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owner [#2]Acend champions
Optic masters
Optic has been the most consistent core at lans with no bad events apart from ig champions. Their win was very deserved.
owner [#2]Acend champions
Optic masters
So lemme get your logic straight, if an EMEA team won Masters Reykjavik, it wouldn't have been a fluke? Since they "abused" Yay's chamber. And it was a "perfect meta" for OpTic at the time? Literally everyone else was using Chamber and that's a fact. It wasn't a fluke. Stop this nonsense.
Of course I'm just assuming what the reason is for you calling it a fluke, but literally everyone else that's said it's a fluke has just been mad that FPX couldn't make it at the time. Grow up. And stop calling everything a fluke. It's never a fluke, give the players/teams the credit they deserve. Thank you.
owner [#2]Acend champions
Optic masters
Acend was the best EMEA team of 2021, the whole playoffs was just EMEA, obviously they'd win. Anyone who actually watched the game during that time would know, they hadnt lost a single high stake game.
danii1 [#7]So lemme get your logic straight, if an EMEA team won Masters Reykjavik, it wouldn't have been a fluke? Since they "abused" Yay's chamber. And it was a "perfect meta" for OpTic at the time? Literally everyone else was using Chamber and that's a fact. It wasn't a fluke. Stop this nonsense.
Of course I'm just assuming what the reason is for you calling it a fluke, but literally everyone else that's said it's a fluke has just been mad that FPX couldn't make it at the time. Grow up. And stop calling everything a fluke. It's never a fluke, give the players/teams the credit they deserve. Thank you.
The zeta flair defending flukes 😭😭😹
soraol [#6]Optic masters
sen masters
sen?
they were so dominant . no maps dropped. i wouldn’t call that a fluke.
BoF7ooM [#10]The zeta flair defending flukes 😭😭😹
I'm not even defending Zeta in this post. The meta was just different and some teams were better at it than the others. It's just simple as that.
Just trying to deny the truth by saying that Zeta had a fluke run. Don't change the topic of what I was talking about.
moonemi [#11]sen?
they were so dominant . no maps dropped. i wouldn’t call that a fluke.
Since then they even cant go to Masters and champion
soraol [#15]Since then they even cant go to Masters and champion
It's not like Acend did anything impactful either. What r these eu fans waffling abt?
moatz [#18]It's not like Acend did anything impactful either. What r these eu fans waffling abt?
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danii1 [#7]So lemme get your logic straight, if an EMEA team won Masters Reykjavik, it wouldn't have been a fluke? Since they "abused" Yay's chamber. And it was a "perfect meta" for OpTic at the time? Literally everyone else was using Chamber and that's a fact. It wasn't a fluke. Stop this nonsense.
Of course I'm just assuming what the reason is for you calling it a fluke, but literally everyone else that's said it's a fluke has just been mad that FPX couldn't make it at the time. Grow up. And stop calling everything a fluke. It's never a fluke, give the players/teams the credit they deserve. Thank you.
Pretty sure the optic run is called a fluke bcoz fpx couldn't make it there and fnc played without 2 of their best players
X10 vs Envy
Champions 2021
https://www.vlr.gg/51270/envy-vs-x10-crit-valorant-champions-decider-a/?game=57917&tab=overview
FLUKES
Acend Champions 2021: Had a relatively easy group and got helped by VK using exploit, they also fell off after tourney ended
DEBATABLE
SEN Reykjavik 2021: No one knew how to play the game yet, and they also did fall off afterward, but not to the extent of Acend
FNC LOCK//IN 2023: Mainly because of the format, they still looked dominant in every game except the final, as they did not drop a map until they played LOUD
OPTC Reykjavik 2022: This one is the closest to a real win, and the only arguements for this not being a legit win is because FPX couldn't attend and FNC was missing Derke, however, I think the win is valid because tehy placed 3rd and 2nd in Copenhagen and Champs.
REAL WINS
GMB Berlin 2021: This team was incredible in this tournament, and they followed it up with 2nd place at champs.
FPX Copenhagen 2022: This showed the potential of FPX that missed Reykjavik, especially after having to play with a sub for the first half of the tourney and then making the lower bracket run. Also placed 4th in Champs, so it wasn't a one time thing.
