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number1_MIBR_hater [#6]if you add top 2 and top 3 score, you still can't match aspas' score
the goat
huge gap
number1_MIBR_hater [#6]if you add top 2 and top 3 score, you still can't match aspas' score
the goat
Derke > Asspas
acels2 [#9]competitive=/= good, just trash vs trash
your best team was literally two rounds away from losing to a team with 2 rookies on their first international championship. don't act like Fnatic would have any chance against LOUD's old roster
EMEA league is way easier than Americas, LOUD would shit on those tier4 teams. even KRÜ would thrive on the EMEA league lmaooooooooooo
Shidoh [#11]your best team was literally two rounds away from losing to a team with 2 rookies on their first international championship. don't act like Fnatic would have any chance against LOUD's old roster
EMEA league is way easier than Americas, LOUD would shit on those tier4 teams. even KRÜ would thrive on the EMEA league lmaooooooooooo
YOUR DOG SHIT TEAM 3 ROUNDS AWAY FROM LOSING TO EG LMFAO FUCKING CLOWN ALSO CHOKED A 11-3 LEAD DESPITE HAVING CHEATING CROWD LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
BRONZILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL CHEAT AND STILL LOSE, FNATIC WOULD NEVER 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shidoh [#11]your best team was literally two rounds away from losing to a team with 2 rookies on their first international championship. don't act like Fnatic would have any chance against LOUD's old roster
EMEA league is way easier than Americas, LOUD would shit on those tier4 teams. even KRÜ would thrive on the EMEA league lmaooooooooooo
when fnatic stomps emea teams you make threads about emea being done, when fnatic has a close game against emea teams you make more threads about emea being done, what do you want exactly?
UvuvwevwevweOnyetenyevwe [#13]mid oper
lol bro when turkey become relevant in any esport you can call a worldstar player mid
Shidoh [#11]your best team was literally two rounds away from losing to a team with 2 rookies on their first international championship. don't act like Fnatic would have any chance against LOUD's old roster
EMEA league is way easier than Americas, LOUD would shit on those tier4 teams. even KRÜ would thrive on the EMEA league lmaooooooooooo
1 rookie.
Caucazan had LAN experience. stop coping.
Shidoh [#11]your best team was literally two rounds away from losing to a team with 2 rookies on their first international championship. don't act like Fnatic would have any chance against LOUD's old roster
EMEA league is way easier than Americas, LOUD would shit on those tier4 teams. even KRÜ would thrive on the EMEA league lmaooooooooooo
your league has lost every game to 2 rookies. if FNC>Loud and Loud>All the other teams in Americas then FNC>Americas.
Karmine corp would be mid table in Americas, you can take Heretics tho, maybe koi
xD1LL4N [#18]1 rookie.
Caucazan had LAN experience. stop coping.
in a different game (much lower magnitude tournament btw), and he's super young.
Shidoh [#17]lol bro when turkey become relevant in any esport you can call a worldstar player mid
a Turkish Man won champs before any Bronzillian
Shidoh [#20]in a different game (much lower magnitude tournament btw), and he's super young.
Wdym in a different game lil bro
https://www.vlr.gg/84646/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-decider-a
Wartorn [#19]your league has lost every game to 2 rookies. if FNC>Loud and Loud>All the other teams in Americas then FNC>Americas.
Karmine corp would be mid table in Americas, you can take Heretics tho, maybe koi
LOUD learned a lot during LOCK//IN. Americas teams also improved a lot after it. EMEA teams are just worse lol
Shidoh [#20]in a different game (much lower magnitude tournament btw), and he's super young.
Nope in valorant. You don't even know your own players history...
