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CS is killing itself

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#1
Mjtchell

CSGO release: 2012
DOTA release: 2003

Valorant release: 2020 (8 years after CS)
League of Legends release: 2009 (6 years after DOTA)

CS2 release: 2023 or 2024 (3-4 years after Valorant)
DOTA2 release: 2013 (4 years after League)

I feel like if Valve did it once already and it didn't work why would they do it again.
I love CS, but the pattern is repeating itself and it sorta hurts for my own nastalgia.
Life moves on though

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acels2
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cs_1_zywoo_valorant_0_zywoo
therefore cs>>>>>>>>>>valulrant

#4
Luck_
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zyabetes is nothing compared to jamppi lil bro
bro think hamburger buff exists

#50
stewie2k
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zyabetes is a crazy name ☠️

#31
Kiko
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babybay better

#36
Itsover
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Skrossi clears

#3
avepalto
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i don't think it's as simple as just some number patterns lmao

#17
Mjtchell
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Its not, it's also the companies, how they treat the community, how they respond to game feedback.

#48
eLBy
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someone say s1mple?

#5
lossnx
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I mean, CSGO just broke new records a few days ago
Last year they had one major with almost 2.5 million viewers.

#8
Mjtchell
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They broke their own records
Records that Valorant is already doing 5x's over

#10
lossnx
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hahahahahahahaha nice try, if I ask for sources you will send me one trash source, right?

#11
zeldrols
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https://tracker.gg/valorant/population

#13
Mjtchell
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LMAOOOOO I dont even need to
https://www.statista.com/statistics/808630/csgo-number-players-steam/
Here's CS's numbers

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gamr
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Are you dumb? Tracker shows total unique players in a single day. Statista shows peak player count at a single point in time?

edit: and just to be clear, i couldnt care less if you wanted to try to dunk on csgo and say valorant is better or whatever, but it's idiotic to misconstrue statistics and make them appear as anything else than what they actually are just to favor your argument.

this is a better comparison as they are using the same statistic

https://activeplayer.io/valorant/
https://activeplayer.io/counter-strike-global-offensive/

#26
vasswood
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0/8 bait or hard cope thread lol. guy is losing hair over the fact that CS2 will bring a lot of valorant players and pros over

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gamr
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I doubt that it will, the game mechanics are not changing so they don’t stand a chance. But it should bring a lot more new players if Valve decides to make some good fucking changes for once

#39
Phamous
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Why would players move from a structured system to a very non-structured system. There’s a built in tournament mode that can lead to Pro play lol.

Idk. I sometimes wonder about fangirls. Too much emotion not enough logic.

#41
Moiraine
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There is 0 chance of that happening
The best of the best valorant pro's could never ever in a million years cut it in csgo, why would they leave valorant for basically the same game ?

Idk why people think this way. the reason why valorant is so much more popular is because the gun mechanics are so much easier. It's literally made with a very very low skill floor (and skill ceiling) specifically to appeal the masses.

CS is too hard, they ain't leaving. Imagine leaving to CS where a team with s1mple, electronic and b1t has to sweat to win matches. Val pros would just get embarrassed. it's not happening, they're different games, leave it.

#44
Skywarp
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lmao cs meat riders always coping about having ‘higher gun mechanics’. hooxi literally just won katowice, any player above ascendant has better mechanics than him

#29
kudos
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Mmm penis

#30
gamr
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no i dont, and i dont get what you mean either

#34
kudos
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Penis does a body good!

#35
gamr
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Statista is the name of the website you twat. How are you so incapable of reading the message I’m replying to?

#32
hekzy
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Dude if you actually scrolled down a bit you'd see that CSGO averages 2.5m players per day while Valo 1.2m. you'd also see that CSGO has 36m active users while Valo has 22m. The top table is probably bugged (it has a connotation of "monthly players ranges from -29000000 to 37000000")

#43
HLTV_BIGGEST_FAN
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I don't trust activeplayer.io, cuz the numbers on cs are very low there
https://steamcharts.com/app/730
here is the real player count of cs

and we dont know about valorant player count because it ain't public

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gamr
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?? You’re comparing different statistics? Csgo only tracks concurrent player counts

#19
acels2
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BRO THIS IS NOT CONCURRENT PLAYERS LMFAO 😹😹😹😹

#24
I_SELL_ORGANS
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this is NOT concurrent players !!

#6
eeeeeeeee
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must be bait or braindead

#7
cobalt21312
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i dont think cs2 is gonna kill valorant but wtf r you saying here

#9
Mjtchell
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CS is going to ruin itself like Dota did

#12
Granite
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I agree @mjtchell, cs2 might be hype in the first 6 months, but i think it will also die out

#15
hansk588
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i play league and dota and love CS and Valorant GIGACHAD

#18
gamr
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based

#22
Mjtchell
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Most people do

#20
NG1nS
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I love CS

🤺🤺

#21
TS_ChedZ
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CS2 is NOT CS:GO2

#23
Mjtchell
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When did I say it was?

#25
I_SELL_ORGANS
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i don't think dota ruined itself, the game itself (balancing, heroes, meta) is amazing. it just doesn't have the marketing among public like league has, and the entry barrier to play the game is pretty high, there's a lot of stuff to learn at first, unlike league which has a more streamlined experience and is easier on newbies

that being said, i've seen a players moving from league to dota, and never going back :D
also, dota allstars was a mod, not a valve launch

#28
jkjkjk
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What does DotA All Stars (the community map created 2003 as Warcraft III mod) has to do with Valve? Valve only got rights for DotA starting with DotA2.

Also, why didn't you include the first Counter-Strike game, if you're using the first DotA as reference? (1.0 released in 2000) or maybe Counter-Strike 1.5 when Valve actually started supporting it with $$

Your numbers make no sense. I don't think you even know what you want to say or what you're talking about.

#33
swayway
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Cs sadly owns valorant

#40
Phamous
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Not in current viewership and engagement we know that much lol. But I mean… CS is a great esport just a little boring rn. It’s pretty much Europe v Europe w/ a dash of NA & Brazil teams.

#42
zeldrols
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Speaking facts

#47
JokesOver
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Downvoted for speaking facts lol

#37
Pink_Maldito
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It's just a graphic update. Nothing will change for both games.

#45
reycac
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128 tick servers and improved matchmaking as well

#46
flames-leleo
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Is that all after all these years?

#51
reycac
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thats only what has been leaked

#38
cyclone221
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Valorant, CSGO, and League are the bestest I love them all.

#49
lilcheese
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What a dumb comparison

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