Gee wiz guys DSG really helped the scene!

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Faraday

I'm so glad he got a meme team, atleast now for 2 games there was high viewership in GC
sure glad he didn't get a real team that would've atleast held viewers further into the tourney

But-t-t-t Faraday! He couldn't get a real team in time, he still really cares for the scene!

spent $0 on the game, just got his friends to play which advertised his org
Gosh what a saint, it's not at all completely self serving

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Once again with these DSG toast threads you guys can't fucking read

My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe, it is completely self serving
YES it is okay that the streamers did it, they did nothing wrong
YES it is okay for toast to make a meme team of his streamer friends
NO it is not okay that DSG Toast gets clout for caring about GC when he lost nothing and gained free advertising

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I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

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I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

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Careful 😬

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Faraday [#2]

DSG toast is completely self serving like every other streamer
Doesn't actually care about GC

so how much different is that from all the other orgs?

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I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

ARGHARGHQIU?

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I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

dont say it bro
i got thread taken down in minutes
but we all know you are right

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They can't beat EG with a team that's made out of one pro and 4 content creators. Don't know what ppl expected tbh

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9999th L thread of Faraday 🗿

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Luck_ [#7]

dont say it bro
i got thread taken down in minutes
but we all know you are right

🥺

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danii1 [#8]

They can't beat EG with a team that's made out of one pro and 4 content creators. Don't know what ppl expected tbh

EG also has keenc who is on the same level as florescent as a duelist...
I mean I didnt expect dsg to beat EG here so it's all good.

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He ain't wrong. Shrug

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But he spent 300k on paying the team...
And before you say oh streamers don't need to get paid, they are taking time out of streaming (which is big money) to play in a tournament and practicing a lot for it as well. It doesn't seem fair that just because they are content creators, they can't put effort in to improve and try their best to play in a tournament. Also even if it is for 2 games, their opponents will also get attention because lots of people will be watching them as well
Overall, i think it is still great for gc and even if it isn't, you can't be going around and saying that they aren't a real team just because they are content creators.

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But he spent 300k on paying the team...
And before you say oh streamers don't need to get paid, they are taking time out of streaming (which is big money) to play in a tournament and practicing a lot for it as well. It doesn't seem fair that just because they are content creators, they can't put effort in to improve and try their best to play in a tournament. Also even if it is for 2 games, their opponents will also get attention because lots of people will be watching them as well
Overall, i think it is still great for gc and even if it isn't, you can't be going around and saying that they aren't a real team just because they are content creators.

He didn't pay them

the streamers streamed the game which gave them more viewership

'practicing', I thought they streamed the scrims aswell? Sounds very serious

none of the viewers are gonna watch random players just because they shit on their streamers

Do you actually think the team was made to try to win? My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe

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Mbappe [#5]

so how much different is that from all the other orgs?

Because no one seriously believes that companies actually care about lgbt when they put a pride flag as their pfp but when a streamer does it people think it's not.

If people defended companies as actually caring for stuff I would make a post about how dumb it is to think it's not just self serving aswell

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Nahbooo [#3]

I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

there is a reason why certain kind dont like DSG's team or any team that doesnt include their kind in their rosters.

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crashhacker1 [#16]

there is a reason why certain kind dont like DSG's team or any team that doesnt include their kind in their rosters.

FR

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EG also has keenc who is on the same level as florescent as a duelist...
I mean I didnt expect dsg to beat EG here so it's all good.

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People are really complaining for an open qualifier game? Jeez

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I mean GC tournaments ain't ending any time soon so he would definitely make another roster with full time pros in the future

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oce with no brain cells
R E A L 🗿

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Imagine getting this mad over fucking game changers

Bro just dont watch it like most of us. Its not worth getting upset over

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Moiraine [#22]

Imagine getting this mad over fucking game changers

Bro just dont watch it like most of us. Its not worth getting upset over

Imagine getting this mad over fucking game changers thread

Bro just dont open it like most of us. Its not worth getting upset over

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bruh you're acting like they had a direct invite and signed a streamer team. they went through open quals ffs.

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Faraday [#14]

He didn't pay them

the streamers streamed the game which gave them more viewership

'practicing', I thought they streamed the scrims aswell? Sounds very serious

none of the viewers are gonna watch random players just because they shit on their streamers

Do you actually think the team was made to try to win? My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe

The people who got paid dont seem to complain, moreover they seem happy. Whats your problem with them not getting paid?

damn "streamers" did something to get more viewership. how wrong of them.

its their choice to be serious or not, their time, their money, why are you crying?

