Why do people dislike shownu?

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h786

Debate is: if people dislike him because:

he likes fnatic too much and puts other teams down? (It is true somewhat)

Other regions dislike him because he preaches EU supremacy and puts other regions down? (which is dumb, imagine feeling pride because of where you were born you could’ve been born anywhere, however some people are aligned to some ideas based on where they were born, e.g. the stuff you see in NA )

He speaks the truth but in a harsh way so they ain’t ready to hear it?(Reasonable, look at people in history who were shut down because they spoke the truth)
They cannot refute him, thru try to stop him like people try to stop Babysasuke but he keeps coming back? (Although Babysasuke is much better at defending himself)

Cannot seem figure it out.

Edit: The title seems misleading, I’m asking the reasons why people dislike him, not, “ why do you dislike him, you shouldn’t dislike him” I have already assumed the narrative that he is disliked, as seen by the other thread.

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he is uncool

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Of all the things in the world, my man chose to defend Shownu...

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"they cannot refute him" I have never seen a single interaction where I have seen Shownu argue a logical point what is there to refute

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what a confused young boy you seem to be! despite all the valid reasons you thought of yourself it could only be because shownu speaks facts and is totally epic! 💔🐶💔

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He speaks the truth but in a harsh way so they ain’t ready to hear it?(Reasonable, look at people in history who were shut down because they spoke the truth)

bro thinks shownu is mlk 💀

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DarKnight007 [#3]

Of all the things in the world, my man chose to defend Shownu...

I’m not defending him, thought I was being neutral, I don’t see shownu any different from people like Babysasuke and the rest of the baiters on this site.

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who cars

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JustEnjoying [#7]

He speaks the truth but in a harsh way so they ain’t ready to hear it?(Reasonable, look at people in history who were shut down because they spoke the truth)

bro thinks shownu is mlk 💀

I HAVE A DREAM WHERE ONE DAY SHOWNU GETS BANNED

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JustEnjoying [#7]

He speaks the truth but in a harsh way so they ain’t ready to hear it?(Reasonable, look at people in history who were shut down because they spoke the truth)

bro thinks shownu is mlk 💀

You mean malcolm x, Muhammad Ali

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he is babysasuke on EU, the only difference is Babysasuke gets no support meanwhile he do gets support from his alt accounts

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h786 [#8]

I’m not defending him, thought I was being neutral, I don’t see shownu any different from people like Babysasuke and the rest of the baiters on this site.

So you're admitting that he is a baiter, hence ppl disliking him is justified?

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i like shownu

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DarKnight007 [#13]

So you're admitting that he is a baiter, hence ppl disliking him is justified?

Yes, but some baiters are more hated than others, while some baiters are loved, it is all dependent on personal preference, although some personal preferences are completely void of substance.

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en3sk0se [#14]

i like shownu

like he said, he gets support from his own alt

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IamVengeance [#16]

like he said, he gets support from his own alt

this account is older than shownu 💀

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en3sk0se [#17]

this account is older than shownu 💀

Then you are shownu main account 🗿

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IamVengeance [#12]

he is babysasuke on EU, the only difference is Babysasuke gets no support meanwhile he do gets support from his alt accounts

babysasuke does get support from his people at NA. Its just they have vanished as NA is essentially finished.

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The title seems misleading, I’m asking the reasons why people dislike him, not, “ why do you dislike him, you shouldn’t dislike him” I have already assumed the narrative that he is disliked, as seen by the other thread.

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h786 [#11]

You mean malcolm x, Muhammad Ali

idk but you got the point. He's Andrew Tate at this point

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BoF7ooM [#19]

babysasuke does get support from his people at NA. Its just they have vanished as NA is essentially finished.

big bean will essentially slap you around and make you call him daddy at tokyo

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Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#18]

Then you are shownu main account 🗿

true, i made this account and then made other accounts to bait ppl

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nutab1e [#22]

big bean will essentially slap you around and make you call him daddy at tokyo

see, his supporters are still there 😹 You just havent been in this site for long enough to remember 🗿

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It’s just funny to flame him cuz his takes or usually dogshit or bait territory, otherwise he’s a pretty cool guy

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en3sk0se [#23]

true, i made this account and then made other accounts to bait ppl

good, now apply for macdonalds

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The problem with shownu's baiting is that he is extremely unfunny. Read baits from trembo or babysasuke, they are genuine works of art.