Shidoh [#17]lol bro when turkey become relevant in any esport you can call a worldstar player mid
Stay mad pls
Darklordd [#5]cNed exists and u talking about asspas
imagine talking about cned in 2023
overrated dude who managed to have a fluke run in champions 2021 because riot decided to give his team a 7-0 lead against a clearly better team
Darklordd [#5]cNed exists and u talking about asspas
aspas has 83 op kills in 6 games in the league
Shidoh [#20]in a different game (much lower magnitude tournament btw), and he's super young.
m0nesy been doing it for years and so many T2 players are that age that deserves a chance in T1 (especially Americas T1: Koalanoob, sym, oxy etc)
xD1LL4N [#21]a Turkish Man won champs before any Bronzillian
turkey is literally from both EU and Asia. if they didn't have at least one player in a relatively good EU team they would just be trash, honestly. you just don't see a lot of brazilians in international teams because most people can't speak proper english here
Shidoh [#23]LOUD learned a lot during LOCK//IN. Americas teams also improved a lot after it. EMEA teams are just worse lol
What about teams like TL? are they better now or would they still lose again? KC improved, TL improved, Fnatic and NAVI were always above americas, Vitality, FUT and Giants would beat most Americas teams. I dont see where Americas wins
Mortadelo [#22]Wdym in a different game lil bro
https://www.vlr.gg/84646/ninjas-in-pyjamas-vs-zeta-division-valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k-decider-a
as if they didn't leave the tournament quick af. you can't compare cauanzin's LAN experience with most of Fnatic players'
Wartorn [#30]m0nesy been doing it for years and so many T2 players are that age that deserves a chance in T1 (especially Americas T1: Koalanoob, sym, oxy etc)
imagine finding exceptions and making them the rule
you must be great in statistics
xD1LL4N [#26]Nope in valorant. You don't even know your own players history...
tbh by "on their first international championship" i meant the roster. a lot of teams were in the same situation, but it's different when most of the players are literal kids. saadhak had to guide 4 kids to the grand final.
Shidoh [#28]imagine talking about cned in 2023
overrated dude who managed to have a fluke run in champions 2021 because riot decided to give his team a 7-0 lead against a clearly better team
Still salty because your team used illegal cam and acend rolled everyone and won first champions ever huh
Shidoh [#34]as if they didn't leave the tournament quick af. you can't compare cauanzin's LAN experience with most of Fnatic players'
3 games, just like Leo, Lock in MVP, I don't think it's too relevant. Also Brazil has had plenty of domestic LAN's with crowd
Shidoh [#11]your best team was literally two rounds away from losing to a team with 2 rookies on their first international championship. don't act like Fnatic would have any chance against LOUD's old roster
EMEA league is way easier than Americas, LOUD would shit on those tier4 teams. even KRÜ would thrive on the EMEA league lmaooooooooooo
13-3d by EG
Wartorn [#32]What about teams like TL? are they better now or would they still lose again? KC improved, TL improved, Fnatic and NAVI were always above americas, Vitality, FUT and Giants would beat most Americas teams. I dont see where Americas wins
gimme your second best team. i bet gigaKRÜ would shit on them
Shidoh [#36]tbh by "on their first international championship" i meant the roster. a lot of teams were in the same situation, but it's different when most of the players are literal kids. saadhak had to guide 4 kids to the grand final.
How old do you think FNC players are, just curious
veyyyyron [#29]aspas has 83 op kills in 6 games in the league
Aspas only plays jett and has 83 op kills
While cned played yoru and omen for 104 rounds and has 61.
Shidoh [#35]imagine finding exceptions and making them the rule
you must be great in statistics
Not really an exception seeing I provided multiple people. Okay I'll give more. S1mple went pro at 16, alfajer is 17 aswell. Most players go pro at 17/18 and Csgo is the same, everyone is the same as cauanzin. Part of the reason that T1 pros are older ages is because of nepotism and systems already being in place without adding new players you have to teach, coach and integrate
Shidoh [#31]turkey is literally from both EU and Asia. if they didn't have at least one player in a relatively good EU team they would just be trash, honestly. you just don't see a lot of brazilians in international teams because most people can't speak proper english here
You don't see any Brazillians in Europe or asian teams bc their is better players in their own region
emirerays [#37]Still salty because your team used illegal cam and acend rolled everyone and won first champions ever huh
funny cause its like most people don't even remember acend won anything ever. idk about you guys, but that shit looked like a beta test
Shidoh [#31]turkey is literally from both EU and Asia. if they didn't have at least one player in a relatively good EU team they would just be trash, honestly. you just don't see a lot of brazilians in international teams because most people can't speak proper english here
So learn it dummy, turkish players dont speak english either they are learning it.
