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#1
randomperson

why does acs not take deaths into account
like i just went 14-0 so my kd is 14 but my reyna whose kd is 1.7 has better acs?
ik first kills also count to acs but isn't that the duelists job anyways?

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randomperson
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https://tracker.gg/valorant/match/d92c3695-4fa5-4b81-abf8-f9b9fe5fd1a3
this is the game

#3
BoF7ooM
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You were killing the players that had low hp after reyna and neon did all the damage

#4
Blaxtonn
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you get more combat score for killing enemies with more teammates, so first bloods give most, then seconds frags, etc

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randomperson
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BoF7ooM [#3]

You were killing the players that had low hp after reyna and neon did all the damage

yeah but they just running everywhere playing for kills
how am i supposed to do more damage

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CowboySG2
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Reyna did over 1k more damage than you, and had 3 more FKs than you did. ACS cares about how much impact per round you had, not so much if you died alot

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PoonRaccoon
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u had trash 145 ADR compared to gigachad reyna with 200+ ADR

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Bonkbonk201
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randomperson [#5]

yeah but they just running everywhere playing for kills
how am i supposed to do more damage

sounds like a skill issue then, but also acs /= kills/deaths, acs shows how good you actually played during the game (first kills and more valuable plays rather than just following someone and trading them, you have 1 FK, 100% kast, it's almost 90% of the time trade kills i'd guess, which are still good kills, but not nearly as valuable as reyna/neon's 4 and 5 FK's, there's also the DPR which has a point of value, i've topfragged easily in games before but because i didn't get as much value/impact i don't get top performance bonus, it's stats u don't normally notice which make up acs as well as just kda and stuff

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Bonkbonk201 [#8]

sounds like a skill issue then, but also acs /= kills/deaths, acs shows how good you actually played during the game (first kills and more valuable plays rather than just following someone and trading them, you have 1 FK, 100% kast, it's almost 90% of the time trade kills i'd guess, which are still good kills, but not nearly as valuable as reyna/neon's 4 and 5 FK's, there's also the DPR which has a point of value, i've topfragged easily in games before but because i didn't get as much value/impact i don't get top performance bonus, it's stats u don't normally notice which make up acs as well as just kda and stuff

yeah but like im kind of forced to trade unless i want to dry peek everything
the duelists have util that help them get kills so doesn't that just mean i should lock duelists for more rr?

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Bonkbonk201
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randomperson [#9]

yeah but like im kind of forced to trade unless i want to dry peek everything
the duelists have util that help them get kills so doesn't that just mean i should lock duelists for more rr?

i mean dude, your like bronze/silver, if u can't dry peek and win fights, don't focus on anything but aim/mechanics ngl, u need it

#11
xD1LL4N
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PoonRaccoon [#7]

u had trash 145 ADR compared to gigachad reyna with 200+ ADR

This. ACS is kinda useless, ADR is the real important stat

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randomperson
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Bonkbonk201 [#10]

i mean dude, your like bronze/silver, if u can't dry peek and win fights, don't focus on anything but aim/mechanics ngl, u need it

i just trade and play safer cause my friends who are higher rank said you win more games if you do

#13
NotMidUser
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randomperson [#12]

i just trade and play safer cause my friends who are higher rank said you win more games if you do

it is on a supporting role. u did ur job great if u can keep finding all those trades.

but the duelists did their job with so many opening picks, they got u guys a man advantage 70% of the rounds u played

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NotMidUser [#13]

it is on a supporting role. u did ur job great if u can keep finding all those trades.

but the duelists did their job with so many opening picks, they got u guys a man advantage 70% of the rounds u played

yeah so like the duelists get extra rr for doing their job but i dont for doing mine
isn't that just encouraging more people to instalock duelist?

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NotMidUser
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randomperson [#14]

yeah so like the duelists get extra rr for doing their job but i dont for doing mine
isn't that just encouraging more people to instalock duelist?

yeah acs is a horrible measure of impact. but at the same time, there's more things to worry about if ur in low elo than who gets to play duelist.

#16
SeizVlr
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i know you are just discussing but stats really don't matter on a 13-0 win if the game is close why not as a sentinel your only job is to hold the site you decide to play on, everything else doesn't matter.

For example if you continually hold C EVERYTIME they push you but when they go A they destroy your team, you really can't blame yourself

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