LOUD Champions 2022: LOUD bounced back from bombing out in Copenhagen, but they rightfully fought their way to the crown as they didn't lose a game in playoffs. This also proved that their 2nd place at Reykjavik was not a fluke, and their last place in Copenhagen was likely because they were placed in the group of death because KRU beat NIP.
Duessix [#28]FLUKES
Acend Champions 2021: Had a relatively easy group and got helped by VK using exploit, they also fell off after tourney ended
DEBATABLE
SEN Reykjavik 2021: No one knew how to play the game yet, and they also did fall off afterward, but not to the extent of Acend
FNC LOCK//IN 2023: Mainly because of the format, they still looked dominant in every game except the final, as they did not drop a map until they played LOUD
OPTC Reykjavik 2022: This one is the closest to a real win, and the only arguements for this not being a legit win is because FPX couldn't attend and FNC was missing Derke, however, I think the win is valid because tehy placed 3rd and 2nd in Copenhagen and Champs.
REAL WINS
GMB Berlin 2021: This team was incredible in this tournament, and they followed it up with 2nd place at champs.
FPX Copenhagen 2022: This showed the potential of FPX that missed Reykjavik, especially after having to play with a sub for the first half of the tourney and then making the lower bracket run. Also placed 4th in Champs, so it wasn't a one time thing.
LOUD Champions 2022: LOUD bounced back from bombing out in Copenhagen, but they rightfully fought their way to the crown as they didn't lose a game in playoffs. This also proved that their 2nd place at Reykjavik was not a fluke, and their last place in Copenhagen was likely because they were placed in the group of death because KRU beat NIP.
NA opinion detected, immediately rejected
Duessix [#28]FLUKES
Acend Champions 2021: Had a relatively easy group and got helped by VK using exploit, they also fell off after tourney ended
DEBATABLE
SEN Reykjavik 2021: No one knew how to play the game yet, and they also did fall off afterward, but not to the extent of Acend
FNC LOCK//IN 2023: Mainly because of the format, they still looked dominant in every game except the final, as they did not drop a map until they played LOUD
OPTC Reykjavik 2022: This one is the closest to a real win, and the only arguements for this not being a legit win is because FPX couldn't attend and FNC was missing Derke, however, I think the win is valid because tehy placed 3rd and 2nd in Copenhagen and Champs.
REAL WINS
GMB Berlin 2021: This team was incredible in this tournament, and they followed it up with 2nd place at champs.
FPX Copenhagen 2022: This showed the potential of FPX that missed Reykjavik, especially after having to play with a sub for the first half of the tourney and then making the lower bracket run. Also placed 4th in Champs, so it wasn't a one time thing.
LOUD Champions 2022: LOUD bounced back from bombing out in Copenhagen, but they rightfully fought their way to the crown as they didn't lose a game in playoffs. This also proved that their 2nd place at Reykjavik was not a fluke, and their last place in Copenhagen was likely because they were placed in the group of death because KRU beat NIP.
People can call FNC LOCK/IN a mickey mouse and I wouldn't mind, but calling it a fluke has gotta be a joke considering they almost didnt drop any maps not to mention they're still dominant
Duessix [#28]FLUKES
Acend Champions 2021: Had a relatively easy group and got helped by VK using exploit, they also fell off after tourney ended
DEBATABLE
SEN Reykjavik 2021: No one knew how to play the game yet, and they also did fall off afterward, but not to the extent of Acend
FNC LOCK//IN 2023: Mainly because of the format, they still looked dominant in every game except the final, as they did not drop a map until they played LOUD
OPTC Reykjavik 2022: This one is the closest to a real win, and the only arguements for this not being a legit win is because FPX couldn't attend and FNC was missing Derke, however, I think the win is valid because tehy placed 3rd and 2nd in Copenhagen and Champs.
REAL WINS
GMB Berlin 2021: This team was incredible in this tournament, and they followed it up with 2nd place at champs.
FPX Copenhagen 2022: This showed the potential of FPX that missed Reykjavik, especially after having to play with a sub for the first half of the tourney and then making the lower bracket run. Also placed 4th in Champs, so it wasn't a one time thing.