dapada [#8]c9 is your second best team bro🤦🏻♂️
this gives me an "if the best team is g2, then you know something is wrong up" vibes
Shidoh [#41]gimme your second best team. i bet gigaKRÜ would shit on them
Kru lose to 100%: Fnatic, Navi, Giants, FUT, Vitality, TL
Game is close but KRU lose most likely: BBL, KC, KOI
Game is 50/50: Heretics
Kru are getting dominated and disbanding in EMEA
Shidoh [#47]funny cause its like most people don't even remember acend won anything ever. idk about you guys, but that shit looked like a beta test
KEKW stay mad kid. cNed is the first champions winner and you got nothing to do.
emirerays [#43]Aspas only plays jett and has 83 op kills
While cned played yoru and omen for 104 rounds and has 61.
1 omen map
2 yoru map
bought an awp 66 times, aspas 64
Shidoh [#36]tbh by "on their first international championship" i meant the roster. a lot of teams were in the same situation, but it's different when most of the players are literal kids. saadhak had to guide 4 kids to the grand final.
Loud and Fnatic players ages are very similar.
Saadhak and boaster 26/27 and the rest younger then 20...
emirerays [#48]So learn it dummy, turkish players dont speak english either they are learning it.
imagine comparing brazil's situation to turkey's. your country has european countries as neighbours, it's way more important learning english there. brazilian states are as big as turkey's neighbours and every one has portuguese as its native language. we don't really need a second language in a daily basis, get some geography classes
Shidoh [#47]funny cause its like most people don't even remember acend won anything ever. idk about you guys, but that shit looked like a beta test
So you think that Fnatic losing to SEN in the finals of Reykjavic was too long ago to count aswell? And you are going to use this to discredit Gambits win aswell? Will you try this in 6 months to discredit FPX's?
fmadwerdna [#38]this stat is braindead, obviously aspas is gonna have the highest op kills if he literally plays op every 3 rounds
he leads first kills either. and ACS.
Wartorn [#50]Kru lose to 100%: Fnatic, Navi, Giants, FUT, Vitality, TL
Game is close but KRU lose most likely: BBL, KC, KOI
Game is 50/50: HereticsKru are getting dominated and disbanding in EMEA
my bro Melser disagrees
Wartorn [#55]So you think that Fnatic losing to SEN in the finals of Reykjavic was too long ago to count aswell? And you are going to use this to discredit Gambits win aswell? Will you try this in 6 months to discredit FPX's?
So you think that Fnatic losing to SEN in the finals of Reykjavic was too long ago to count aswell
not because it was too long ago, but because it was the first international championship. all those SEN players are washed nowadays
veyyyyron [#52]1 omen map
2 yoru mapbought an awp 66 times, aspas 64
Aspas is better than cned anyday in every iteration. These EU kids are dumb
Shidoh [#54]imagine comparing brazil's situation to turkey's. your country has european countries as neighbours, it's way more important learning english there. brazilian states are as big as turkey's neighbours and every one has portuguese as its native language. we don't really need a second language in a daily basis, get some geography classes
Turkey is not near any primarily English speaking countries. There are 10+ different languages beside them aside from English, which would actually make it harder as Brazil just has to know Portuguese and possibly English. Most countries worldwide also learn a second language, which is most commonly English. Brazil learns Spanish or English normally. This is not an excuse
dapada [#8]c9 is your second best team bro🤦🏻♂️
NAVI got shit on by TS and they suck in pacific rn LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
veyyyyron [#52]1 omen map
2 yoru mapbought an awp 66 times, aspas 64
So ? In the match against giants he got 22 op kills in 3 maps and he only played jett. 3 maps does make a difference. Stop being bias.