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He used to be nice and innocent, then he quickly got corrupted by this website and became a baiter.

He still shows his innocent side once in a while though, like when he started planning his pro career after hitting ascendant lol

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Carthage_Er_Pola [#27]

The problem with shownu's baiting is that he is extremely unfunny. Read baits from trembo or babysasuke, they are genuine works of art.

Trembo one is masterpiece

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Nachtel [#28]

He used to be nice and innocent, then he quickly got corrupted by this website and became a baiter.

He still shows his innocent side once in a while though, like when he started planning his pro career after hitting ascendant lol

Xd

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What can NA fans do? The thing is Shownu is making fun of NA fans when they are at their absolute worst lmao, like zero good teams right now while EMEA has multiple to beat a team like 100T or SEN.
When babysasuke used to bait, he used to make stuff up and make EMEA and Boaster look shit, although we EMEA was doing well, like winning masters, getting every team in playoffs for champs and ending top 4. So EMEA couldnt really get butthurt, as it was all baits and stuff.
But the difference now is, NA are actual shit right now, so he is definitely hurting the feelings of the fans, which is not really a nice thing to do. Which is why he much more disliked.

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BoF7ooM [#31]

What can NA fans do? The thing is Shownu is making fun of NA fans when they are at their absolute worst lmao, like zero good teams right now while EMEA has multiple to beat a team like 100T or SEN.
When babysasuke used to bait, he used to make stuff up and make EMEA and Boaster look shit, although we EMEA was doing well, like winning masters, getting every team in playoffs for champs and ending top 4. So EMEA couldnt really get butthurt, as it was all baits and stuff.
But the difference now is, NA are actual shit right now, so he is definitely hurting the feelings of the fans, which is not really a nice thing to do. Which is why he much more disliked.

Read allat 🗿

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BoF7ooM [#31]

What can NA fans do? The thing is Shownu is making fun of NA fans when they are at their absolute worst lmao, like zero good teams right now while EMEA has multiple to beat a team like 100T or SEN.
When babysasuke used to bait, he used to make stuff up and make EMEA and Boaster look shit, although we EMEA was doing well, like winning masters, getting every team in playoffs for champs and ending top 4. So EMEA couldnt really get butthurt, as it was all baits and stuff.
But the difference now is, NA are actual shit right now, so he is definitely hurting the feelings of the fans, which is not really a nice thing to do. Which is why he much more disliked.

what is blud blabbering about

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BoF7ooM [#31]

What can NA fans do? The thing is Shownu is making fun of NA fans when they are at their absolute worst lmao, like zero good teams right now while EMEA has multiple to beat a team like 100T or SEN.
When babysasuke used to bait, he used to make stuff up and make EMEA and Boaster look shit, although we EMEA was doing well, like winning masters, getting every team in playoffs for champs and ending top 4. So EMEA couldnt really get butthurt, as it was all baits and stuff.
But the difference now is, NA are actual shit right now, so he is definitely hurting the feelings of the fans, which is not really a nice thing to do. Which is why he much more disliked.

only 2 eu teams can compete internationals rest gets owned

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IamVengeance [#34]

only 2 eu teams can compete internationals rest gets owned

Owned by LOUD and DRX. FUT/GIA/BBL all are the same level of team as SEN, 100T, EG. You'd be delusional to not understand that. That's what im saying here is, shownu is not very nice to NA fans. Yes, they are at a terrible spot right now, and he's saying allat to their face isnt super wholesome lmao.

