close to them, even he went +15 his team still lost.
Cookierookie577 [#28]You're saying he's supposed to replicate the performance he had on Optic??? That's fucking stupid knowing damn well optic had structure and good players while DSG have none. DSG are total shit none of teams in T2 or T1 are remotely close to them, even he went +15 his team still lost.
No? im saying he can't replicate any of his performances and on top of that you're kinda adding to my point he had it good in optic that's why he got called the best but after optic what happened? he is b a d. and if you say T2 are not close to optic i agree so why did your best player in the world frag out in T1 valo and can't do shit in T2 as a DUELIST i repreat DUELIST the point of a duelist is being able to create something ALONE you are supposed to go in first u are supposed to backstab you are supposed to hold the side down without util he did none of that. Again look how other duelists played in challengers its a night and day difference there's no denying it or coping this is pure delusion to say that he only played bad because they played bad they can say the same thing "we expected yay the best player in the world to frag out but he didnt do shit so we didnt know what to do"
Cael [#29]No? im saying he can't replicate any of his performances and on top of that you're kinda adding to my point he had it good in optic that's why he got called the best but after optic what happened? he is b a d. and if you say T2 are not close to optic i agree so why did your best player in the world frag out in T1 valo and can't do shit in T2 as a DUELIST i repreat DUELIST the point of a duelist is being able to create something ALONE you are supposed to go in first u are supposed to backstab you are supposed to hold the side down without util he did none of that. Again look how other duelists played in challengers its a night and day difference there's no denying it or coping this is pure delusion to say that he only played bad because they played bad they can say the same thing "we expected yay the best player in the world to frag out but he didnt do shit so we didnt know what to do"
No the point of my comment was to point out that Optic had team play and structure while DSG have none, you're fucking stupid if you think a duelist does everything alone, his team has to set him up, that literally applies to every duelist in T1. Again, you can't compare any of the T2 teams to DSG they're utter dogshit, their teamplay is fucking absymal. (He's literally replicated it by going +15 and they still lost)
Cookierookie577 [#30]No the point of my comment was to point out that Optic had team play and structure while DSG have none, you're fucking stupid if you think a duelist does everything alone, his team has to set him up, that literally applies to every duelist in T1. Again, you can't compare any of the T2 teams to DSG they're utter dogshit, their teamplay is fucking absymal. (He's literally replicated it by going +15 and they still lost)
He doesn't do everything alone but duelist is the one that is supposed to get the kills and win his duels he has a kit that allows him to do it and dsg was indeed trying to set him up but he overcomits overheats and overteps a lot and he did good in optic T1 valo went to other teams and cant do anything u can't say someone is good or the best at something when they are useless without other best players and who got all the credit no one talked about it before that optic was giving him freebies with their immense gameplay but everyone said he's el diablo now he's el dogshit how can u say it wasn't his fault when he had TWO good games this split TWO the rest he was almost the worst in the team AGAIN look at OTHER duelists in considerably shit teams btw mad lions changed their squad like 3 times and went winless last split u don't see what's wrong with being able to frag out in t1 and cant do anything later in t1 and then in t2 like i said they can say the same thing they expected him to do something but he did nothing making it much harder one game he went like -20
Cael [#31]He doesn't do everything alone but duelist is the one that is supposed to get the kills and win his duels he has a kit that allows him to do it and dsg was indeed trying to set him up but he overcomits overheats and overteps a lot and he did good in optic T1 valo went to other teams and cant do anything u can't say someone is good or the best at something when they are useless without other best players and who got all the credit no one talked about it before that optic was giving him freebies with their immense gameplay but everyone said he's el diablo now he's el dogshit how can u say it wasn't his fault when he had TWO good games this split TWO the rest he was almost the worst in the team AGAIN look at OTHER duelists in considerably shit teams btw mad lions changed their squad like 3 times and went winless last split u don't see what's wrong with being able to frag out in t1 and cant do anything later in t1 and then in t2 like i said they can say the same thing they expected him to do something but he did nothing making it much harder one game he went like -20
- to be clear nerve was the worst pickup for dsg ever (yay vouched) face the truth im not saying he's the worst player in the world or that he doesn't deserve to play pro valo but he doesn't deserve to be considered one of the best in the world and rn he doesn't deserve T1 valo aswell they all were shit we already all established it all=all yay included
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