Wartorn [#44]Not really an exception seeing I provided multiple people. Okay I'll give more. S1mple went pro at 16, alfajer is 17 aswell. Most players go pro at 17/18 and Csgo is the same, everyone is the same as cauanzin. Part of the reason that T1 pros are older ages is because of nepotism and systems already being in place without adding new players you have to teach, coach and integrate
when did i mention becoming a pro as a young man is a problem? you didn't really get my point
emirerays [#62]So ? In the match against giants he got 22 op kills in 3 maps and he only played jett. 3 maps does make a difference. Stop being bias.
aspas is just better
Wartorn [#60]Turkey is not near any primarily English speaking countries. There are 10+ different languages beside them aside from English, which would actually make it harder as Brazil just has to know Portuguese and possibly English. Most countries worldwide also learn a second language, which is most commonly English. Brazil learns Spanish or English normally. This is not an excuse
but there is a huge amount of different countries with different primary languages in a relatively "small" area (comparing to BR's total area) in EU, so they NEED to learn a COMMON language to be able to interact with each other. is it that hard to understand? tourism and working/studying abroad is a thing there, did you know that? should i draw to make it easier?
Shidoh [#58]So you think that Fnatic losing to SEN in the finals of Reykjavic was too long ago to count aswell
not because it was too long ago, but because it was the first international championship. all those SEN players are washed nowadays
When ACEND won Champions, they beat; Keyd stars, ENVY (old optic roster), Team Secret (who beat Vikings), Liquid (who beat C9(Who beat VS(DRX), SEN and KRU), and Gambit (who beat KRU (who beat FNC), Vikings and X10).
If FNC losing to SEN counts because SEN players are now bad, then ACEND beating all these teams, who most players are still in T1 Valorant and good players, is definitely counted.
weakest_marved_enjoyer [#61]NAVI got shit on by TS and they suck in pacific rn LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
huh? navi?
EG got shit on by TLN and they are worse than TS rn LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ic4rusYam2 [#65]Am I the only one who always thought Operator was a very strange name for a sniper?
OpERaTOr
agreed
most valorant gun names suck imo
Shidoh [#63]when did i mention becoming a pro as a young man is a problem? you didn't really get my point
you didnt present it as a problem, you presented it as an excuse. I am telling you that this is not an excuse because most players go pro at the same age and arent given the same excuse. You didnt really get any points
firefirefirefire [#66]Kkkkkkkkk 40 min de post e já tem quase 70 comentários,
os caras nunca vão aceitar primo
eu me divirto pakas, mt bom tiltar gringo
Shidoh [#57]my bro Melser disagrees
You mean the Melser that has a 1.0 rating and a .95 k/d? If thats the star of your team you are presenting to save your argument they might lose to Heretics. The star of the team being a 1.0 rating in a weaker region isnt beating any teams
Wartorn [#75]You mean the Melser that has a 1.0 rating and a .95 k/d? If thats the star of your team you are presenting to save your argument they might lose to Heretics. The star of the team being a 1.0 rating in a weaker region isnt beating any teams
my bro is sacrificing himself to make his team comfortable while playing against the Americas beasts, it is very understandable, cmon
Wartorn [#72]you didnt present it as a problem, you presented it as an excuse. I am telling you that this is not an excuse because most players go pro at the same age and arent given the same excuse. You didnt really get any points
thing is, youger players are more vulnerable. some might thrive, but historically they need a lot of experience to be able to reach their true potential. neither tuyz or cauanzin have hit this potential yet
dapada [#70]huh? navi?
EG got shit on by TLN and they are worse than TS rn LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
LMAO i was thinking of the TL game my fault
still EMEA is washed
Shidoh [#68]but there is a huge amount of different countries with different primary languages in a relatively "small" area (comparing to BR's total area) in EU, so they NEED to learn a COMMON language to be able to interact with each other. is it that hard to understand? tourism and working/studying abroad is a thing there, did you know that? should i draw to make it easier?
