ScreaM will quit Valorant

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RoadRunneR

I kinda feel like he doesn't like the post plant Molly, Shock Dart Meta and he will just leave Valorant.

It's so annoying to have Guns but your enemies don't show up and still win. Pretty trash Game to be serious but i still like it.

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a post I made yesterday:

https://www.vlr.gg/19662/post-plant-meta-in-icelan

I guessed right xD

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RoadRunneR

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didn't see. ty

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Not really. You can always push the lineup player and have other ways to deal with it. Its not about the game but the strats and how to push the post plant.

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RoadRunneR

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ofc bro. you can chase them for 20+ seconds and make your way back to defuse. Of course bro. It's like saying Sova ain't broken cause you can break the arrow or just dodge. xD

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In post plants you almost always know their positions. It is easy to counter if you actually think about it.

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You can't counter it if your in a 1v2 its impossible

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whycare

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A 1v2 is anyway not a favourable position to win. Like cmon just because Liquid lost you can't blame this. Most of the time it was just Liquid being bad

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RoadRunneR

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it tilted me to see this cowardish playstyle to be honest. wanted to see real fights but then this post plant shit was abused over and over. TL did that too many times. still its something nobody enjoys to play against.

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How is it cowardice? It is most likely that your retake was slow and you wasted too much time. Like a sova dart is instant, kj stuff is destructible and viper can be pushed because the mollies are quite slow. It actually makes the game enjoyable as the other team has to be creative to counter that. It is always not about gunfights as util is there to help you

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RoadRunneR

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bro its not like you play against rocks and plants. they are on the watch and they have also sound so they can just get in cerners or places you cant reach cause you would have no time to defuse anymore

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On Haven you can have lineups on A and C from t spawn as viper and sova, obviously extremely hard to time it correctly but at that point it becomes almost uncounterable. Same on other maps too, you can just lineup from spawn and enemy either wastes literally 30 secs pushing you or try to stick defuse through mollies

also "just push" isnt viable outside of low rank MM, pro teams whos T sides are literally based around post plant will have multiple people playing back, so you have to spend time pushing, kill the three people playing off the bomb site, and get back in time to defuse

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If its a lineup from spawn you can half and get off.

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That is what a well time flank is for. A retake doesn't mean the entire team rushes into site from the same place. This meta will inspire creative plays around timing and positioning.

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TinglyPiano

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i just think a matter of time before ppl will find multiple post plant position, and it will be even harder to counter. I'm sure there will be new strat to counter that though

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Leave TL

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A 1v2 is anyway not a favourable position to win. Like cmon just because Liquid lost you can't blame this. Most of the time it was just Liquid being bad

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This game was made for him with the gun mechanics. Plus his brother now being on Liquid. Plus it might get some adjustments in the future. He’s not gonna be any more successful in CSGO.

Line ups were not why TL lost. V1 arguably could have 2-0 them without choking on split. V1 was just better, simple as that.

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BAN_ANIME

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Plus his brother now being on Liquid

If nivera in, who goes out?

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Shanty

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Honestly no clue. I joke, but after that throw, Soulcas will be getting fans eyes on him as a replacement. Jamppi, Scream and Link showed up today. I don’t know enough about Team Liquid team dynamic to make a true guess though.

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big_chungus69

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maybe l1nk because smokes are the easiest role and they would want to ease nivera into the game

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Larry

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where do you see anything of Nivera joining Liquid lol?

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Shanty

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https://dotesports.com/valorant/news/nivera-is-reportedly-close-to-joining-team-liquids-valorant-team