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Yistyy

So lucky that they are in such a shit region where they can just fuck around all season and still be 2nd seed. If you try that in Americas you wouldn't make playoffs because of how competitive the teams are.

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ok bro come on now 💀

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true, c9 would destroy dogvi

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poverty org

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🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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Freedom baby

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Asuna_Yuuki

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True but NaVi are still insane

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based

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benmaimoon

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bro thinks americas is the best region lmao

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Yistyy

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Yeah cuz it's true

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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uhhh no

the good teams in emea (fnatic, navi, liquid) are a tad bit better than ur good teams (loud, nrg, c9)
the mid teams in emea (fut, giants, vitality, bbl) clear ur mid teams (furia, 100t, eg, leviatan)
the bad teams in emea (koi, kc, th) are equal to ur bad teams (sen, kru, mibr)

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Fnatic > loud, c9, nrg> navi, liquid

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Most apt, navi can jiggle up and down depending on ange1 performance other than that most apt

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Pengu12

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Dude I’m a huge navi fan but nrg after the role switches are def better

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Why did 100t beat FUT and Vit
Why did LEV beat VIT

EMEA has no results to prove that they can defeat mid Americas teams.

Why have only Americas teams been close to beating FNATIC

Only NaVi and FNC can beat Americas teams

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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its almost like teams can improve 💯💯🔥🔥😱😱

leviatan is kinda sucky rn so is 100t. the emea teams seem more promising. its just eye test though.

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Yea but my point is they look better because they play in a weaker league.

Judging by recent international results at Champions and LOCK IN Americas teams have outperformed EMEA

Also LIQUID doesnt stand a chance against NRG LOUD or C9 when they’re struggling against mid EMEA teams

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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EMEA is not a weaker league than AMERICAS... We have kc koi and th but you guys have kru mibr and sen

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Asuna_Yuuki

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kru mibr sen > kc koi th

At least KRU SEN and MIBR all took a map off of LOUD which KC failed to do

KRU was able to take a map off of EG which TH failed to do.

Results show Americas > EMEA

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vit blows but current fut clears. atakaptan>>>>

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patuj

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Guy pulling results from Red Bull Homegrounds haha

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Why not? They are the exact same rosters. Also 100t > VIT because 100t were at least able to beat VIT and VIT got stomped by LEV at Lock IN

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eivu

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You honestly think that Liquid would beat NRG or C9 in a bo3/bo5?

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Yea. They are the most overrated team rn.

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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NRG will be tough but C9 is doable.

They are still improving rapidly so lets see

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Asuna_Yuuki

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Liquid are struggling against teams like BBL, Giants, and VIT while C9 is stomping teams like LEV and Furia.

C9 clears

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CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer

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yeah because bbl giants and vit are actually good teams??? you literally just proved my point that emea mid teams are better than americas mid teams

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hell_on_earth

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i mean loud is 'struggling' against most teams yet it still clears every team that's not fnatic

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Fnc > Loud
NAVI < NRG
TL <<<< C9

I kinda agree with the mid teams, I just think eg is better then all the other mid teams mentioned and also Sen would dominate koi KC and th of pure firepower + Kru have proven to be decent

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benmaimoon

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thats why C9 easily dominating the league just after announcing t3 noname players

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Yistyy

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No, its cuz there is so much talent in NA even in the depths of t2 and collegiate. Meanwhile in SHITMEA you got kc koi and heretics which look worse than a premier team made by 5 content creators

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benmaimoon

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NRG-KOI 13-11 13-9 huh nrg bros almost lost to a premier team at lock in
imagine dropping 20 rounds to t10 shitmea content creators

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Yistyy

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Yeah, and KOI also beat Navi at the start of the season so that argument does not work

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benmaimoon

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losing against mibr works tho

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Yistyy

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How tho? its the same shit, fluke wins

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benmaimoon

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then beating loud is a fluke as well

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Yistyy

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Optic core vs loud is 4-4 nt bud. I don't know why you're trying to die on this hill

continue thread →

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BairyHalls

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u need to watch it bruh

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FDZO_ox_Pmg

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hell_on_earth

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mad because nrg tried to fuck around like navi but lost to teams like mibr and lev? are those the competitive teams you're referring to?

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benmaimoon

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based

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Yistyy

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Well till this day I wonder how tf nrg let mibr take that one, but lev could definitely clear 6 or 7 EMEA teams on a normal day, let alone if their opponents are trolling like navi.

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hell_on_earth

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i typed out an entire paragraph but then erased it because it was all hypotheticals. its such a shame we probably won't see so many of these teams play against each other this year because of so few internationals. like i'd love to see lev face a team like tl/giants but we probably won't see it in tokyo since lev are probably not even making playoffs. goddamn.

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Yistyy

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Yeah man it sucks I would have liked to see that as well

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aziren96

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Lol. chill man. It's a seeding match.

we are not stressed over qualifying here :))

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Yistyy

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Yeah navi are obviously really good, but it sucks to see them breeze through the season against literal tier 3 teams while not giving a flying fuck and running troll comps. Meanwhile good teams like Furia, 100T, Lev and EG have to work their asses off just to make playoffs because of how high the level is in Americas

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Shigeo

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good teams like Furia, 100T, Lev and EG

💀

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Yistyy

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All 4 of those teams clear all of EMEA besides fnatic and navi

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hell_on_earth

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if they play 3 pearls, maybe 😤

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mid vs mid tough

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hell_on_earth

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the problem is that aside from the gekko on lotus and todays comps most of their comps havent been really troll comps. they arent the comps they are gonna play in playoffs or internationals (aside maybe from the fracture comp) but theyre well prepped comps with alot of utility combos/set plays. even their gekko pearl was very well done (compare that to ange1 yoru split where they had no plan other than hit a on attack). navi win those games because the core have been playing like this with experimental comps for a long time and ange1 and doombros and the rest of the team know how to make it work. nrg just tried roleswapping.

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shadowvlr

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rich coming from a region with a team that changes their roster every three games (SEN) has a team trolling with role swaps (NRG) and a team that put their duelist on smokes (EG)

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eg&sen irrelevant; navi basically doing what nrg doing

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hell_on_earth

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no nrg had no idea how to experiment like navi and they paid for it. ange1 has been doing crazy comps in lower stakes matches forever

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Shownu

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NAVI would shit on Loud and C9 lmaooo. Where do you get such confidence from lil bro?

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Yistyy

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At least Loud took 2 maps off fnatic. Navi have faced them twice and couldn't do shit. Also C9 has been playing better than loud this season too so they could probably beat navi.

Not saying Navi are bad but the rest of emea is awful for getting shit slapped by a team trying to throw matches.

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daily NA thread underestimating EMEA