LOUD Champions 2022: LOUD bounced back from bombing out in Copenhagen, but they rightfully fought their way to the crown as they didn't lose a game in playoffs. This also proved that their 2nd place at Reykjavik was not a fluke, and their last place in Copenhagen was likely because they were placed in the group of death because KRU beat NIP.
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tuffybass [#26]wasn't it 3-1 in finals? cant say fluke if it was a semis game when that team dominates in finals
SEN was way better than TSM
Shidoh [#32]actually based comment
In my opinion Optic win is the most fluke one, since emea teams had a lot problems and were very underpowered going into that event.
soraol [#15]Since then they even cant go to Masters and champion
that wasnt fluke, people did not know how to play the game well then
GreyDaze [#24]Pretty sure the optic run is called a fluke bcoz fpx couldn't make it there and fnc played without 2 of their best players
NA frogs dont want to accept this win is the most fluke one.
brahianv [#38]NA frogs dont want to accept this win is the most fluke one.
then why did optic place 3rd and 2nd at the other LANs that year, higher than Fnatic at both and higher than FPX at one of them?
Duessix [#28]FLUKES
Acend Champions 2021: Had a relatively easy group and got helped by VK using exploit, they also fell off after tourney ended
DEBATABLE
SEN Reykjavik 2021: No one knew how to play the game yet, and they also did fall off afterward, but not to the extent of Acend
FNC LOCK//IN 2023: Mainly because of the format, they still looked dominant in every game except the final, as they did not drop a map until they played LOUD
OPTC Reykjavik 2022: This one is the closest to a real win, and the only arguements for this not being a legit win is because FPX couldn't attend and FNC was missing Derke, however, I think the win is valid because tehy placed 3rd and 2nd in Copenhagen and Champs.
REAL WINS
GMB Berlin 2021: This team was incredible in this tournament, and they followed it up with 2nd place at champs.
FPX Copenhagen 2022: This showed the potential of FPX that missed Reykjavik, especially after having to play with a sub for the first half of the tourney and then making the lower bracket run. Also placed 4th in Champs, so it wasn't a one time thing.
LOUD Champions 2022: LOUD bounced back from bombing out in Copenhagen, but they rightfully fought their way to the crown as they didn't lose a game in playoffs. This also proved that their 2nd place at Reykjavik was not a fluke, and their last place in Copenhagen was likely because they were placed in the group of death because KRU beat NIP.
Well AKTUALLY, SEN win wasn't a fluke because they won the entire challengers right after (defeating Envy with yay to do so)
Subreezy [#40]then why did optic place 3rd and 2nd at the other LANs that year, higher than Fnatic at both and higher than FPX at one of them?
optic are a good team, but fpx who were better than they were in m2 didnt attend thus the win has an asterisk
Duessix [#28]FLUKES
Acend Champions 2021: Had a relatively easy group and got helped by VK using exploit, they also fell off after tourney ended
DEBATABLE
SEN Reykjavik 2021: No one knew how to play the game yet, and they also did fall off afterward, but not to the extent of Acend
FNC LOCK//IN 2023: Mainly because of the format, they still looked dominant in every game except the final, as they did not drop a map until they played LOUD
OPTC Reykjavik 2022: This one is the closest to a real win, and the only arguements for this not being a legit win is because FPX couldn't attend and FNC was missing Derke, however, I think the win is valid because tehy placed 3rd and 2nd in Copenhagen and Champs.
REAL WINS
GMB Berlin 2021: This team was incredible in this tournament, and they followed it up with 2nd place at champs.
FPX Copenhagen 2022: This showed the potential of FPX that missed Reykjavik, especially after having to play with a sub for the first half of the tourney and then making the lower bracket run. Also placed 4th in Champs, so it wasn't a one time thing.
LOUD Champions 2022: LOUD bounced back from bombing out in Copenhagen, but they rightfully fought their way to the crown as they didn't lose a game in playoffs. This also proved that their 2nd place at Reykjavik was not a fluke, and their last place in Copenhagen was likely because they were placed in the group of death because KRU beat NIP.
Acend fell off after the tournament ended because Chamber added into the game (and something internal happening with Zeek), what do you expect?
Where is Yay now after Chamber practically got deleted?
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