But at least they know of them now, which doesnt seem that bad given even that wouldnt have happened

Again, the people who put in their time and effort dont seem to complain, if they are fine losing why are you crying about it. You are being cringe by playing down the minimal efforts anyone else is putting in when you yourself just sit behind the screen doing nothing.

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The people who got paid dont seem to complain, moreover they seem happy. Whats your problem with them not getting paid?

damn "streamers" did something to get more viewership. how wrong of them.

its their choice to be serious or not, their time, their money, why are you crying?

But at least they know of them now, which doesnt seem that bad given even that wouldnt have happened

Again, the people who put in their time and effort dont seem to complain, if they are fine losing why are you crying about it. You are being cringe by playing down the minimal efforts anyone else is putting in when you yourself just sit behind the screen doing nothing.

That crazy, can you show where I said the streamers were in the wrong?
or for that matter where I said toast is wrong for making a meme team?

Because you must just have missed this line I'll repeat for you

My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe

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Nahbooo [#3]

I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

Some teams just have players that have no holes in their game, if you know what I mean hehe

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Faraday [#26]

That crazy, can you show where I said the streamers were in the wrong?
or for that matter where I said toast is wrong for making a meme team?

Because you must just have missed this line I'll repeat for you

My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe My point is about DSG toast pretending that he isn't just doing it for himself is cringe

i just replied to the 5 lines you wrote. Also by your logic even the big orgs are cringe for competing because they have their interests in mind. the sponsors are cringe because they are giving money for marketing. Its you who is cringe for crying for such non issue. He himself admitted this is good marketing for his team and himself apart from trying to help GC gain more traction(which it did btw?)

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if you're reading his intentions solely off his tweets, then it may seem that he's always on a high horse.
but watch his stream and you'll find out he said multiple times how the viewership benefits him, and even boasts about how he's doing nothing and getting views (meanwhile the girls are the ones doing the work). i dont think he's pretending to do anything, just doing what he thinks is fun and can get views (aka the job of a content creator)

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Facts

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Aint reading allat

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Faraday [#23]

Imagine getting this mad over fucking game changers thread

Bro just dont open it like most of us. Its not worth getting upset over

Im not mad at all. I literally could not care less about game changers.

Gave you advice on how to handle your anger towards toast when it’s just a content thing for him and there is no point getting worked up over game changers of all things. The level of play is worse than ascendant ranked.

Just chill out and calma, it’s not that serious. Try choco chip ice cream 😋

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VLR user discovers businesses

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damn can we like kill this thread they literally alr lost

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He can do whatever tf he wants lmao
If u aren't gonna fund his team, u don't get to tell him who he should pickup

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I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

shhhhh

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ok global

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You are more of a cringe person than having a prank channel in 2023

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Wow so soft

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Toast himself will more than likely tell you everything he does is self serving to an extent. To use that in order to claim he doesn't care about the GC scene is idiotic to say the least. Not to mention, while a toast team in GC would likely bump viewers slightly just because of his viewers supporting his venture, it wouldn't have the same effect as 4 well known streamers being thrown into an open tournament where all 5 of their viewers are supporting their experiment.

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ok global

I know a sen flair isn't saying that

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do you have any clue how many more people know that GC exists now, and even if he got a team of "pros" that make it further that wouldnt have gotten that same level of viewership as this team of kyedae, jodi, sydeon, tup, tenzin did
for ex. valkyrae who plays valorant all the time didnt even know something like GC existed in this game

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do you have any clue how many more people know that GC exists now, and even if he got a team of "pros" that make it further that wouldnt have gotten that same level of viewership as this team of kyedae, jodi, sydeon, tup, tenzin did
for ex. valkyrae who plays valorant all the time didnt even know something like GC existed in this game

you're lying

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No wonder OCE orgs can't pay their players, don't even know B of Business

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Who do you think gain more advertising, toast a well known streamer across the world or a regional obscure open qualifier? It seems by your post that you are just jealous of what he did.

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Faraday [#41]

crazy how illiterate you are, can you show where I said he can't make a meme team if he wants?