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after all of these shownu threads for couple days, bro had a solid fanbase now 💀

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BoF7ooM [#31]

What can NA fans do? The thing is Shownu is making fun of NA fans when they are at their absolute worst lmao, like zero good teams right now while EMEA has multiple to beat a team like 100T or SEN.
When babysasuke used to bait, he used to make stuff up and make EMEA and Boaster look shit, although we EMEA was doing well, like winning masters, getting every team in playoffs for champs and ending top 4. So EMEA couldnt really get butthurt, as it was all baits and stuff.
But the difference now is, NA are actual shit right now, so he is definitely hurting the feelings of the fans, which is not really a nice thing to do. Which is why he much more disliked.

bro came back and wrote a manifesto after I owned him 🗿

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BoF7ooM [#35]

Owned by LOUD and DRX. FUT/GIA/BBL all are the same level of team as SEN, 100T, EG. You'd be delusional to not understand that. That's what im saying here is, shownu is not very nice to NA fans. Yes, they are at a terrible spot right now, and he's saying allat to their face isnt super wholesome lmao.

Half of the 10 teams from emea are garbage and will get own by eg. FUT/GIA/BBL are owned by Furia, LEv 100T, Sen. only 2 teams survives that is Navi or Fnatic. TL got owned by Ts who lost against rrq kekw.

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I know the origin.
It was some thread where he was fighting with some brazilians. The fight was normal and then I think he got triggered and made some
harsh remarks. The brazilians started calling him racist for those remarks and even though he was not racist, he became one.
Since then I have only seen him make triggered comments most of the time.
People hated him so he became one who is hated.

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NOCAPPPA [#39]

I know the origin.
It was some thread where he was fighting with some brazilians. The fight was normal and then I think he got triggered and made some
harsh remarks. The brazilians started calling him racist for those remarks and even though he was not racist, he became one.
Since then I have only seen him make triggered comments most of the time.
People hated him so he became one who is hated.

thread name?

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batchestingveryhard [#40]

thread name?

I forgot but it was during the xenophobic thread time,

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NOCAPPPA [#39]

I know the origin.
It was some thread where he was fighting with some brazilians. The fight was normal and then I think he got triggered and made some
harsh remarks. The brazilians started calling him racist for those remarks and even though he was not racist, he became one.
Since then I have only seen him make triggered comments most of the time.
People hated him so he became one who is hated.

Shownu lore poggers

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IamVengeance [#38]

Half of the 10 teams from emea are garbage and will get own by eg. FUT/GIA/BBL are owned by Furia, LEv 100T, Sen. only 2 teams survives that is Navi or Fnatic. TL got owned by Ts who lost against rrq kekw.

Furia, LEV, 100T, SEN play in their own mid-offs. Just overhyped ass teams, NAVI and FNC are likely to 13-2, 13-1 again. Giants/BBL/FUT/TL atleast gets more than 10 rounds against them. TS with their fluke win wont even qualify for tokyo at this rate, TL can qualify to Tokyo, and will win against most of these bottom feeder teams from Americas and Apac.
Don't let your delusional feelings get in the way, it will you who will be disappointed after Masters Tokyo lol.

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nutab1e [#37]

bro came back and wrote a manifesto after I owned him 🗿

I was too petrified of Big Bean 😯😢

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BoF7ooM [#43]

Furia, LEV, 100T, SEN play in their own mid-offs. Just overhyped ass teams, NAVI and FNC are likely to 13-2, 13-1 again. Giants/BBL/FUT/TL atleast gets more than 10 rounds against them. TS with their fluke win wont even qualify for tokyo at this rate, TL can qualify to Tokyo, and will win against most of these bottom feeder teams from Americas and Apac.
Don't let your delusional feelings get in the way, it will you who will be disappointed after Masters Tokyo lol.

these overhyped team still owns rest 8 emea teams

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BoF7ooM [#43]

Furia, LEV, 100T, SEN play in their own mid-offs. Just overhyped ass teams, NAVI and FNC are likely to 13-2, 13-1 again. Giants/BBL/FUT/TL atleast gets more than 10 rounds against them. TS with their fluke win wont even qualify for tokyo at this rate, TL can qualify to Tokyo, and will win against most of these bottom feeder teams from Americas and Apac.
Don't let your delusional feelings get in the way, it will you who will be disappointed after Masters Tokyo lol.