Then why does China learn English? Why does Russia learn English? You are complaing about not being able to interact with other regions because you do not have a common language with them, and then telling me that you shouldnt have to learn a common language. Make it make sense.
firefirefirefire [#66]Kkkkkkkkk 40 min de post e já tem quase 70 comentários,
os caras nunca vão aceitar primo
os malucos querendo falar de cned kkkkkkkkkkkk
Shidoh [#78]thing is, youger players are more vulnerable. some might thrive, but historically they need a lot of experience to be able to reach their true potential. neither tuyz or cauanzin have hit this potential yet
Then why do you think that other teams players have reached their potentials? And why do you think that they will definitely be better than other players that currently exist, they could be busts
Wartorn [#80]Then why does China learn English? Why does Russia learn English? You are complaing about not being able to interact with other regions because you do not have a common language with them, and then telling me that you shouldnt have to learn a common language. Make it make sense.
i said we don't need a second language in a DAILY BASIS. we have english classes, they are just trash tho. people don't care enough because they don't need it as much as european people. we DO LEARN english, it's just not very efficient because things haven't gotten to the point where we really really need it. but ofc knowing english open a lot of windows for you, and that's why i am glad i know it
Shidoh [#76]my bro is sacrificing himself to make his team comfortable while playing against the Americas beasts, it is very understandable, cmon
"Americas Beasts"? He is sacrificing and still losing? Sounds like a weak team. It's very understandable that they wouldnt beat EMEA teams, cmon
Shidoh [#83]i said we don't need a second language in a DAILY BASIS. we have english classes, they are just trash tho. people don't care enough because they don't need it as much as european people. we DO LEARN english, it's just not very efficient because things haven't gotten to the point where we really really need it. but ofc knowing english open a lot of windows for you, and that's why i am glad i know it
Again, a lot of european countries dont NEED a second language in a DAILY BASIS. You are blaming the lack of care to learn English on someone else and complaining that other countries learn English to help later in life more. European countries can live normal lives only speaking their national language, English is not a necessity
Ic4rusYam2 [#65]Am I the only one who always thought Operator was a very strange name for a sniper?
OpERaTOr
Op=awp since cs days
Op=operator
Fits well
Shidoh [#54]imagine comparing brazil's situation to turkey's. your country has european countries as neighbours, it's way more important learning english there. brazilian states are as big as turkey's neighbours and every one has portuguese as its native language. we don't really need a second language in a daily basis, get some geography classes
First off, turkey does not have any neighbours that speaks english as their main language. And second if you want to live at any european country you need to know that countrys language. English can easily be learned by the internet. Just because english is common language in europe that doesnt mean turkish people should learn it.
emirerays [#88]First off, turkey does not have any neighbours that speaks english as their main language. And second if you want to live at any european country you need to know that countrys language. English can easily be learned by the internet. Just because english is common language in europe that doesnt mean turkish people should learn it.
never said it was the main language, genius #71
Shidoh [#68]but there is a huge amount of different countries with different primary languages in a relatively "small" area (comparing to BR's total area) in EU, so they NEED to learn a COMMON language to be able to interact with each other. is it that hard to understand? tourism and working/studying abroad is a thing there, did you know that? should i draw to make it easier?
To study at any university other than england. You need to know that countrys language. In france you need to know french. In germany you need to know german. In spain you need to know spanish. Etc. It can be say for working aswell. So all you say is excuses.
Shidoh [#89]never said it was the main language, genius #71
You said that they have european countries as neighbours so its way more important learning english. And i said to you that none of the turkeys neighbours speaks english in their countries.
emirerays [#43]Aspas only plays jett and has 83 op kills
While cned played yoru and omen for 104 rounds and has 61.
bro cned is washed lol, cant compare him to aspas
Wartorn [#69]When ACEND won Champions, they beat; Keyd stars, ENVY (old optic roster), Team Secret (who beat Vikings), Liquid (who beat C9(Who beat VS(DRX), SEN and KRU), and Gambit (who beat KRU (who beat FNC), Vikings and X10).
If FNC losing to SEN counts because SEN players are now bad, then ACEND beating all these teams, who most players are still in T1 Valorant and good players, is definitely counted.
i never said it didn't count because old SEN players are washed. the first championship was the first clash of regions and things were unstable. because of that, even players with potential couldn't thrive, while some random guys (like SicK ffs?) succeeded temporarily. the first champions had a lot of guys who had potential and still have nowadays, but things were still developing (tho more stable than in Reykjavik) and flukes were more frequent than it is now.
now, LOUD and FNATIC might still suffer upsets, but they are way more robust than teams in 2021, considering there is a greater stability overall