Or are you just too much of a dick rider to be able to discuss criticism of him

oh my god you are so insufferable.
The so called "criticism" you speak of is the projection of your unhappiness onto others

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oh my god you are so insufferable.
The so called "criticism" you speak of is the projection of your unhappiness onto others

I criticise your streamer so I must be a unhappy person?
Give me literally any kind of reason for your disagreement instead of just making random comments about how my personal life is

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Who do you think gain more advertising, toast a well known streamer across the world or a regional obscure open qualifier? It seems by your post that you are just jealous of what he did.

Never heard of him before this 'regional obscure open qualifier' so clearly it is giving him more clout

Why would I be jealous of someone for doing something bad? I don't understand friend

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No wonder OCE orgs can't pay their players, don't even know B of Business

I mean yeah, he's a great business man, convinced people that he actually cares for GC scene and not just business

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Bro said gee wiz 💀

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https://www.vlr.gg/193521/aussies-in-vlr

I'm gonna put this here...

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Faraday [#50]

Never heard of him before this 'regional obscure open qualifier' so clearly it is giving him more clout

Why would I be jealous of someone for doing something bad? I don't understand friend

Stop the cap lil bro no way you didn't hear about him during the Among Us hype and he even played with Tarik the Fortnite tournament hosted by Ludwig and continues to play Valo with him

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https://www.vlr.gg/193521/aussies-in-vlr

I'm gonna put this here...

do you think I'm Australian?
actual self report

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Stop the cap lil bro no way you didn't hear about him during the Among Us hype and he even played with Tarik the Fortnite tournament hosted by Ludwig and continues to play Valo with him

I'm a bit older then you might be brother

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I'm a bit older then you might be brother

doesn't show in your clueless issues with someone who doesn't know you

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I am proud of them, because they are a fair team

Not like...

Real at least toast has some standards. If he wanted to win we all know what kind of players he would sign.

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do you think I'm Australian?
actual self report

cry is free

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I criticise your streamer so I must be a unhappy person?
Give me literally any kind of reason for your disagreement instead of just making random comments about how my personal life is

Funny how literally noone agrees with you, maybe the whole world is crazy

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biggest nothing burger ever

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Funny how literally noone agrees with you, maybe the whole world is crazy

People didn't disagree with slavery when it was commonplace either, I don't look at what societies opinions on something to decide whats right and wrong

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do you think I'm Australian?
actual self report

My fellow vlr fan. What’s actually irking you? Why does Toasts actions trigger you? We all know everything we do, it’s all for personal gain. Why can’t he?

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My fellow vlr fan. What’s actually irking you? Why does Toasts actions trigger you? We all know everything we do, it’s all for personal gain. Why can’t he?

I think it is in bad taste for someone to pretend they do it for non personal gain, when it is infact for personal gain.

I have no problem with doing something for personal gain and I don't think toast needed to write on his forehead 'I AM DOING THIS FOR MYSELF' or anything
but largely on twitter he did things like asking for recommendation for players to him saying his team actually really cares about winning and isn't just a stream team leads people to believe he isn't doing it out of self interest

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I think it is in bad taste for someone to pretend they do it for non personal gain, when it is infact for personal gain.

I have no problem with doing something for personal gain and I don't think toast needed to write on his forehead 'I AM DOING THIS FOR MYSELF' or anything
but largely on twitter he did things like asking for recommendation for players to him saying his team actually really cares about winning and isn't just a stream team leads people to believe he isn't doing it out of self interest

In short, don't let it bother you my fellow NZer. If you want to read what I post then go ahead but just leave it.

Self interest or not, does it really matter? My question to you is why do you let it bother you that you need to post about it?

He said it himself, there was not enough time and investment is too much for a short turnaround, Toast will probably make another roster after NA Quals are done and what? Are we going to be mad again that he may not have chosen the right people? He has intentions in becoming a gaming org. He is trialing different ways to do things, so what? What have you lost with him doing this?

You are saying Toast is getting clout from doing this? So what? The whole stream team and coach got into it knowing what it will do to their brand. Toast himself has said that he wants to make streaming a possibility for everyone and anyone. You know how much recognition Ruin and Ttupperware has gotten recently? It's also for their careers as content creators and streamers.

Whether if you like how the business is dealt with or not, it still brought attention to the scene 1 fan at a time. The more viewers GC gets, means more money, more money means more opportunities, more opportunities means a bigger scene.