"Furthermore, Sinatraa's initial commitment to provide audio and video clips of the referenced incident was never fulfilled"
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Sinatraa is done
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somedudefalling [#2]"the investigation did not come to a definitive conclusion on the underlying allegations"
Hey! Thanks for sharing. I’m not a native English speaker.
What does “I am fully cooperating with the investigations and providing the full audio and video clips Cleo referenced in her post.” mean?
Kiss-Shot [#3]Hey! Thanks for sharing. I’m not a native English speaker.
What does “I am fully cooperating with the investigations and providing the full audio and video clips Cleo referenced in her post.” mean?
Your litteral point is he's "done" sinatra could easily come back rn and stream every day and avg 5k viewers. him being "Done" would be him being proven guilty and being locked up or banned off twitch.
somedudefalling [#2]"the investigation did not come to a definitive conclusion on the underlying allegations"
because Sinatraa did not provide evidence (or provided false statement).
You can't come to a definitive conclusion when Jay don't talk (or lie) during investigation.
scumbag move by him, but probably what his lawyer taught him and is the right move (for him)
GetsystheGr8 [#6]Or maybe he doesn't actually have the video cuz normal people delete inappropriate videos of their past partners...
Then why did he say that he would give Riot the full audio clip?
Kumin04 [#8]Then why did he say that he would give Riot the full audio clip?
Cuz maybe he thought Cleo would share the full video... since she has said she didn't want to put the full sound clip
GetsystheGr8 [#9]Cuz maybe he thought Cleo would share the full video... since she has said she didn't want to put the full sound clip
He legit said in his first twitlonger that he would be providing the full audio clip.
Kumin04 [#10]He legit said in his first twitlonger that he would be providing the full audio clip.
did you even bother reading his response?
5ire [#11]did you even bother reading his response?
Thanks read it now. Glad he is trying to become a better person and reflect on himself.
I used to watch him because of his gameplay, but his character always seemed off. I thought I missed him but after Riot's statement, I will try not to watch him. We are being so forgetful, these allegations are very serious and his behavior is so immature and unpleasant. I think people should avoid his stream and never let him be that popular ever again.
feeks [#13]I used to watch him because of his gameplay, but his character always seemed off. I thought I missed him but after Riot's statement, I will try not to watch him. We are being so forgetful, these allegations are very serious and his behavior is so immature and unpleasant. I think people should avoid his stream and never let him be that popular ever again.
look I think we can have different opinions on how we feel about his behavior and I think that's fine, but remember these are allegations and now that it's in law enforcement's hands we should wait for their decision after the investigation is over. (just my opinion you don't have to agree)
It reminds me of when I was a kid when I tried to twist the truth to reduce damage. I remember when some classmates were bullying me and I just started saying a bunch of nonsense to keep them away, I think he didn't have the full audio and video clip from the start, he just rushed it and said he had them to reduce damage...
feeks [#13]I used to watch him because of his gameplay, but his character always seemed off. I thought I missed him but after Riot's statement, I will try not to watch him. We are being so forgetful, these allegations are very serious and his behavior is so immature and unpleasant. I think people should avoid his stream and never let him be that popular ever again.
sad but I almost guarentee that he will gain some new audience of 'edgy' kids (which is pretty much a lot of ppl who play games nowadays) after this incident, and my guess he will be even more popular than before
feeks [#13]I used to watch him because of his gameplay, but his character always seemed off. I thought I missed him but after Riot's statement, I will try not to watch him. We are being so forgetful, these allegations are very serious and his behavior is so immature and unpleasant. I think people should avoid his stream and never let him be that popular ever again.
turkish flag being based and serious for once
LMFAO how
5ire [#14]look I think we can have different opinions on how we feel about his behavior and I think that's fine, but remember these are allegations and now that it's in law enforcement's hands we should wait for their decision after the investigation is over. (just my opinion you don't have to agree)
You should absolutely not wait on “law enforcement’s” decision on the matter. God fucking knows that American law enforcement is in NO position to tell you the proper way to feel. Also, the justice system makes rulings from an emotionless, legalistic standpoint. Nobody (except Sinatraa and Cleo) can tell you what happened. I would recommend that you go ahead and form your opinion (like racism, being “unbiased” always favors the oppressor). Then, keep your opinion respectful and largely to yourself, because it is just an opinion after all.
WitLitning [#19]You should absolutely not wait on “law enforcement’s” decision on the matter. God fucking knows that American law enforcement is in NO position to tell you the proper way to feel. Also, the justice system makes rulings from an emotionless, legalistic standpoint. Nobody (except Sinatraa and Cleo) can tell you what happened. I would recommend that you go ahead and form your opinion (like racism, being “unbiased” always favors the oppressor). Then, keep your opinion respectful and largely to yourself, because it is just an opinion after all.
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feeks [#13]I used to watch him because of his gameplay, but his character always seemed off. I thought I missed him but after Riot's statement, I will try not to watch him. We are being so forgetful, these allegations are very serious and his behavior is so immature and unpleasant. I think people should avoid his stream and never let him be that popular ever again.
i always disliked sinatraa from overwatch because he was pretty toxic but he recently turned a new leaf after winning with SF Shock. sad to see him go on this route
feeks [#23]not all of us are kids bro
that's true but toxicity and fanaticism isn't limited to kids bro
turkey [#21]sinatraa is a terrible person for what he did but i don’t think it’s bad to still enjoy his content. he isn’t a terrible streamer and he’s very enjoyable to watch so i’ll just try not to let this get in the way bc it has nothing to do with his gaming
would you watch a streamer who was the primary suspect for murdering his gf? or a streamer whose gf was bruised and accused him of beating her? or would you try to ignore those things, too?
notice i didn’t say “found guilty of murdering” or “proven to be a domestic abuser.” before somebody complains “these aren’t the same,” I tried to keep the situations as equal as possible
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