i wonder that is other 8 team even relevant in front of apac

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IamVengeance [#46]

i wonder that is other 8 team even relevant in front of apac

its okay to hate EMEA, but stop trying to prove why they're terrible other than two teams, this has gone bad for everyone that tried 😂 Not a single EMEA team has yet to not be in playoffs in every single international LAN (of course you're gonna count Fnatic with 2 subs). The results will do the speaking, then baiters like shownu will probably bait the living hell out of all of you 🤷‍♀️

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he’s like babysasuke except without any humor. He’s just a boring baiter

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BoF7ooM [#48]

its okay to hate EMEA, but stop trying to prove why they're terrible other than two teams, this has gone bad for everyone that tried 😂 Not a single EMEA team has yet to not be in playoffs in every single international LAN (of course you're gonna count Fnatic with 2 subs). The results will do the speaking, then baiters like shownu will probably bait the living hell out of all of you 🤷‍♀️

yeah results speaks a lot, like in lockin all 8 eu teams wiped off kekw

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hanafuuji [#10]

I HAVE A DREAM WHERE ONE DAY SHOWNU GETS BANNED

AND I TOO HAVE THIS DREAM

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just British is all

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BoF7ooM [#48]

its okay to hate EMEA, but stop trying to prove why they're terrible other than two teams, this has gone bad for everyone that tried 😂 Not a single EMEA team has yet to not be in playoffs in every single international LAN (of course you're gonna count Fnatic with 2 subs). The results will do the speaking, then baiters like shownu will probably bait the living hell out of all of you 🤷‍♀️

`Not a single EMEA team has yet to not be in playoffs in every single international LAN` my english is lot better then u kekw

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BoF7ooM [#24]

see, his supporters are still there 😹 You just havent been in this site for long enough to remember 🗿

Not boF7ooM telling nutable he hasn’t been here long enough 💀

Respect the second best (and only other) EG fan

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just British is all

stop its only Fnatic braindead fans, he doesnot represent whole country

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Carthage_Er_Pola [#27]

The problem with shownu's baiting is that he is extremely unfunny. Read baits from trembo or babysasuke, they are genuine works of art.

Stats!!

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NA fans are just snowflakes, not bothered at all. Until they win something without extenuating circumstances for other regions I'm talking all the shit.

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Neonfreak [#4]

"they cannot refute him" I have never seen a single interaction where I have seen Shownu argue a logical point what is there to refute

Bro contradicts himself calling shownu baiter right after saying "nobody can refute him" as if shownu tries to make a decent discussion

smh

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Shownu [#57]

NA fans are just snowflakes, not bothered at all. Until they win something without extenuating circumstances for other regions I'm talking all the shit.

EG is winning tokyo not much time left talk yo shit

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IamVengeance [#53]

`Not a single EMEA team has yet to not be in playoffs in every single international LAN` my english is lot better then u kekw

Your reading comprehension is a lot worse than me though kekw
I know the argument is already over, now that you have to attack my English which was completely understandable 🤣🤣

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JustEnjoying [#59]

EG is winning tokyo not much time left talk yo shit

"IM ANGRY NOW"

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BoF7ooM [#60]

Your reading comprehension is a lot worse than me though kekw
I know the argument is already over, now that you have to attack my English which was completely understandable 🤣🤣

when u loose debate then spam laugh emojis
~Loosers

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zardinez [#54]

Not boF7ooM telling nutable he hasn’t been here long enough 💀

Respect the second best (and only other) EG fan

I was telling the guy at the top, not nutable. Also our accounts are like 7 days apart, with less than half the posts though.

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AND I TOO HAVE THIS DREAM

ME THREE

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"IM ANGRY NOW"

lmfao this is exactly how everyone should react to your shit but sadly, kids amirite

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IamVengeance [#62]

when u loose debate then spam laugh emojis
~Loosers

when u loose debate then make stuff up about the other person's English or Grammar
~Loosers

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NA fans are just snowflakes, not bothered at all. Until they win something without extenuating circumstances for other regions I'm talking all the shit.

Extenuating circumstances is winning a single-elim bracket tournament

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when u loose debate then make stuff up about the other person's English or Grammar
~Loosers

when u cant understand what is blud waffling about, then question is to be asked
~Me

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Shownu [#57]

NA fans are just snowflakes, not bothered at all. Until they win something without extenuating circumstances for other regions I'm talking all the shit.

Comeup with something better baits, learn from Trembo, Babysasuke, RickyIndian.

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LyCan52 [#2]

he is uncool

I’m not biased at all, but he seems like an intelligent young boy

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Comeup with something better baits, learn from Trembo, Babysasuke, RickyIndian.

Thanks for the tips WANNABE

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NA fans are just snowflakes, not bothered at all. Until they win something without extenuating circumstances for other regions I'm talking all the shit.

stop d riding 0iq. it will be fine

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Bro contradicts himself calling shownu baiter right after saying "nobody can refute him" as if shownu tries to make a decent discussion

smh

There are different categories of baits.
1: baits that do not need your attention, absolute 0/8s you ignore these and everyone knows these are baits. They do not require refutation at all.

2 baits with some truth to them, they are meant to rile up the opposition, these baits get support from other baiters, and people who want to support the narrative, they require different levels of refutation, people who respond are usually ones to stop the narrative from furthering and to stop “misinformation”

3: trembolona level baits - these baits are absolutely believable, to a layman, it looks incredibly attractive and well thought out, these baits are refutable but still people believe them and agree with them.

The issue with people like shownu and Babysasuke, they speak facts sometimes, there is a reason people engage, there would be no reason to engage when everyone knows it’s a bait, it’s low quality and low effort. It requires effort to refute baits 2 and 3, If you ignore him, you completely dismiss and scoff at him and remove his power, but the fact that you engage with him, it shows that it has some merit, whether small or large. That’s what gives people like him fuel to post more.

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Germanium [#33]

what is blud blabbering about

UK user with GE flair 😦

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I don't think anyone with a brain cares enough about shownWHO to actually dislike him

He's just another UK Shitnatic fan and EU Supremacist baiter 🥱

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I’m not biased at all, but he seems like an intelligent young boy

that is not biased, its braindead

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h786 [#73]

There are different categories of baits.
1: baits that do not need your attention, absolute 0/8s you ignore these and everyone knows these are baits. They do not require refutation at all.

2 baits with some truth to them, they are meant to rile up the opposition, these baits get support from other baiters, and people who want to support the narrative, they require different levels of refutation, people who respond are usually ones to stop the narrative from furthering and to stop “misinformation”

3: trembolona level baits - these baits are absolutely believable, to a layman, it looks incredibly attractive and well thought out, these baits are refutable but still people believe them and agree with them.

The issue with people like shownu and Babysasuke, they speak facts sometimes, there is a reason people engage, there would be no reason to engage when everyone knows it’s a bait, it’s low quality and low effort. It requires effort to refute baits 2 and 3, If you ignore him, you completely dismiss and scoff at him and remove his power, but the fact that you engage with him, it shows that it has some merit, whether small or large. That’s what gives people like him fuel to post more.

clownu more like delusional then speaking facts

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h786 [#73]

There are different categories of baits.
1: baits that do not need your attention, absolute 0/8s you ignore these and everyone knows these are baits. They do not require refutation at all.

2 baits with some truth to them, they are meant to rile up the opposition, these baits get support from other baiters, and people who want to support the narrative, they require different levels of refutation, people who respond are usually ones to stop the narrative from furthering and to stop “misinformation”

3: trembolona level baits - these baits are absolutely believable, to a layman, it looks incredibly attractive and well thought out, these baits are refutable but still people believe them and agree with them.

The issue with people like shownu and Babysasuke, they speak facts sometimes, there is a reason people engage, there would be no reason to engage when everyone knows it’s a bait, it’s low quality and low effort. It requires effort to refute baits 2 and 3, If you ignore him, you completely dismiss and scoff at him and remove his power, but the fact that you engage with him, it shows that it has some merit, whether small or large. That’s what gives people like him fuel to post more.

whats blud waffling about + nah the dickridding is crazy

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babysasuke [#75]

I don't think anyone with a brain cares enough about shownWHO to actually dislike him

He's just another UK Shitnatic fan and EU Supremacist baiter 🥱

How are u back again

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Is this shownu’s alt?

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bump